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At 6/12/14 07:02 AM, Piggler wrote:

Or we could have another season of re-re-hashed arguments which never lead to any form of reconciliation or enhanced moral clarity at the end and simply repeat ad infinitum. But, I mean, if I wanted to see that, I'd just watch pretty much any show on Oxygen.

Some people bare in mind are just too stubborn to move on.

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Probably Hunger for different things. Food, a Girlfriend, a cat, a Grandma, a non-insane hunting relative. Its not greed, it's just I need a family member besides my parents that doesn't hunt and fish and have kids just to fill up their lives.

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Time always feel as though it's slipping through my fingers, yet here I am just sort killing time as I am inhabiting on things that arn't really that important which cloud my own mind in the sense that it feels like i'm being to overly stimulated and low on blood sugar. It's hard to pull me off that subject until I realise how stupid it is at the very end that there was no point to it at all.
I got to get off the computer or at least be more occupied with stuff that is more important.

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At 6/12/14 05:40 AM, 4cat wrote: Let's examine this section of your post. It's very important.

At 6/10/14 05:59 AM, Stereocrisis wrote: I could talk forever about personal injustices.. What would it matter? Look who I'm spilling my guts to! Just more people, with more ignorant things to say about the difficulties in my life.

You make a thread (as in, a topic open for discussion with, you know, other people). In the thread you discuss your feelings and some of your problems. Then you specifically belittle the audience

Correction. I'm belittling people like you. The other members who know they don't personal act like the ones I have judged will know I'm not talking about them. Or, if they feel guilty about the things I've said, which clearly you do, they will be offended. And to tell you the truth, I don't care if I offended you. You're PRECISELY one of the ones my comment was directed at. You're one of the ones who I expected to come in here and be ignorant. And I was right.

calling them ignorant

Calling YOU ignorant. Not them. Some people actually responded here with an ounce of decency. Until you can do the same, yes, I was calling YOU ignorant.

and saying they don't understand the problems in your life (as if anyone desperately wants to hear about your struggles to begin with).

Exactly my point. Some people have listened, and I have talked to them in PM's. Not you though. Exactly for the reason you mentioned. You don't care, or want to hear about my struggles. Not that I automatically assume everyone should, but I know some people will, and those become people I can connect with. You on the other hand don't deserve a proper introduction to me, since you seem to always treat me like a twat. I'll ACT like a twat. No fucking way you're getting my good side chump. You've been nothing but a douchebag towards me. The sad part is that this is all STILL because I said something to ZACHARY, not even YOU, like a fucking year ago. And since then you've all stalked my threads. Yes. I know YOU don't want to hear about it. Believe it or not though, it's not hard to make friends with me.

Step 1: Stop being a dick every time I say something.
Step 2: I stop treating you like a dick.

If you already have a low opinion of us

...of you.

then why are you sharing these details?

I'm sharing them with people who aren't you 4Cat.

Why should anyone bother posting?

Why should YOU bother posting? I read all the other responses of people who answered the "most they've ever felt" question I imposed. Those responses were appreciated, and not overlooked.

You've already made up your mind.

About you, yes.

We're just supposed to sit here in awe as you bestow your painful memories upon us.

Not exactly. If you're one of those people who says things to WOW people, I don't know how to explain to a person like you that not everyone says things to appear edgy and flashy. I can't be held responsible for the way you take something, so without getting to in depth, I'll say this. That's your own shit going on in your own head. Period. You attached the alternate meanings, and ulterior motives. I never once said you should all stand in awe of my life story. I did say it would be nice to get some understanding, and maybe even some well deserved sympathy. But if you can't find that within yourself 4cat, well I just can't see myself caring any time soon. You made up your mind about my true colors a long time ago. Nothing would convince you otherwise that I'm nothing but a jerk, and hey, once again, I can't see myself caring any time soon. There are people who know otherwise, for a fact, and have told me so, that I'm one of the kindest people they know. These are the people I speak to with the respect they deserve. A guy like you 4cat, who does nothing but mock me, is of course always going to see me as a guy who says fuck you towards everyone. Because I'm saying fuck you towards YOU for being a jerk with me. See how that works? Probably not...

Maybe we'll become more enlightened to your suffering, Stereocrisis.

hahahaha, I highly doubt that.

Maybe we....will back a waaaaaaaaaaay.....stay-a waaaaaaaaaay....once and for all.....

