People who go through live happy

[beakerboy]

Seriously need to somehow become confined to a wheel-chair for 2 months. Or experience temporary blindness. Or be told by someone they look up to that they are worthless. Or have their expectations on a particular thing completely destroyed right in front of them. What am I getting at? People who go through life experiencing not a single bit of disappoint or mental strain mind fuck themselves into thinking that everyone who has is some kind of twisted alien fuck, who made the choice of not seeing things about as shiny as said people.

Example:
Kid gets held up during a super market robbery and develops some kind of anxiety. Now he is labeled as being mentally ill from a macroscopic viewpoint. He was capable of picking himself up by the boot straps instead of getting some kind of anxiety disorder, so he must be punished by the system. What does mental illness refer to? It refers to judging/labeling/belittling/berating/alienating/discriminating against/torturing people in a legal fashion JUST because we think it is SOMEHOW necessary. Today is a lot more liberal than today 60 years ago, but hey, it is still pretty fucking shitty, with only a small percentage of people having the wits to understand what I'm talking about. Women in the 1900s have spent most of their lives in institutions for cheating on their husbands and then being diagnosed with an illness.

Pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars and laughing their asses off at just about everyone. These two topics do kind of tie into each other so don't accuse of me of aimlessly ranting. Am I biased? I try not to be. I just try to be realistic.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 07:49 PM, WahyahRanger wrote: I'm slightly confused as to the exact point of this thread. Like I can tell you're mad but the exact issue eludes me.

You're not high, are you?

This was my thesis statement, moron.
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People who go through life experiencing not a single bit of disappoint or mental strain mind fuck themselves into thinking that everyone who has is some kind of twisted alien fuck, who made the choice of not seeing things about as shiny as said people.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 07:54 PM, WahyahRanger wrote:

At 6/7/14 07:52 PM, beakerboy wrote: This was my thesis statement, moron.

I don't know that calling me a moron was necessary.

after reading your latest thread, it was absolutely necessary.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 07:56 PM, WahyahRanger wrote:

At 6/7/14 07:55 PM, beakerboy wrote: after reading your latest thread, it was absolutely necessary.

Which thread would that be

the one where you talked about thepotential for a livable minimum wage in one state and then talked about how it was going to ruin everything.

[NekoMika]

Just a thought, but maybe they go through life happy because they were raised in an environment where things went well and their parents were accepting of them and taught them ways to stay happy even in the saddest times.

[SansNumbers]

I'm sorry that you feel the need to try and bring people down with your negativity even though we're just trying to enjoy ourselves and forget about our suffering for a little while. I'll be sure to blast Pharrell's Happy extra loud when you're around.

[Ejit]

There is a serious fucking lack of empathy in the world and it's pretty flipping disappointing. I'm not sure how people manage to be so stupid. . Utter disdain for the even outside of my inability , anyone outside of their social class that they don't necessarily Dickheads, probablyhave to interact with. Classism is about as popular as it's ever been because it's fucking post-ironic classism where people take the piss out of themselves on account of eating lobste even have to pay mortgages.r because real poverty obviously doesn't actually exist in their country - it's just feckless knobheads. Obviously. And they don't

It's depressing, poor and needy to attract members of the opposite sex.

[Me-Patch]

At 6/7/14 07:52 PM, beakerboy wrote: People who go through life experiencing not a single bit of disappoint or mental strain mind fuck themselves into thinking that everyone who has is some kind of twisted alien fuck, who made the choice of not seeing things about as shiny as said people.

Who has ever gone through life without experiencing a single bit of disappointment or mental strain? Sure some people are better at coping with adversity than others, and that doesn't give them the right to dismiss other people's emotions as unfounded. But facing the challenges in your life with a negative attitude is just an objectively bad strategy compared to trying to make the best out of a bad situation. A negative attitude alienates people. For whatever reason it's just human nature to avoid people that have one. Is it shallow and hypocritical? Sure, but that's the way it is.

