Old people had some of the best job opportunities in their lifetimes and the longest amount of time to save up a lot of money in their lives too. Opportunities younger generations just won't have. They tend to be more financially well-off than younger generations.
Yet they feel entitled to senior discounts and raise all hell if a place doesn't offer senior discounts, and mostly buy whatever the cheapest item is anyway. Some of them complain that they're on pensions or whatever -- yeah well younger people mostly won't even have the opportunity to even receive a pension in old age anyway so they should quit complaining and consider themselves lucky they're already set for life.
If anything, everyone except seniors should get a discount. They're the last people who need a discount. If I ran a business, no senior discounts, and they can just go elsewhere if it bothers them that much. I wouldn't much desire haggling penny-pincher customers anyway.
At 6/8/14 01:45 PM, NeonSpider wrote: Old people had some of the best job opportunities in their lifetimes and the longest amount of time to save up a lot of money in their lives too. Opportunities younger generations just won't have. They tend to be more financially well-off than younger generations.
I agree. Seniors are just people that were born from a long time ago and we get nothing for what we do throughout history. Look at the Great Depression, Bailout of 2008 and Occupy Wall Street. Why can't anyone give out something for the poor?
Yet they feel entitled to senior discounts and raise all hell if a place doesn't offer senior discounts, and mostly buy whatever the cheapest item is anyway. Some of them complain that they're on pensions or whatever -- yeah well younger people mostly won't even have the opportunity to even receive a pension in old age anyway so they should quit complaining and consider themselves lucky they're already set for life.
Wow. I guess being a young person has some benefits besides being taken care of by the government with giving for the poor.
If anything, everyone except seniors should get a discount. They're the last people who need a discount. If I ran a business, no senior discounts, and they can just go elsewhere if it bothers them that much. I wouldn't much desire haggling penny-pincher customers anyway.
I think everyone should get a discount. There are some seniors that wish they can be dignified for being old and for the fact they are retired. Also, if I were running a business, I would give all people discounts.
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Wait until OP get to become an old man, he would fucking complain "Why there isn't discount for old man like me?..."
I don't see how this has any impact on you.
At 6/8/14 02:03 PM, Elitistinen wrote: Wait until OP get to become an old man, he would fucking complain "Why there isn't discount for old man like me?..."
Nope. I could see giving discounts to people for other reasons. Just being old shouldn't be one of them.
Military veterans discounts? I'm all for that.
If someone genuinely is poor then maybe you should give them a break but a lot of old people have plenty of money -- they're just really stingy with it.
At 6/8/14 02:06 PM, NuclearInfected wrote: I don't see how this has any impact on you.
If you give a discount to one group it means you're making up for that by forcing everyone else to pay their way. It impacts everyone.
Simply being old isn't something that should be discount-worthy.
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At 6/8/14 02:01 PM, fieldertiger wrote: I would give all people discounts.
So everyone would pay the same, so the discounts would be useless because everyone would have them.
Seniors are given a discount because after all those savings, inflation has increased the cost of goods to the point where they need that discount to survive. If you save up $1,000,000, you might think that's enough, right? But in 40 years, McDonalds might be offering the $100 menu because the cheapest things are at least $100. So if you're spending $1k on eating every day, how long until your one million runs out? A little under three years.
At 6/8/14 02:27 PM, Evark wrote: Seniors are given a discount because after all those savings, inflation has increased the cost of goods to the point where they need that discount to survive. If you save up $1,000,000, you might think that's enough, right? But in 40 years, McDonalds might be offering the $100 menu because the cheapest things are at least $100. So if you're spending $1k on eating every day, how long until your one million runs out? A little under three years.
I'm not saying inflation didn't hit them. It hits everyone. But even with that taken into account, old people still have more money than younger people, on average. Discounts should be given only on a needs-basis or on a merit-basis. "Being old" fits neither.
Why should old Richy McCorporateCEO receive a discount when young people work two or sometimes three jobs just to make ends meet get no discount?
Seniors are generally given discounts because they are generally unable to enter the workforce at their age, and thus any reliable income is going to be less.
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At 6/8/14 02:37 PM, protoAuthor wrote: Seniors are generally given discounts because they are generally unable to enter the workforce at their age, and thus any reliable income is going to be less.
I've seen a lot of working seniors, so I don't really think that's the case. Sure they might not like the jobs available but young people don't necessarily like the jobs available to them either.
Besides most of them have lots of savings which should cover their retirement anyway.
Are they disabled? I'd be in favor of giving a discount to disabled people. That falls under needs-basis. Not disabled but just old? No discount.
Nobody is forcing people to give seniors discounts. People give them discounts to bring in more of their business. I mean duh.
At 6/8/14 03:42 PM, Clamstuffer wrote: Nobody is forcing people to give seniors discounts. People give them discounts to bring in more of their business. I mean duh.
This is another thing to consider. No law requires a business to give a senior a discount, it's simply a societal norm. If you own a business, you can give or deny discounts to whoever the fuck you want.
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So what you're saying that by age 70, old people are already as rich as Bill Gates? So that's why we need to remove senior discounts?
Whatever you say, m8.
At 6/8/14 02:20 PM, Radaketor wrote:At 6/8/14 02:01 PM, fieldertiger wrote: I would give all people discounts.So everyone would pay the same, so the discounts would be useless because everyone would have them.
Thanks, dude. Now I can tell everyone that there won't be discounts if I have a business. You know what, I would just go say that the seniors and poor are the only who should have discounts.
Nobody shall forget what happened on June 10, 2007. (By which, I mean in The Sopranos.)
Senior discounts exist for the same reason student discounts do; because the vast majority of their recipients can't work full-time and therefore have limited disposable income, but they still want/need to buy shit and do stuff like anyone else. Are seniors (or students) entitled to a discount everywhere they go? No, but it's a smart decision for businesses to make because it attracts a demographic that might otherwise not be willing or able to spend there.
You're vastly overestimating the amount of money most people manage to save for retirement and how far that money will get them. People who rely entirely on pensions/social security are living on a very fixed income and by and large have nowhere near as much spending money as they did when they were working.
Plus there's just the cultural matter of respect and care for the elderly, which isn't going to change regardless of which generation had a better job market.
At 6/8/14 02:34 PM, NeonSpider wrote: I'm not saying inflation didn't hit them. It hits everyone. But even with that taken into account, old people still have more money than younger people, on average.
Older people who are still working, not elderly people who are retired.
I just hate old people in general.
Especially when they feel entitled to something because they're old.
At 6/8/14 07:59 PM, NGPulp wrote: I just hate old people in general.
Especially when they feel entitled to something because they're old.
They really are one of the most entitled groups, always thinking people "owe" them this or that just because they're old. If it's not senior discounts they'll act like people owe them free services of various sorts. If you didn't work for it or earn it then nobody "owes" you anything. Someone might be nice and give you something out of pity but they don't "owe" it.
They also do blatantly socially unacceptable inappropriate things in public then claim you can't call them out on it just because they're old. It's worse than the race card really. I'll call it the old card.
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