I kind of wish you would back away, and stay away once and for all. Is that a problem for you? Mr. Thread Stalker for over a year...

BTW, I'm proud of my guitar playing and vocal ability. I'm not the best, but I certainly take pride in it. That song you're mocking for has gotten me in touch with other musicians, and it's gotten me standing ovations when I play it live. It's going to take a little more then a known asshole making a backhanded remark for me to retire from performing it.

I just thought I would take it upon myself to save people

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

the trouble of actually reading your soliloquy and highlight the only portion of this thread that matters.

You highlighted the portion made specifically for people like you. I'm happy to have impressed it upon you that you're one of the ignorant ones. You are 100% right. That comment is all you should take from this "soliloquy" if you have nothing to add, or anything at all constructive to say in response.

It puts all of your posts into perspective. Cheers :)

Get killed in a car fire cunt face.

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At 6/12/14 06:44 AM, GingerGymnast wrote: I don't think you're a mental patient, and I'm not treating you like you're a retard. I think the majority of the people on here are so much in the habit of attacking one another over any small thing

This right here sums it up. The majority of the people attack each other here.

that when someone is trying to be sensitive, you read too deeply into it. I'm not looking down on you, I'm trying to be helpful and supportive.

I didn't think you were looking down on me.

A lot of people on here are being rude for the sake of being rude.

I agree.

I don't agree at all when someone says you're a shitty person. I think maybe your behaviour is shitty and unproductive, but *you* are not shitty. Behaviours change. You're alright.

Correction, my only shitty, unproductive posts and behavior is in response to those who say something rude. Other than that, people like you, hey, look at this nice conversation we're having now. You know why? Because you're not a jerk.

That being said, I think a lot of people here have an underlying message: this isn't the first time you've posted something like this and you make a habit of not taking anyone's advice.

See, a lot of people you're watching post here are people who immediately come into my threads looking for a fight. It's not that I don't take their advice. They don't HAVE advice. They're on their own shit, and have never been anything but rude towards me. There is a backstory that you are unfamiliar with. Trust me. There are people here that stick together. So, when I insult one of them, (even if it's because they have insulted me first) they all jump in and start shaking their dicks. That's not exactly a fault within me, now is it?

While I agree that Newgrounds isn't exactly the hotspot for person-to-person support systems, the people who DO give you advice are being ignored and argued with. You're telling everyone on a subtle level, "I'm a lost cause."

Not true. I'm talking to you, aren't I? Besides, this stuff bothers me, and always will. I'm not looking for a resolution here. I'm not looking for advice here. I never asked for advice. I'm just throwing shit at the wall, and seeing what sticks. If my experiences can help someone forget their own misery, or if I can make a connection with someone who understands, and has crawled through the shit I have, that's the point. That, and attempting to get you guys to also share something personally that bothers you. This thread should be a place where you can get something off your chest. The whole part I wrote about myself was just to get the ball rolling. I never asked for advice, or for people to continue talking about "my thing". Please, feel free to talk about your own things.

Stereocrisis, I think it would do you some good to challenge your own beliefs. You're telling me how it is, the way things are, and I don't think you really understand what i was trying to convey in my post. I didn't tell you the Oprah story to compare you to her. I'm saying, if someone who had it REALLY bad can make something of themselves, you can too. I'm not saying you should be exactly like Oprah, but you can be like her, in that you can turn a bad situation into something positive for you.

Well see, that's exactly what I mean. I don't want or need advice. I'm just adding what I generally feel. You guys were all supposed to do the same. Not give me advice. I don't need advice. I don't have a negative situation anymore. My father is gone. I no longer live with an alcoholic. I have long since gotten passed all that, and heard the advice of so many people before you. I've turned much of my experiences into positive outcomes. I turned lots of it into focus and inspiration for making music. I've turned much of it into appreciating life more, and the people I have in it. I turned it all into one giant reason to never want to argue with people I love, or leave angry. Trust me, you're reading all my negative past experiences for the first time. You're just now starting to come up with possible solutions, whereas I've been at work for years to turn this all upside down, and find closure, and comfort in my new life, with good friends.