You're just better off being nice. Positive thinking isn't going to solve your problems for you, but it will impede your progress far less than a shitty attitude will.

[Urban-Champion]

At 6/7/14 07:59 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Just a thought, but maybe they go through life happy because they were raised in an environment where things went well and their parents were accepting of them and taught them ways to stay happy even in the saddest times.

^ This. I'm pretty sure everyone has experienced their share of ups and downs in their life.

[JoshuaHughes]

It's all about not letting the negativity consume you, brother! Hope all is going well for you.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 07:59 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Just a thought, but maybe they go through life happy because they were raised in an environment where things went well and their parents were accepting of them and taught them ways to stay happy even in the saddest times.

I was with you until you got to the "ways to stay happy even in the saddest times."
Yes there are people who go through life happy because of their environment and this is actually a BAD THING in most cases. People who are completely ignorant to feeling bad, sad, down, sideways or whatever will develop delusional perceptions of the people around them.

At 6/7/14 08:04 PM, Me-Patch wrote:
Who has ever gone through life without experiencing a single bit of disappointment or mental strain? Sure some people are better at coping with adversity than others, and that doesn't give them the right to dismiss other people's emotions as unfounded. But facing the challenges in your life with a negative attitude is just an objectively bad strategy compared to trying to make the best out of a bad situation. A negative attitude alienates people. For whatever reason it's just human nature to avoid people that have one. Is it shallow and hypocritical? Sure, but that's the way it is.

You're just better off being nice. Positive thinking isn't going to solve your problems for you, but it will impede your progress far less than a shitty attitude will.

My example was about a kid who was held at gun-point by a man robbing a convenience store. That doesn't happen to everyone? I think you got the wrong idea. I'm not talking about fake problems like 'my gf left me' or 'my mom wouldn't buy me that video-game I wanted' or even 'that jerk at school is bullying me!'
I'm studying to be some type of Psychologist and with the amateur knowledge I do have I can assure you that negative experiences create more room for empathy whereas positive creates none.

The attitude of "stay happy" is exactly the problem I am talking about here.

At 6/7/14 08:06 PM, Urban-Champion wrote:

At 6/7/14 07:59 PM, SCTE3 wrote: Just a thought, but maybe they go through life happy because they were raised in an environment where things went well and their parents were accepting of them and taught them ways to stay happy even in the saddest times.

^ This. I'm pretty sure everyone has experienced their share of ups and downs in their life.

Pfffftttt no dude. Most people are aggressively sheltered from shit by their parents/family.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 08:01 PM, WahyahRanger wrote:


If you disagree with my opinion, I'm sorry. I don't think that's reason to insult me.

welp you did ask me if I was high, which was slightly rude so I guess we're just about even then mkkk.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 08:26 PM, WahyahRanger wrote:

At 6/7/14 08:24 PM, beakerboy wrote: welp you did ask me if I was high, which was slightly rude so I guess we're just about even then mkkk.

I've never heard of somebody taking being high as an insult. Your sentences are kind of skewed in the OP I was asking a serious question.

But also please answer my last question if you didn't see it...

I already stated, in your own thread, that I have no comments to make about the wage issue because I haven't taken any advanced econ. classes yet. I don't talk about things I know nothing about unlike most people.

[Ctdgrop]

Ya'll need jesus.........

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 08:32 PM, WahyahRanger wrote:

It should have been nation-wide, and steady. Even if it was over the course of 2 years, the wage increasing each month. Because while I'm not claiming to be an economics expert, instantly giving everyone double their paycheck would probably fuck things up.

Oh, Yeah..? Life isn't fair :D

[GrizzlyOne]

What are you even talkng about.

Most people I see classified with a mental illness usually need some kind of help.

[stafffighter]

The two of you stop arguing or the thread goes away. Have a pleasant evening.

