Is gaming really dying?

[Monster-64]

This is a common thing said among retro/old school gamers, looking to get thumbs up/likes/upvotes for being the "respctable gamer".They often bitch about modern games being the cancer to gaming, even though the only titles you actually hear some of them say or talk about is CoD or Battlefield.

To my perspective of these types of people, I think they're just people who can't let go of their past, and let their nostalgia get in the way of enjoying great modern games. The only things I have to complain about for modern day games are the on-rail level designs, that lack exploration.

[Dean]

I think a lot of retro enthusiasts are partially blinded by how great some retro titles are. They seem to forget that retro systems have just as many (probably more) shit games as modern consoles.

Gaming is far from dying. Just skimming over my Xbox 360 and PS3 games, there are a ton of awesome titles in their.

[FlockMastaBack]

I think it peaked a while ago, but it's still far from dying; in fact, from a technical standpoint, I'd say the industry's thriving now more than ever.

[DoctorStrongbad]

Gaming has been going strong since the 80's , and will not be dying anytime soon.

[orangebomb]

At 6/16/14 12:52 PM, Dean wrote: I think a lot of retro enthusiasts are partially blinded by how great some retro titles are. They seem to forget that retro systems have just as many (probably more) shit games as modern consoles.

That's exactly what I've been saying all this time, there were plenty of (if not more) bad games then there are now, and it didn't help that it was literately the Wild West when it came to game development. For every EA, Nintendo or Capcom, there were about 5 or 10 other companies that made shitty games that flooded the market during the 80's and 90's, back when gaming was mostly a cottage industry with limited interest.

Gaming is far from dying. Just skimming over my Xbox 360 and PS3 games, there are a ton of awesome titles in their.

I wouldn't consider a multi-billion dollar industry with many millions of fans to be dying. It seems like the cynicism is largely misplaced.

[SmashLuigiFan1]

No, gaming is not dying. Retro gaming is definitely dying, even if it is slowly.

[FlockMastaBack]

At 6/16/14 04:33 PM, AgentSmit wrote: Because retro gamers have been around since the birth of gaming, when arcades still existed. You COD kids are a disgrace to gaming.

Did you read the thread, or just skim through it? He said that people who scapegoat modern games only consistently cite a few titles out of thousands of games produced over the past decade. I prefer older games to newer ones, but jesus christ dude.

Not to mention there's still developers out there that make great titles like Atlus, some even sticking to old-school-styled games like Wayforward & Treasure (although Treasure's only developed one new title since the beginning of the decade and it's JP-only :ccc)

[Crink]

gaming feels dead to me. there's only one game that is coming out that i know will be worth the money and that's the witcher 3. it will be the flower growing from a pot of a dirt

almost every game i've purchased recently has been a hollow experience. they don't feel like any passion was put into them and they were thrown together to extract cash from people

i dunno, i guess it's just me being miserable. everything seems shit

[Chdonga]

Not at all. The fact that retro gamers only complain about CoD and Battlefield just proves they're not looking very hard for good games to play. Nostalgia goggles also harm people's judgment.

[Titee]

No it isn't. it's fine. Modern console shit might be dead, but PC gaming will live on.

[Indeks]

no gaming is just in a nut shell

[darkjam]

Nowhere near, games are just getting better and better per year. Sure the old games are great, but they aren't as many epics or just amazing games in the early gens compared to now. Back then, pac man must have been revolutionary, and while I still love it, it's not exactly the holy grail of games as I've seen people post on various others forums. The early gens were more of an experimental time for games, where devs were learning what makes a good game, and that it's not just a toy, Capcom and Nintendo seemed to be the only two to understand this when the NES was the latest console. If you keep looking through the generations, story telling gets better and better. The NES had Metroid, the SNES had A Link to The Past, the PS1 had Final Fantasy 7, the PS2 had Shadow of the Colossus, and then they're games that are considered art. Okami and Shadow of The Colossus being the ones most mentioned. I may be sounding biased towards the later gens, and don't get me wrong, I've probably put millions of hours in the classics such as Mega Man, Metroid, Mario, Ninja Gaiden, and Sonic, but it's just that as the generations continued to go on, the devs began to tell more complex stories other than "save the world" they strayed from that and did more complex things. Games like Metal Gear Solid 1-4, Red Dead Redemption, The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, The Last of Us and Bioshock are all great examples of how gaming has evolved to become a more emotional experience, even making us cry for a fake person, you just didn't see that sort of thing in the earlier generations.
TL;DR Games have evolved to become a more emotional experience.

[Viper]

Dude people have been saying shit like this for years. even going back to the 80s. And gaming is still here and will mostly likely still be here for years and years into the future.

[mysticvortex13]

yes, its dying, but not because the games themselves are bad. instead, the consoles are the problem. fewer and fewer consoles keep in the game with each passing generation, and thus less and less incentive for the console makers to care about what features they experiment with, as its either their way or the highway..

the wii. gbasp, and ds started this downward spiral with their awkward controls and compatibility issues, next came the ps3, 4, and vita, which also had compatibility issues, then the xbox one came, with its rumored secondhand user lockouts..

wii u, kinect, ps move.. all these things suck terribly.. the power glove failed for a reason, and yet these dingdongs are still getting a marketing success out of it..

there are essential qualities that are imperative for a system to be good. in order to raise morale, i am offering prizes to the most deserving consoles.. the rules that will govern what i like to call "the mv13 team spirit award" are these:

first thing, a game system must be fully backward compatible with all its previous gen version games, as well as its accessories such as controllers, memory cards, and so on, if such things exist for said previous gen version.. or be shot.

secondly, a game system must not use motion sensor controls as its primary or mandatory control type... or be shot.

thirdly, people who buy their stuff used must be able to use the game system to the fullest extent of its potential... or it will be shot.

fourth off, a game system's graphical style must not look overly babyish. for example, 3ds fails at this.. and thus will be shot.

finally, any game system that breaks any rules i have yet to formulate will.. yes, you guessed it, be shot.

return to whatever it was you were doing now.. as you all know i'm a very generous person and am likely to start handing out "prizes" right away.. so go on, shoo, be off with you, chopchop..