The only message you should take from my current situation is that I am most time happy, and in good company. But that when these people go away, and I'm by myself, I still occasionally think of the crap I went through. It's not any harm to me. It's just thinking. And when we put the ink to paper, or in this case type it out, it looks like ranting, and negativity, and angst. But it's all really just putting things into perspective, and giving it the hindsight it deserves. It's more for myself, and not for any of you. I chose to share it anyway, but it's more than it seems. Trust me. Main message of my post: Post the most you've ever felt. The sub-message of this post was not having everyone try to figure me out. That would be nonsense. I've never even been in the same room as one of you guys or girls. I'm not expecting you to put my life on track, and I'm not expecting second rate evalutions of my "situation".

If one person can do it, ANYONE can do it. There are a LOT of stories of people who have been given terrible circumstances in life and they made something good out of it. Google Victor Frankle.

I think what I've already said sets it straight. I'm not unaware of people who make the best out of bad situations. You seem to want to convince me of something I already know, and thank you, I appreciate it, because that is good advice.. But it was something I knew, and wasn't in search of.

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do you think violence is the only way to actually change something?

because from my experience it seem that way

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At 6/12/14 03:13 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: do you think violence is the only way to actually change something?

Depending on the situation, I think it can work. I don't think it's the only way to solve something though.

because from my experience it seem that way

Well I'll tell you a story about that. There used to be this bully in high school. He picked on everyone, and one day, he got his ribs kicked in and bled and cried in front of all the people he tormented.

After that, he calmed right the fuck down, and didn't try to mess with people anymore.

My point is that it works, but it probably wasn't the only thing that could have been done about his bullying. He might have had a bad living situation at home. He was definitely taking out his anger, and acting out towards people all the time. I think he could have benefitted from a more suitable home environment, and perhaps someone to talk too about his issues.

But, the ass kicking seemed to at least help the situation for the ones he was bullying. I'll say that much.

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At 6/12/14 03:02 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: See, a lot of people you're watching post here are people who immediately come into my threads looking for a fight. It's not that I don't take their advice. They don't HAVE advice. They're on their own shit, and have never been anything but rude towards me. There is a backstory that you are unfamiliar with. Trust me. There are people here that stick together. So, when I insult one of them, (even if it's because they have insulted me first) they all jump in and start shaking their dicks. That's not exactly a fault within me, now is it?

Uh, everyone can see how hostile you actually are. I posted my first interaction with you ever here on page 2 (the review). That is just who you are, and nothing anyone says here will change that. You tend to lash out at everyone no matter how they interact wth you. I imagine you don't do that in real life, bceause if you did you would get your face stomped in. Maybe that's why you do it here instead.

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At 6/12/14 03:21 PM, Zachary wrote: Uh, everyone can see how hostile you actually are.

Of course they can see me getting hostile with you Zach. I am hostile towards you. You've stalked me for over two years, without ever having a kind word to say. I never said I can't be hostile towards idiots like you. I can get very hostile with someone who gets in my face for no reason. It's not exactly rocket science. I have a low tolerance level for people like you who needlessly fuck with others. I would never tell a GOOD or KIND person to go fuck their mother, but for you Zach, I'll proudly, confidently, and hopefully convincingly tell you to go fuck your mother. Know why? Because you give me nothing but grief.

Trust me, this little act I put on for you isn't even close to how I would treat a person who is deserving of my good side.

What is it that you don't understand? Be COOL for a change, and we could start clean slate. Continue to be a bitch, and I'm going to treat you like a bitch.

I posted my first interaction with you ever here on page 2 (the review).

Once again, at the time, I was sharing my profile with my ex wife. What you said got under her skin. Not mine. She liked my music, and that song in particular, and wanted to tell you off for your lousy review. I don't even think I was home at the time.

If you, once again, can not get over her comment, from 2 years ago, I'm going to stick by what I told you. Get a life.

That is just who you are,

Oh yeah, Mr. Never Met Me Even Once is suddenly an expert on who I "really am." You do realize how much of a tool this makes you sound like, right?

and nothing anyone says here will change that.

Oh please. This is the definition of pretentious bullshit. No, but I'm sorry. Go on. Tell me more. I can't wait to find out the next abhorrently ignorant thing that I will read...

You tend to lash out at everyone no matter how they interact wth you.

Not even true. People who interact with me, and make a solid effort to not be rude, or condescending get my good side.

I imagine you don't do that in real life, bceause if you did you would get your face stomped in.

