Can video games be art?

[Xiicubed]

Films and literature are considered art, but can video games also be art?

[Shade]

Nope. Video games are too crude to be considered art. Just like Comic Books.

[Xenomit]

Yes

[MrPercie]

At 4/20/14 07:10 PM, Shade wrote: Nope. Video games are too crude to be considered art. Just like Comic Books.

I guess that is a good analogy, but it might depend on the game.

[abbuw]

No effort is placed into the making of video games. Textures, maps, models, sprites, code... they can all be created in a matter of seconds! This is why video games will never be art!

[PotHeadParadise]

video games are a waste. it brainwashes most of 90% gamers to buy more games. video games is a drug. shit i smoke weed but i dont spend 30 hours on it like holding a controller. how can you hold a controller that long.

[Shadaw]

It is art, but the companies are not concerned with art quality, their concerned with making a profit.

[kazumazkan]

At 4/20/14 07:11 PM, anothercoolguy wrote: umm idk

what the fuck

[mechadude32]

According to the Supreme Court.

Yes.

[Profanity]

Shut the fuck up. Seriously? Not a difficult question. Anything that serves no purpose other than to entertain the mind is art. English developed over thousands of years to describe this bullshit with simple canopy words, but now we're evolving out of that.

Call video games anything you want. Interactive art. Games. Artificial environments are going to be popylar once we have full immersion. The world isn't cut and dry.

Fuck your shit. Fuck it.

[Piggler]

Video games involve a commercialized form of art, but I don't believe they are art themselves.

[null556]

It depends on the game, or more importantly, the motive behind making the game. If it's created to to make you feel something, or to tell a story or send a message, then I'd consider it art. If it's just something slapped together to make money, I wouldn't really consider it art.

[Ragnarokia]

I think threads can be art, because they can be argued to be able to exist in multiple places they don't fit in.

[Profanity]

At 4/20/14 08:26 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: I think threads can be art, because they can be argued to be able to exist in multiple places they don't fit in.

Stuff a sock in it. Threads don't magically need to be posted in Video Games because they have the word Video Gane in them. That forum's for getting ridoif the mundane shitposting about new releases that used to clog up General 24/7.

Same goes for Politics. It's just there to keep people from spamming news stories and sharing theîr parents' "genius wisdom" every ducking election season.

I swear, you backseat mods get dumber every fucking year,

[Chocomilk]

At 4/20/14 07:12 PM, MrPercie wrote:

At 4/20/14 07:10 PM, Shade wrote: Nope. Video games are too crude to be considered art. Just like Comic Books.

I guess that is a good analogy, but it might depend on the game.

Bad analogy.

[cast]

Video games are collaborative works of art.

[KatMaestro]

At 4/20/14 07:13 PM, abbuw wrote: No effort is placed into the making of video games. Textures, maps, models, sprites, code... they can all be created in a matter of seconds! This is why video games will never be art!

Are you fucking serious?

[abbuw]

At 4/20/14 09:19 PM, Elitistinen wrote:

At 4/20/14 07:13 PM, abbuw wrote: No effort is placed into the making of video games. Textures, maps, models, sprites, code... they can all be created in a matter of seconds! This is why video games will never be art!

Are you fucking serious?

I am 100 percent serious, as a mapper/texture/sprite person!

[FRAYDO]

THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WIND WAKER

[Dr-Worm]

At 4/20/14 08:13 PM, Piggler wrote: Video games involve a commercialized form of art

So does every other medium. The existence of a commercial mainstream doesn't invalidate the entire medium, or you'd also have to say that film and music and books and everything else aren't art.

In video games like in all those other media, yeah, art and commerce overlap. And also like in all those other media, there are mainstream games that lean more towards the commercial and there are independent games that lean more towards the artistic. If the likes of Gone Home or Papers, Please or even a major studio work like Shadow of the Colossus aren't "art themselves" then I don't know what art is.

[Painbringer]

Anything manipulated by the hands of man is considered art.

[Dr-Worm]

At 4/20/14 07:17 PM, WaffleVoyager wrote: I'd consider something like Gone Home or The Stanley Parable art, but then the cool kids don't consider them games anyway.

Those aren't the cool kids, those are the least cool kids.

[JRob]

>Ōkami

[SneakyGameBoy]

Sure. Have you seen how beautiful games have looked recently? It's amazing how games that involve senseless killing like GTA can have breath taking scenery.

[KatMaestro]

At 4/20/14 09:22 PM, abbuw wrote:
I am 100 percent serious, as a mapper/texture/sprite person!

I bet you never write codes. At least not for game.

As a former demoscener (planning to go back), coding an artistic 64kb can take weeks to months.

Please don't judge a picture when you know so little.

[SneakyGameBoy]

At 4/20/14 07:13 PM, abbuw wrote: No effort is placed into the making of video games.

Oh ok. I would like to see you make a video game, sense you think the process of making one is such a breeze.

[abbuw]

At 4/20/14 09:51 PM, SneakyGameBoy wrote:

At 4/20/14 07:13 PM, abbuw wrote: No effort is placed into the making of video games.

Oh ok. I would like to see you make a video game, sense you think the process of making one is such a breeze.

I wouldn't dare make a video game! They're evil! They train our children to kill people!

[MrPercie]

At 4/20/14 08:46 PM, Chocomilk wrote: Bad analogy.

sorry, wrong word, I meant a good comparison.

I have a habit of not thinking of the right word.

[Kwing]

Literature isn't art, it's just for keeping records of taxes.

Music isn't art, it's just a way for chanting monks to make their voice travel over long distances.

Photography isn't art, it's just a way to know what people look like.

[orangebomb]

I consider some games to be art, as in having fantastic art styling to them, but video games are supposed to be entertainment first and foremost. Somewhere along the line, it seems like someone either totally forgot about this premise, or just make arthouse style games for a small segment of asshats to gush over, and treat it as it's the best thing for gaming in whatever amount of time, when that's not even close to the point of video games in the first place.