[Me-Patch]

At 6/7/14 08:21 PM, beakerboy wrote: My example was about a kid who was held at gun-point by a man robbing a convenience store. That doesn't happen to everyone? I think you got the wrong idea. I'm not talking about fake problems like 'my gf left me' or 'my mom wouldn't buy me that video-game I wanted' or even 'that jerk at school is bullying me!'

It's funny you should say that, because I've been robbed at gunpoint before. I'd say that, for me, the emotional damage of being robbed at gunpoint was significantly less than that of a "fake problem" like being left by a girlfriend. We're talking about a massive moral grey area here. What can be life shattering for one person can be a funny story one day for another.

If you view your problems as somehow unique and insurmountable you're only hurting yourself. Life is not a fairytale, and the real world is harsh and we have to learn to cope with what comes our way. No matter who you are bad shit is going to happen you, and then you're going to die. You can try to have a good time, or you can be miserable. It's up to you.

I'm studying to be some type of Psychologist and with the amateur knowledge I do have I can assure you that negative experiences create more room for empathy whereas positive creates none.

I absolutely agree with that statement. I was talking about attitudes not experiences. People who are mentally strong are often that way because they've overcome significant challenges in their life.

The attitude of "stay happy" is exactly the problem I am talking about here.

You seem to be concerned with the attitudes of other people in regards to those who are experiencing challenges in their life. I'm trying to give advice that works for me when I'm in a bad place. I'm not trying to tell you or anyone else that they should just get over it. Coping and grieving are highly personal processes, and I have nothing but respect for the emotional states of other people. We all get sad. Somebody said it's all about not to letting it consume you. I agree with that.

[Jester]

If I allowed myself to get bummed out every time I saw someone less fortunate than me, i'd have blown my brains out by now.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 08:35 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: What are you even talkng about.

Most people I see classified with a mental illness usually need some kind of help.

"Social norms change over time. behavior that was once seen as abnormal may, given time, become acceptable and vice versa. For example drink driving was once considered acceptable but is now seen as socially unacceptable whereas homosexuality has gone the other way. Until 1980 homosexuality was considered a psychological disorder by the World Health Organization (WHO) but today is considered acceptable."

[argile]

At 6/7/14 07:52 PM, beakerboy wrote:

At 6/7/14 07:49 PM, WahyahRanger wrote: I'm slightly confused as to the exact point of this thread. Like I can tell you're mad but the exact issue eludes me.

You're not high, are you?

This was my thesis statement, moron.

People who go through life experiencing not a single bit of disappoint or mental strain mind fuck themselves into thinking that everyone who has is some kind of twisted alien fuck, who made the choice of not seeing things about as shiny as said people.

I don't see why that is a problem ,Some people are fortunate to be like that in their lifes I envy them in some degree.

[GrizzlyOne]

At 6/7/14 08:59 PM, beakerboy wrote:

At 6/7/14 08:35 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: What are you even talkng about.

Most people I see classified with a mental illness usually need some kind of help.

"Social norms change over time. behavior that was once seen as abnormal may, given time, become acceptable and vice versa. For example drink driving was once considered acceptable but is now seen as socially unacceptable whereas homosexuality has gone the other way. Until 1980 homosexuality was considered a psychological disorder by the World Health Organization (WHO) but today is considered acceptable."

I could go on on why homosexuality is not bad at all, and drunk driving can lead to things like dramatically increased chance of manslaughter and completely destroying your car.

I don't really see the problem with your statement about social norms.

[SansNumbers]

At 6/7/14 08:59 PM, beakerboy wrote: "Social norms change over time. blah blah blah"

"Fucking children is actually good now." -The Internet, 2038

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 08:56 PM, Weeaboo wrote: Man, Ive had my fair share of tough shit to handle with, and I really do not wish for other people to have some kind of suffering, just because they live a better life than me.
What does that make me? An even shittier person in general.

Well some of the tough shit I've had to deal with was a result of experiential ignorance. And many other people out there can say the same thing.