Actually, in real life, I react the same way. If someone says something rude to me, they better have a pretty damn good apology ready, because I'd be the one doing the face stomping. And I have. I hit the gym 5 times a week, and have a workout station in my basement. Want to tell me more about how I would totally get my ass kicked? lol More ignorant bullshit form Zachy boy.

Maybe that's why you do it here instead.

Actually, I come here to upload music, and occasionally browse the forums. If I post a thread, I only know how to be real, so it's not about stupid shit. It's about my life, where it's been, where it is, and where it's going.

Now for the millionth time, could you please get the FUCK out of my face?

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I see you like Nirvana, do you like any other kinds of bands? like Pink Floyd, Jeff Buckley, My Morning Jacket, Radiohead, or Patti Smith? I've gotten feels from some songs before.

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At 6/12/14 03:59 PM, Gobblemeister wrote: Heh 5 times a week eh......

Little do you know Zachary hits the gym 7 TIMES A WEEK

Trust me I know, I spot for him, he benches like 550

551 actually... and I know 5 types of karate, 72 different submission moves, 3 ways of knocking someone unconscious without even touching them, and I know how to disembowel someone with just my pinky.

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At 6/12/14 04:32 PM, Zachary wrote:

551 actually... and I know 5 types of karate, 72 different submission moves, 3 ways of knocking someone unconscious without even touching them, and I know how to disembowel someone with just my pinky.

I can kill a man in 6 languages

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At 6/12/14 04:34 PM, Jester wrote:

At 6/12/14 04:32 PM, Zachary wrote:

551 actually... and I know 5 types of karate, 72 different submission moves, 3 ways of knocking someone unconscious without even touching them, and I know how to disembowel someone with just my pinky.

I can kill a man in 6 languages

you should earn money for the things you write

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At 6/12/14 07:02 AM, Piggler wrote: This is such a juicy installment of NGBBS. Lots of character development, a bit of filled in back story, tons of dramatic confrontation.

I concur Piggler. *offers a smile and nod*

I wonder if this will end in a neutral party giving a cathartic speech about how we could all stand to improve as human beings and shouldn't hound others for not being at the same point of their life's journey as us,

I love that you said this. Absolutely, this is were most ignorance and judgment comes from.

They think, "Not yet at the same point in the journey as me? Well then, they must be somehow wrong. I have an opinion about that!"

I am impressed that you know this. Most people do everything they can to pretend that what you just said isn't the way it really works, when it totally is.

because in reality we should all be working together to enrich each others' lives by offering compassionate support and thus helping to fill our normally insignificant lives with a little more fellowship and meaning under the guise of a forum on an old forgotten website for nerds. Then they'd finish with something like, "Life is hard enough, so why not make it easier for each other if we have the chance?"

hahahaha, you're alright Piggler. I've always regarded you as one of the website more sane and rational members, regardless of whatever opinion you might have of me. I see you as generally on point with what's going on. You, believe it or not, are one of the ones that breathe life and character into this place. A lot of other people are arrogant, or insulting, but I've never seen you do it. Even though I have done it, it doesn't mean I don't respect those who keep their cool.

Or we could have another season of re-re-hashed arguments which never lead to any form of reconciliation or enhanced moral clarity at the end and simply repeat ad infinitum. But, I mean, if I wanted to see that, I'd just watch pretty much any show on Oxygen.

lol, see Zachary? This is a good post. It's non-confrontational with anyone in particular, and it's honest. Piggler has made sense of what I have been getting at all along with my rebuttals. That message being, arguing is stupid, I'd rather not fight... but if I'm going to be made to fight, you can be sure I will have some colorful words about your grandmother.

In the end though, I really want nothing to do with the arguing. It would be better to not need to have a childish insult waiting in the wings of my mind to bestow upon people here, but if they flat out ask for it, I can be more than accommodating.

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At 6/12/14 05:01 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: I'd rather not fight... but if I'm going to be made to fight, you can be sure I will have some colorful words about your grandmother.

I'd expect nothing less from someone who can't form an actual argument and has no ground to stand on.

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You weren't looking for advice and you already have turned it around? Okay that totally slipped past me when you said you thought about suicide. It seemed like you were down in the dumps and were a bit lost. I was trying to convince you to turn things around, yes. I didn't realize that someone who was happy could write something like that. I'll stop posting here then and go back to watching cartoons on the movie part of the site lol

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this thread may make up the biggest victim complex i have ever seen here and that's saying a lot

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For once I want to ignore the drama.

