Rad Metalcore Mix?

[hoorayjay]

Hey! So I've working on demo's for my band and I have pretty good sound so far, I was wondering what you do to increase the heavy and make rad sounding heavy stuff? I know a lot of you are Electronic producers but it'd grand to hear from the instrument community of NG :3

[freaksy101]

Use distortion. Maybe some eq.

[Ryuno074]

At 5/31/14 05:49 PM, hoorayjay wrote: Hey! So I've working on demo's for my band and I have pretty good sound so far, I was wondering what you do to increase the heavy and make rad sounding heavy stuff? I know a lot of you are Electronic producers but it'd grand to hear from the instrument community of NG :3

https://soundcloud.com/ryunocore/ars-finita
I work with metal too and can give you some tips, but you'll have to be specific on what you want. There is almost no information on your post.

[sorohanro]

At 5/31/14 05:49 PM, hoorayjay wrote: Hey! So I've working on demo's for my band and I have pretty good sound so far, I was wondering what you do to increase the heavy and make rad sounding heavy stuff? I know a lot of you are Electronic producers but it'd grand to hear from the instrument community of NG :3

Sometimes less is for the better (or how some say "less is more"). This can apply to distortion as well. If you listen to Korn albums, you'll notice that they don't overdo it with distortion, it's rather a bit of amp drive, some chorus and a very percussive way of playing (+ some really low tuning).

Sometimes more is more :D, so, maybe a bit of distortion on the bass? maybe you run the bass through a clean DI and in parallel you reamp it (through real or VST amp).
Or, you split the bands of the bass guitar, keep the low frequencies mono but on the mid-high you put a chorus and make it wide stereo.

A HUGE gated reverb on the snare might sound good?
Some delay on the voice that would have a lo-fi/ distorted/ megaphone effect (just the delay, not the clean voice).
Wall of sound on guitars?
Some "synthy" ostinato (like 8Dio Aura or Hybrid Tools)?

[hoorayjay]

At 6/1/14 11:04 AM, sorohanro wrote:

At 5/31/14 05:49 PM, hoorayjay wrote:

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Thank you for your response! I'm currently using Zombass 3 which is a Kontakt instrument for bass, I write a lot of the music but each individual member has a say on how their part works and since I am bass, clean vocals and programmer, I know a tad bit more so I chose to use VSti bass because I can't really afford new bass strings at the moment in the band and I can't get a decent clear tone from Pod Farm at this moment.

Keep it all coming!

[Zewski]

Since your focused on bass playing and your looking for heavy/punchy sounds I have a technique that might help you that I learned from Family Jules 7x's recording series.

Once you've finished creating your bass tone (w/o distortion) and have everything recorded and ready to go you can try duplicating the track with the same effects you had from before (tone, EQ and everything else) then adding distortion in it's appropriate spot according to your signal chain, I use bass overdrive from Pod Farm with the bass nob turned all the way down. In review, one track with distortion, one without. Once both tracks are played over all of the other instruments the distortion will have disappeared and the bass guitar will stand out in the mix a whole lot more, sounding more punchy, heavy and present.

If you are having Pod Farm trouble feel free to ask me. I use that software all the time.

[MetalRenard]

"Less" distortion is definitely "more"! Don't think that more distortion translates into "heavier". In fact all it does it make it sound weak. Turn the overdrive down as much as a third and it will really open up the sound, the dynamics will come out again and make the whole thing sound bigger.

[Zewski]

I definitely agree, maybe I should have clarified a bit more. Always use distortion sparingly, as said above, as it could harm more than help depending on the circumstance.

[MetalRenard]

At 6/1/14 04:05 PM, Zewski wrote: I definitely agree, maybe I should have clarified a bit more. Always use distortion sparingly, as said above, as it could harm more than help depending on the circumstance.

Sorry if you misunderstood, none of that was criticism of what you said. You gave some great advice. I love a bit of overdrive on my bass, in fact I often use the overdriven bass to give most of the power to the song. :)