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Okay, no list of anyone in particular, who would you like to rule you if you had to choose, I mean anyone?

At 5/28/14 02:51 PM, PanzerKorpse wrote: Okay, no list of anyone in particular, who would you like to rule you if you had to choose, I mean anyone?

My Prime Minster, Rutte.

None.

Miuna is love.

Miuna is life.

At 5/28/14 08:34 AM, Makakaov wrote:

At 5/27/14 08:15 PM, Lemonardo wrote: Hitler.
A nation without leftists, communists, and cultural decay. Sign me up.

Hitler was a socialist. He brought Nazism to Germany, which is known under full name of National Socialism. National Socialism is a left wing doctrine, pretty close to Communism.

The whole point of National Socialism was that it was Socialism without the Marxist parts, which Hitler believed was included by Marx, a Jew, to create a system that put the Jews in control of the government, by destroying the class system, leaving only a bottom class and the ruling class, which would be the very richest class, which at the time internationalist Jews mostly occupied. Hitler also didn't like that in a Marxist society the people really had no power compared to the government, which was called a 'people's democracy,' in order to get around the fact that a socialist state is supposed to put power in the hands of the public.

Hitler wanted a system that forced every class to depend on eachother; the government depended on the miner, depended on the businessman, depended on the writer, depended on the government. He did this by employing Keynesian economics, a capitalist idea, that abandoned wealth being backed by gold and other commodities, and instead being backed by labour, thus making it so that whatever work one does benefits the nation as a whole. Employers and business owners would have to work themselves to get money, and divide profits with their workers, meaning the lowliest of classes still benefited, but so did the upper classes if they decided to get working themselves. This would eventually lead to a reduction of employment in the capitalist sector of the economy, and those left unemployed would be put into national projects, such as building roads and houses, effectively reducing all unemployment to virtually zero.

It was a mix of socialism and capitalism, neither right wing nor left wing.

At 5/28/14 06:17 PM, Lemonardo wrote: Economy

Political beliefs and preferred economic model are two different things, despite being connected with themselves. We all know, what kind of economy Hitler was supposedly to implement, despite him putting whole country in debt.

It's nice that you can read, but I mentioned Nazism, you know, the thing Hitler was more famous of than his economy model. And Nazism IS A LEFTIST DOCTRINE, close to communism. And yeah, as you even mentioned, in Reich government was partially regulating the economy. We know where this idea belongs.

At 5/28/14 06:57 PM, Makakaov wrote: Political beliefs and preferred economic model are two different things, despite being connected with themselves. We all know, what kind of economy Hitler was supposedly to implement, despite him putting whole country in debt.

It's nice that you can read, but I mentioned Nazism, you know, the thing Hitler was more famous of than his economy model. And Nazism IS A LEFTIST DOCTRINE, close to communism. And yeah, as you even mentioned, in Reich government was partially regulating the economy. We know where this idea belongs.

The political belief was that the best society was one that could sustain itself without outside influences, with a strong identity, cultural and racial, that stands proud of the nations around it, and hopes that other nations follow its example. Communism attempts to force its ideology of class warfare by provoking revolutions in surrounding nations, which then become absorbed into one Communist mass. The two are very different and opposed to one another. Hitler's political career was much inspired by the events of the German Revolution of 1918-9, a revolution led mostly by communist Jews and financed by capitalist Jews, which sparked Hitler's hatred of Jewry.

At 5/28/14 07:06 PM, Lemonardo wrote: The political belief....

Also, National Socialism's idea that every system should depend on eachother made that the economy often did intertwine with the politics of the nation.

Caesar

Stalin would just kill me for some random thing possibly and Hitler would probably make a bad military move at some point dooming half of the country.

At 5/28/14 07:06 PM, Lemonardo wrote: The political belief was that the best society was one that could sustain itself without outside influences, with a strong identity, cultural and racial, that stands proud of the nations around it, and hopes that other nations follow its example. Communism attempts to force its ideology of class warfare by provoking revolutions in surrounding nations, which then become absorbed into one Communist mass. The two are very different and opposed to one another. Hitler's political career was much inspired by the events of the German Revolution of 1918-9, a revolution led mostly by communist Jews and financed by capitalist Jews, which sparked Hitler's hatred of Jewry.

Just because he hated Jews and communists, it doesn't mean he wasn't acting pretty much like them. III Reich and USSR shared a lot; governments were regulating the economy and indoctrinating people, both Nazi and Communist countries could not survive with other non Nazi/Communist countries around, so they had to conquer the world or fall miserably. In both Reich and Union people were indoctrinated and told what to do in pretty simple life aspects and what to think. In both Riech and Union people were robbed from their valuable possessions, in both Riech and Union there was censorship and police state terror, in both Reich and Union the unemployment was below 1% and so on and so on.

And truly, you don't even have to compare these countries. All you have to do is to check what defines socialist countries and doctrines. Nazi Germany, USSR, EU, it's all the same but with cosmetic differences.