"Most you've ever felt"

That is so ill-conceived really. Its an oxymoron of a statement.

Because I've been there. I've watched the life drain out of the eyes of the thing I loved most in this world. I had a panic attack in that very moment, I spent the next day walking around my own home feeling lost. I couldn't be in my room, I couldn't sleep there. I couldn't not think every moment about it. I never felt so lost, alone, scared, helpless and sick all at once.

But I never in a million years would consider that being the most I've ever FELT. Cause to me in that situation, I wasn't feeling anything. You can say I was feeling pain sure, I was. But its not the same as when you feel a burst of love or pride in your heart.

That hopeless moment in my past was bleak, but I FEEL more when my nephew says something which makes me smile, or when I'm hopelessly in love with someone. That is feeling.

Sorry if you're in a bad situation mate but its like the temperature. There is only an absence of heat. When it is cold, its not because the temperature got cold, its because there is less heat then there was before.

You're not feeling anything right now, not the things which truly make you feel. You have an absence of feeling if anything. If you want to feel then go out and kiss a girl. Jump out of a plane. Help an old lady cross the streets and let her thank you grantfully. If you do all that and still think that your sadness is the most you've ever felt then you're just full of shit son.

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At 6/12/14 04:31 PM, Vnzi wrote:

At 6/12/14 03:50 PM, Stereocrisis wrote:

You call anyone who disagrees with you ignorant and a idiot,

Not at all true. If someone disagreed with me about their favorite color, I wouldn't be so quick to fly off the handle. But these people are trying to argue the point that I'm a jerk, and I'll never be more than a jerk, and so they must treat me like a jerk. THAT'S when I call them ignorant. And if they've littered by thread with all their clueless opinions on behalf of who I am, you're damn right they are an idiot.

You see? This isn't exactly a disagreement about fabric softener. It's a disagreement about the way they choose to stalk my threads, and start a flame war any time I choose to make myself visible on the forums.

You don't see me calling everyone an idiot, or ignorant. That's my point. That's only reserved for those who rightly deserve it. Otherwise, you'll find me a very different character.

Do you at least see why I can't be agreeable when it's the other person's preference to be disagreeable?

and when people call you out it's like a never ending cycle of childish behaviour.

Call me out on what exactly? Insulting them? Maybe if they didn't insult me first? Does that at all make sense? Are you yourself a very decent person when someone confronts you like you're some kind of scumbag? I think not.

I wouldn't want to be on your good side if the only way to get it is to agree with everything you say ever.

That's not fair. I never said the only way to my good side is agreeing with my every word. I said the way to my good side is not getting rude with me. I could see if someone disagreed, and politely discussed with me why they disagree.

As you can very well read, that's not the case. They disagree, and get rude, and toss off insults well before me. I just give it as good as I get it. That makes me the bad guy? I think you're confused. I don't set out to attack anyone. I just don't stand by idly while someone is making a twat out of me. That isn't hard to understand. I doubt you would appear like the "good guy" if you had to tell someone off either. I'm not here looking for trouble. It's just these certain people who can't wait to get into an argument. I don't stalk their threads, so why do they stalk mine?

More insulting and attacking, Zachary's prediction is coming true.

Oh okay. Hey Zachary. Please, tell me how much I'm scum some more.

Is that what you expected my response to be? Of COURSE I insulted him. He can change that. All he has to do is not treat me like a twat. Then, and only then, will I stop behaving like a twat. But this turn the other cheek thing, I don't think so...

Also blaming your ex-wife when you are forced against the wall, nicely done. Let me just say I doubt someone would actually manage to access your profile and write a review over his review when you weren't home, and even if she did, she has the same sort of behaviour you have doesn't she?

Yeah, you doubt. You doubt something you have no knowledge of. Of course you doubt it. She didn't have to manage anything to access my account. My password was both our passwords. This was a SHARED account. Not my fault you find that suspicious, and it's STILL not my fault that she commented that.

If you, once again, can not get over her comment, from 2 years ago, I'm going to stick by what I told you. Get a life.

I would say the same thing to you, pal.

Why? I've let it go. This would have been over a long time ago. He's the one being persistent. I have a life. I just got off the phone with not one but two of my closest friends and nailed down plans to chill later. I'm not at all concerned with his rage about something from two years ago. My only concern is putting him in his place if he wants to keep coming at me. Just what am I supposed to do? Am I supposed to say, oh wow, you're right, I'm a total piece of shit. I agree. I'm so fucked up man. I'm just such a creep. Is that what would make you happy?