At 6/7/14 08:52 PM, Jester wrote: If I allowed myself to get bummed out every time I saw someone less fortunate than me, i'd have blown my brains out by now.

ehh jester xD I think you missed the point. This is not about the single reaction to the external. This is about the general external reaction to the single.

At 6/7/14 09:05 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote:

I could go on on why homosexuality is not bad at all, and drunk driving can lead to things like dramatically increased chance of manslaughter and completely destroying your car.

I don't really see the problem with your statement about social norms.

this statement isn't mine. And it is about the concept/abstract idea of social acceptance, which directly pertains to "mental illness"

[steph2568]

Maybe some people just have healthy coping strategies? You don't know everyone's personal struggles.

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 08:48 PM, Me-Patch wrote:
It's funny you should say that, because I've been robbed at gunpoint before. I'd say that, for me, the emotional damage of being robbed at gunpoint was significantly less than that of a "fake problem" like being left by a girlfriend. We're talking about a massive moral grey area here. What can be life shattering for one person can be a funny story one day for another.

If you view your problems as somehow unique and insurmountable you're only hurting yourself. Life is not a fairytale, and the real world is harsh and we have to learn to cope with what comes our way. No matter who you are bad shit is going to happen you, and then you're going to die. You can try to have a good time, or you can be miserable. It's up to you.


I absolutely agree with that statement. I was talking about attitudes not experiences. People who are mentally strong are often that way because they've overcome significant challenges in their life.


You seem to be concerned with the attitudes of other people in regards to those who are experiencing challenges in their life. I'm trying to give advice that works for me when I'm in a bad place. I'm not trying to tell you or anyone else that they should just get over it. Coping and grieving are highly personal processes, and I have nothing but respect for the emotional states of other people. We all get sad. Somebody said it's all about not to letting it consume you. I agree with that.

there is a moral grey area, this topic is governed mostly by moral/ethics. That's why I'd never discuss it with someone who was religious. My apologies if that happened to you, but keep in mind that just because 2 people say they had the same thing happen to them, doesn't make the details and contextual differences suddenly become identical, along with the individuals' own unique perceptions, which is usually based mostly off of AGE, and BRAIN DEVELOPMENT (most people jump to genetics, or lol:choice:lol:attitude:lol).
Yes i am. welp alot of people lord over people. its pretty sad.

[Urban-Champion]

At 6/7/14 09:13 PM, steph2568 wrote: Maybe some people just have healthy coping strategies? You don't know everyone's personal struggles.

and the thread may now come to a peaceful resolve.

Also OP did you know that there are places in the world that aren't america

[beakerboy]

At 6/7/14 09:22 PM, Urban-Champion wrote:

At 6/7/14 09:13 PM, steph2568 wrote: Maybe some people just have healthy coping strategies? You don't know everyone's personal struggles.

and the thread may now come to a peaceful resolve.

Also OP did you know that there are places in the world that aren't america

are you talking about non-developed countries where people behave like wild animals? Yes I am aware of those.
Also, you quoted a moron who missed every point that I made.

[Jester]

At 6/7/14 09:12 PM, beakerboy wrote:

At 6/7/14 08:52 PM, Jester wrote: If I allowed myself to get bummed out every time I saw someone less fortunate than me, i'd have blown my brains out by now.

ehh jester xD I think you missed the point. This is not about the single reaction to the external. This is about the general external reaction to the single.

it's not unlikely considering your entire point is inconsistent and rambling pseudophilosophy

A trend among your threads is "the illusion of happiness is for idiots," so I don't know how much of a goddamned bummer your life must be, but sharing your 2deep verbal messes certainly isn't doing anyone any good or changing any life outlooks. At this point it almost seems like you're pretending to be unstable so you can be in a dim spotlight for a few minutes.

[KatMaestro]

Fuck social stigmas. Mental illness people are made to look like a problem for the system. Something and someone always ready to get blamed on. Take anti-depressant med? Oops, look like you can't get a job as a cop or government place. Take psychotic med? Uh oh, this guy might be a future mass-shooter.