[kmau]

At 6/17/14 04:16 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote: secondly, a game system must not use motion sensor controls as its primary or mandatory control type... or be shot.

fourth off, a game system's graphical style must not look overly babyish. for example, 3ds fails at this.. and thus will be shot.

Wow why aren't you a business advisor for the top companies in the industry yet?

[sharpnova]

Video games have been improving steadily.

The industry has been growing steadily.

People's expectations have been managed increasingly shittily.

Just because games aren't improving by the leaps and bounds they used to be improving by doesn't mean they aren't improving.

Most of people's negativity stems from nostalgia-induced blindness.

I won't discuss the matter further.

[mysticvortex13]

At 6/17/14 04:34 PM, kmau wrote:

Wow why aren't you a business advisor for the top companies in the industry yet?

you serious? or was that some kind of sarcastic remark? i really cant tell...

[Monster-64]

At 6/18/14 05:30 PM, mysticvortex13 wrote:

At 6/17/14 04:34 PM, kmau wrote:

Wow why aren't you a business advisor for the top companies in the industry yet?

you serious? or was that some kind of sarcastic remark? i really cant tell...

Looks like sarcasm with a hint of honesty.

[WrightOnTarget]

At 6/17/14 01:04 PM, darkjam wrote: Games like Metal Gear Solid 1-4,

>Limiting yourself to 1-4

Big Boss games are the best games.

[sweet21]

I seem to notice alot of retro gamers cant make the transition from 2D to 3D. They often times have trouble using two analog sticks and complain about the controls alot.

[TheMajormel]

i honestly think game journalism is the real cancer compared to COD or Battlefield

[Monster-64]

At 6/18/14 09:12 PM, sweet21 wrote: I seem to notice alot of retro gamers cant make the transition from 2D to 3D. They often times have trouble using two analog sticks and complain about the controls alot.

Ha, I wish I knew any retro gamers to mock like that.

[SneakyGameBoy]

I see gaming as a unbreakable thing. It's fun only if you make it fun.

[argile]

At 6/18/14 09:12 PM, sweet21 wrote: I seem to notice alot of retro gamers cant make the transition from 2D to 3D. They often times have trouble using two analog sticks and complain about the controls alot.

I can see how difficult it is for them to master them, Sonic's Lost world was a little fast to handle.

[elitegamer11]

dieing? its only getting better and better!

[cheezz]

Video games don't captivate me like they use to. When I was growing up video games use to offer innovation and new experiences all the time, I went from SNES and Genesis, to N64 and Playstation, to the PS2 and Xbox. Things back then were rapidly changing, I think the problem nowadays stems from gaming technology reaching its limits. Graphics on newer systems don't have that 'awe' factor like old systems had back when the old systems were new, you hardly encounter new kinds of gameplay, and higher costs means it's riskier for companies to try new ideas. I hate to say it, video games are becoming homogeneous, I want new experiences and all I get is last years game with some minor improvements.

[Ragnarokia]

consoles are dying if they keep to their current trend of becoming increasingly worthless. I loved consoles in the past, but the last generation didn't really do much other than "look better graphics so give us loads of money" and the current generation is "look they apparently have a very little bit better graphics that isn't really possible to tell ,and the gameplay is actually kind of worse as we fuck up the basics, give us even more money"

They won't be able to keep to that for very long before even the most obsessed fanboys stop paying for more of the same...well many still will...but not enough to keep funding it further.

[Jackho]

The triple A industry is going down the shitter fast. Watch Dogs was yet another disappointment that managed to pre-order it's tickets for the hype train on it's way to profit station, but sooner or later that hype train's gonna run out of coal and people start to wonder why the fuck a "modern" locomotive still relies on coal anyway.

I used to think indie games would be the savior but that industry is getting filled up faster than my sweaty pores. I'm expecting at least a minor crash in the near future, then most likely the second coming of nintendo will clash with sega's risen corpse in the war that tears the world apart. The end is Nye.

[Luciuspain]

Well as a designer its just big studios are taking less and less risks to do something innovative. Banking on the same model over and over again to real in the money. We have indies to make the oddball things but even that area is beginning to become saturated. I like tonnes of modern games but 2 player golden axe is special to me. I wont ever bash a new title if its worth playing I play everything but if its unoriginal and bland. Example the new wolfenstein thought it was fantastic explosions fast tight controls it didnt and did take itself seriously. There are still a lot of people producing new things its just people bitching because it wasnt a part of there precious childhood. It would be nice to see larger companies taking more risks with the extra horsepower its not for 1080 p and 60 fps its so designers can do wacky things players have not seen before.

Anyways theres my piece on the topic.

[darkjam]

At 6/18/14 08:37 PM, protoAuthor wrote: >Limiting yourself to 1-4

Big Boss games are the best games.

Metal Gear Solid 3, you know the one with Big Boss? Ring a bell?