I'm obviously going to stick up for myself. And whether or not I stick up for myself childishly, by doing a fair amount of name calling, or flat out being real and apologizing, it still has no effect on this particular individual. I've TRIED to say sorry, for other shit, and be cool with him. Not my fault he can't do the same for me. And it's not my fault you walked in when you did, and only saw my reaction. There is a reason for my reactions. They aren't random attacks. What you read, if it's negative, is almost always a reaction to someone who can't stop treating me like dirt.

You sound like a whiny, arrogant jackass who can't grow up and face consequences when you should.

And you just sound like another Zachary...

We can tell a lot about you when you've been here for a few years, picking up little things from your posts. And besides, if Zachary supposedly been stalking you for two years, then he would already know how you act in that time. You contradict yourself.

Excuse me, but if someone is stalking me for two years, and has only ever said fucked up things towards me, then he WOULD have an expectation of my usual reaction to his bullshit, now wouldn't he? How is that a contradiction? He knows exactly how I'm going to react by now. He's still not convincing me that I'm bad and I should feel bad, and neither will you. You forget how AWARE I am that I'm childish at times. It's a conscious effort. I'm not fucking up. I'll be the most childish douchebag in the world if it's going to piss off people like him. It's an act reserved for people like him. My real personality goes in the complete opposite direction, and if you would only treat me with an ounce of dignity, you would find out that I'm not so bad.

Yeah, I CAN be a jerk. It's purposeful. I can be just as good as I can be a jerk.

And finally, you have no idea what depression is like.

Yeah, you know that, right?

t a single clue. With depression, you don't want people to know your hurting, that you're weak, that you don't have the strength to get out of bed sometimes.

On that note, I can safely say that I know those feeling all too well.

Anyway, not for nothing, but you sure did have a lot to say for someone who isn't grasping the situation very effectively. And if people are so sick of my bullshit, then don't respond. Plain and simple. If you know what you're about to say is rude, you can expect the same reaction I always have. Which you're damn right will be childish. What's wrong with childish? It pisses off the person needlessly starting shit, and it's fun to watch one of these people try to "school" me on what grace and civility should be. I mean, think about it. That's funny coming from Zachary. He's anything but civil.

At the end of the day, I'm capable of wiping slates clean with you people. It's on you to continue to get my bad side. Maybe you WANT my bad side... That's closer to the truth. If you know ahead of time that I'm going to lash out at you if you confront me with rudeness, and yet you still choose to confront me with rudeness, I think that says something. Doesn't it?

My main point here is one thing, and one thing alone. Don't come at me like a jerk, and I won't treat you like a jerk. This is the internet. I can only work with what you give me. If I'm confronted by those who want to talk down to me, I'm going to talk down to you. It doesn't get much simpler than that.

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At 6/12/14 05:49 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: Excuse me, but if someone is stalking me for two years

I'm not stalking you, nice try though and that review I left is only a year old. You stop stalking me!

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@Stereocrisis it takes 2 to tango. Even if they started everything your reactions are only going to contribute to the longevity of the attack. You can blame them for everything but that will not excuse any over reactions or responses you've contributed back to them. Like I said, that inadvertently fuels the argument/discussion and invites others to get involved.

This post is a good example of that.

Cheers~

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At 6/12/14 05:04 PM, Zachary wrote:

At 6/12/14 05:01 PM, Stereocrisis wrote: I'd rather not fight... but if I'm going to be made to fight, you can be sure I will have some colorful words about your grandmother.

I'd expect nothing less from someone who can't form an actual argument and has no ground to stand on.

Okay, let's just have this thing once and for all, so maybe some kind of reconciliation can happen.

Aside from all the times you've sought me out, with the intention of saying something disparaging, can you really say that you think you deserve better treatment from me?

What exactly have you brought to this particular table besides trying to take me down a peg?

Okay, actually, here's the main question. This is the question I want you to really consider and come up with an answer for.

What have you actually ever done to deserve better treatment?

Personally, I've divulged personal details of my life. I've actually apologized to you before too, you probably don't remember. I've been upfront with you. I've clearly shown you my boundaries, and you continue to plow right through them.

