God is just a projection?

[PyroGreg]

This argument assumes God is real.

If a programmer were to create a simulation of life, and have a "heaven" in the program where "people" who die go to and get to be with him, the programer cannot physically bring these programmed people into his world, instead he has to program himself into the simulation as the god.

Now let's apply that to our God. He exists outside of the universe and time. He created the universe and time, but he exists outside it. When we die, we go to heaven to be with him, but what if this God in heaven, is just a projection of the real god. God's way of letting himself exist in our universe, but it technically isn't him?

[GrizzlyOne]

this is like, a really old theory.

[PyroGreg]

At 6/12/14 09:12 AM, GrizzlyOne wrote: this is like, a really old theory.

Really? I tried searching it up but couldn't find anything. But this theory does give rise to other old theories, such as, God may not be the only of his kind.

[NeonSpider]

Avatar.

... Actually I thought this thread was gonna go in a completely other direction. Namely...

That when people assign attributes to God they're really just self-projecting. Because you notice how whatever God wants you to do magically correlates with whatever the speaker wants you to do? And how whatever God thinks is magically whatever the speaker thinks? And how you can take two such speakers and their Gods will conflict? Amazing isn't it!

[logwood]

Some people take the Religious view, others take the Scientific perspective. I take both. I believe in evolution and the Big Bang Theory, But I know that God caused the explosion and had Fish grow legs. But now, he guards the gates of Heaven and watches over the Earth.

[PyroGreg]

At 6/12/14 09:19 AM, WahyahRanger wrote: I don't think God would have much of a say in our everyday lives, we're just like his stupid ant farm.

Agreed. He can influence the universe, but he can't truly exist inside it, instead he creates an entity to act as him.

[NGPulp]

How does he get us to be in his physical plane, you ask?

Why, he presses the "PRINT" button of course!

I apologize.

[Chronamut]

I wrote an article on this.. for anyone that's interested to read it:

http://pastebin.com/Tyaa5cpC

[WrightOnTarget]

I am immensely frustrated by the question format of the title.

[Urban-Champion]

At 6/12/14 09:06 AM, PyroGreg wrote: If a programmer were to create a simulation of life, and have a "heaven" in the program where "people" who die go to and get to be with him, the programer cannot physically bring these programmed people into his world, instead he has to program himself into the simulation as the god.

worst game ever -50/10

[WrightOnTarget]

At 6/12/14 04:49 PM, Urban-Champion wrote:
worst game ever -50/10

But somehow you gave it a 7 star rating.

[Urban-Champion]

At 6/12/14 04:52 PM, protoAuthor wrote:

At 6/12/14 04:49 PM, Urban-Champion wrote:
worst game ever -50/10

But somehow you gave it a 7 star rating.

out of a million times infinity stars

[SG3]

At 6/12/14 09:06 AM, PyroGreg wrote: This argument assumes God is real.

If a programmer were to create a simulation of life, and have a "heaven" in the program where "people" who die go to and get to be with him, the programer cannot physically bring these programmed people into his world, instead he has to program himself into the simulation as the god.

Did you not watch Tron: Legacy? We can totally bring programs into our world. All we need is an Encom laser.

Now let's apply that to our God. He exists outside of the universe and time. He created the universe and time, but he exists outside it. When we die, we go to heaven to be with him, but what if this God in heaven, is just a projection of the real god. God's way of letting himself exist in our universe, but it technically isn't him?

Well, If you're defining God as an omnipotent being then, by definition, he can exist both outside the universe and within it. That's kind of the problem with God; he can break pretty much any rule you can associate with him. Plus, who's to say Heaven isn't outside the universe too? I mean it's supposedly this metaphysical place and it's not like you'd find it in outer space or something.

Going back to the virtual reality analogy, couldn't the computer programmer create robot bodies for the simulated lifeforms once they die, so they can retain their consciousness while still experiencing the world outside the simulation? In the same way, couldn't God just transfer our "souls" or whatever outside the universe? Also, I don't know why everyone seems to equate an extra-dimensional creator of this universe with all loving, all powerful cosmic entity. Aren't the two mutually exclusive? Just because the programmer created the system, doesn't mean he has the ability to do anything within it. It could be that he created it by accident, or the simulation is too delicate to be modified even further. But then that's another philosophical can of worms.

FLYNN!