So, answer me that. What's so good about YOU that I should be licking your asshole? Because all I've ever seen from you are reasons for me to tell you to shut your ignorant mouth. Like trying to call me scum, and saying I'm a shitty person.

Do you really believe I should be nice to you?

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At 6/12/14 05:10 PM, GingerGymnast wrote: You weren't looking for advice and you already have turned it around?

Yeah, lol

Okay that totally slipped past me when you said you thought about suicide.

In the past, yes. Not anymore. I've grown out of my depression for the most part. Some things you just can't change. I was just saying how there was a point in my life where I felt suicidal. It was around the time of dealing with some pretty heavy things.

It seemed like you were down in the dumps and were a bit lost.

We all are some times. I appreciate that you took it upon yourself to help out a stranger. That was really nice of you. I just wasn't really looking for any advice really. :)

I was trying to convince you to turn things around, yes. I didn't realize that someone who was happy could write something like that. I'll stop posting here then and go back to watching cartoons on the movie part of the site lol

lol, okay, thanks anyway.

On a side note, you see how nice and favorable her response was? Take notice, I didn't fly off the handle and start lashing out at her. Why? Because she wasn't deserving of that. A person telling me I'm scum on the other hand, well, you witnessed how I talk to those buffoons.. Not pretty, was it? I'm aware of that, BTW. That it's not pretty, and it's childish and hostile. Yes, you are all very good at picking up the obvious, but not the cause of that ugliness...

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"And finally, you have no idea what depression is like. Not a single clue. With depression, you don't want people to know your hurting, that you're weak, that you don't have the strength to get out of bed sometimes. If you truly had depression you wouldn't be telling everyone here about it and expect warm welcomes with the way you acted. It's all bona fide bullshit, and it really puts the people that truly have depression into a bad light."

I don't think it's %100 right to say people that truly have X condition won't post about it. Look at that guy who shot up the beach, he was clearly insane and posted what he thought online all the time. I think some people who are depressed will reach points to where they just completely vent off. I'm not sure, but I think plenty of people with depression will occasionally do that.

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At 6/12/14 06:34 PM, Vnzi wrote:

I wish you luck in fighting the good fight, ma'am

these soldiers salute your efforts

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At 6/12/14 06:34 PM, Vnzi wrote: Because you actually admit you act like a jerk to them, because of some "feud" or something. If you are going to act in a certain way, don't complain that they get sick of it.

If you want to enter this conversation, you should at least have the facts straight. This long standing "feud" is something being waged against me. I'd be perfectly content to come here and instead have decent conversations with people. I'M the one who's sick of being treated like a jerk. Not the other way around. You can't see the correlation between getting treated like scum, and me getting pissed, and reacting?

I don't seek out their threads with something fucked up to say. That would be them...

I really don't think you have any understanding of what is even going on here. I'm hesitant to even read the rest of what you said for this reason, but I'll try...

I've seen a lot of your threads, they seem to be either self important messages of attention seeking and/or false sayings, i.e this thread.

How is asking everyone else to post their feelings, and general outlook a self-important thing? That's actually the opposite of being self-important. I wouldn't ask anyone to post their feelings if I only cared about my own, right? The part I posted about my own shit is simply my entry. You guys were all supposed to do the same thing. Not get stuck on MY thing.

Hahahaha I've seen you act like this even when Zachary and the others weren't here, so if so many people think the same thing like this then something is up.

Act like what? Defensive? I don't get why being defensive is looked down upon when others are being offensive. I think at that point, when someone is calling you scum, you get to take a couple of cheap shots of your own. Right? Doesn't mean I like it. We all have a breaking point. So, please, find and show me something I posted that's just being a jerk for no good reason. If you even can, find that for me, and I'll educate you on why I said what I said. Don't you feel that's a better way to make a judgment call? Get to the bottom of the truth, instead of just making a lot of assumptions?

I know you can't agree with any criticisms. That's a simple fact everyone knows about you.

Not true. I could agree with a criticism if it didn't have to come in the form of an insult. If someone said, hey Stereocrisis. I noticed you got offensive with someone here. What gives? I would tell you exactly what gives. Instead, people, like you for example, assume I didn't have a good reason, and call me names. What is it that ANY of you are not understanding? With me, I give what I get. You give me shit, I give it back 10 times more ignorantly. It's really not even hard to understand. You come at me pleasantly, and don't have shit to talk, and you'll find me 10 times as polite and agreeable. Likeable, even. Sadly, I don't get that chance all to often with certain people on here, who look for a reason to fight, and continually give me hell.

They call you out on your childish behaviour, like calling them names, insulting them, attacking them, all sorts of things like that.

Then maybe they shouldn't intentionally invoke those reactions. Don't be naïve. They know full well I'll tell them to go fuck themselves if they want to pick on me for no reason. Let me ask you this. When was the last time you were polite to someone talking to you like scum?

Don't tell me you don't do that, I can get a lot of evidence for this. And for me, I can actually agree and see what I do wrong when it is proven, and I can work upon that. Not throw insults and mindlessly disagree with the person until they get sick of me.

But they aren't saying anything remotely one way or the other agreeable or disagreeable. They're just be outright rude. Are you saying I need to take their rudeness into consideration, and work on MYSELF for something that's going on with them?

That doesn't make you as good as you believe, if someone disagrees with you regardless of how mean they are, you can politely argue with them instead of insulting them and/or ignoring them. You have a history, but you can reform if you actually acknowledge the way you act.

Oh okay, so when Zachary calls me a "shitty person" in your view, I should humbly disagree, and politely argue? What are you even talking about? Do you even know?

They don't throw insults at you actually, they make valid arguments for the way you act and then you blow it out of proportion by calling them all sorts of things. Again, you aren't perfect.

Never said I was.

*Sigh* This is just a never ending cycle. You treat so many people this way, that of course they are going to do this in return. You have a history of this, they aren't going to change this unless you change.

This "never ending cycle" you speak of could have met it's end a long time ago if they would stop with the bullying. You have to take these things into consideration. It is them seeking me out for a fight. Not me doing it to them.

Please give me any evidence that you actually shared this account before, because I truly doubt this.

How do I give evidence for something like that? What? Show you the games she's played, and the movies she's watched? You would just say I played them or watched them. There is no evidence. I didn't think I would need evidence for something so stupid. Excuse me for not locking those particular audio tapes and folders away in a safe!

How about acting a bit nicer and seeing where this gets you?

Okay, want to be friends?

(No.)

See how far that got me?

I doubt you said sorry at all, I need more evidence for this statement, because I doubt you actually would ever admit you are wrong.

More doubt, coming from someone who doesn't know... Give me something to feel "wrong" about and I'll apologize. Until then, I'm not going to bend or break my stance. I don't have anything to be sorry for really. What? Calling an asshole an asshole? I meant to do that. I'd do it again.

He would see how you act towards others, and base his opinions on this. Stalking on this website means seeing every post they make, so by that fact he would see your "good" side and your bad side as well. And again he's not stalking you, he's just calling out obvious bullshit.

Calling out what? That I suck? Are you fucking retarded or something? I'm not going to be nice to someone who treats me like shit. The same goes for you, or anyone else that wants to get involved in the Stereocrisis hating bandwagon.

There is no excuse for acting like a child when someone gives you hate or critism, I thought that was simple to understand. That's just sad.

I'm not making an excuse for it. I'm embracing it. Another thing. I didn't realize you wrote the book on how people should definitive act. Can I have your autograph?

That's hilarious, he's obviously not pissed off, in fact in my opinion it looks like he's actually enjoying your temper tantrum.

Exactly. He enjoys it. Think about that. He's baiting me to behave poorly. Why are you licking his asshole for that?

Then why tell a forum that you know will lash out against you? Seriously you contradict yourself far too often.

Why not tell a forum? Not everyone lashed out at me, as you, and others felt the need to do. So, in your own words, people here lash out at me for posting true things about my life, and my experiences with depression? Why are you defending them again?

It's so fucking hilarious that you act like a child on purpose and then tell other people that they act stupid, that is really pitiful but coming from you I wouldn't think othe......

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At 6/12/14 06:47 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Depression

I have my good days but when I see certain people or things I just snap into this depressive state for days.

Thanks for setting a good example. This is how a moderator should behave. He followed the rules of my thread, and responded accordingly.

Anyway, I know what you mean man. Certain people, and things can trigger my depressive states. I am lucky to have more good in my life than ever before. But I am occasionally reminded of what I've been through, and it sours my mood.

What kinds of things are you depressed about?

With me, it's a lot of little things all in a pile. Or more specifically, it feels like the bigger issues at my foundation dictate how I feel about all the other little injustices regular people face in normal day to day life.