Hi, Newgrounds!
Behind the bright smiling face in my avatar is a man who constantly feels like garbage, most likely thanks to teenage hormones and angst and all that.
So tell me, is therapy worth it? I have stories and things to talk about and my self esteem is incredibly low, but I don't have a single person I'm comfortable telling all that to. Thus, having my parents pay to buy someone to listen to me sounds like an okay plan. But I dunno! I'm afraid they'll just label me with ADD or ADHD or depression and take more and more of my parents' money. Are a lot of therapists scams? Are they really worth it?
The only other options are to spiritually "find myself" (and I'm not very spiritual) or to just do nothing and let more and more days pass by until I can look back and laugh about how much of a loser I was for being a loser.
Whaddya think, Newgrounds?
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Depends on how good your therapist/counsellor is. If you live in the UK, go and see your GP about it and he or she will refer you to one for free, and it won't cost your parents a penny.
I think if you go in with a clear outcome of what you'd like to get out of it, then it can be useful. If you go in with the intention of just to talk about why you think you're garbage, then you'd be wasting your time. The idea is to get passed all that junk, not reinforce it.
At 3/6/14 08:06 PM, GingerGymnast wrote: I think if you go in with a clear outcome of what you'd like to get out of it, then it can be useful. If you go in with the intention of just to talk about why you think you're garbage, then you'd be wasting your time. The idea is to get passed all that junk, not reinforce it.
This. If you still feel like crap afterwards and keeping feeling down 24/7 even with someone listening to you and trying to get you help then you're wasting time.
At 3/6/14 08:10 PM, SCTE3 wrote:At 3/6/14 08:06 PM, GingerGymnast wrote: I think if you go in with a clear outcome of what you'd like to get out of it, then it can be useful. If you go in with the intention of just to talk about why you think you're garbage, then you'd be wasting your time. The idea is to get passed all that junk, not reinforce it.This. If you still feel like crap afterwards and keeping feeling down 24/7 even with someone listening to you and trying to get you help then you're wasting time.
That's a terrific point. I'll definitely consider that. The only thing is, what do I do in the case where I'm just wasting my time but I feel bad anyway? Just sit through it?
At 3/6/14 08:22 PM, Lepy wrote: That's a terrific point. I'll definitely consider that. The only thing is, what do I do in the case where I'm just wasting my time but I feel bad anyway? Just sit through it?
Should be honest with them about it and see if they can still try to find a way to help. Keeping a diary could also help, sounds dumb but sometimes writing down your thoughts can help you feel better.
At 3/6/14 07:52 PM, Satan wrote: Depends on how good your therapist/counsellor is. If you live in the UK, go and see your GP about it and he or she will refer you to one for free, and it won't cost your parents a penny.
Daang, I don't live in the UK, nor do I know what a GP is, but I assume it's (like?) a school cousellor.
At 3/6/14 08:24 PM, Lepy wrote:At 3/6/14 07:52 PM, Satan wrote: Depends on how good your therapist/counsellor is. If you live in the UK, go and see your GP about it and he or she will refer you to one for free, and it won't cost your parents a penny.Daang, I don't live in the UK, nor do I know what a GP is, but I assume it's (like?) a school cousellor.
GP is a doctor.
At 3/6/14 08:24 PM, SCTE3 wrote:At 3/6/14 08:22 PM, Lepy wrote: That's a terrific point. I'll definitely consider that. The only thing is, what do I do in the case where I'm just wasting my time but I feel bad anyway? Just sit through it?Should be honest with them about it and see if they can still try to find a way to help. Keeping a diary could also help, sounds dumb but sometimes writing down your thoughts can help you feel better.
Oh yeah, I've heard that diaries help. Sometimes I'll write stuff down in my phone's notes (definitely keep a jailbreak tweak around to keep a passwork lock on my notes app). It kinda helps honestly, but I think that I'm really just looking for a bigger answer to magically turn me into a happy, functioning member of the Human race. Not sure if said bigger answer exists, though.
At 3/6/14 08:29 PM, Lepy wrote: Oh yeah, I've heard that diaries help. Sometimes I'll write stuff down in my phone's notes (definitely keep a jailbreak tweak around to keep a passwork lock on my notes app). It kinda helps honestly, but I think that I'm really just looking for a bigger answer to magically turn me into a happy, functioning member of the Human race. Not sure if said bigger answer exists, though.
You might get recommend to trying anti-depressant medications. That or maybe a change in lifestyle could help, make a few new friends, talk to more people that like the same stuff you do.
I had good results from therapy but it depends on a variety of things. You have to put in effort on your part and try the things that your therapist suggests outside of therapy. You also need a decent therapist. Give it a shot though, what's the worse that could happen?
At 3/6/14 08:24 PM, Lepy wrote: Daang, I don't live in the UK, nor do I know what a GP is, but I assume it's (like?) a school cousellor.
General Practitioner
Yes and no. Yes, it does help a lot of people. However, since any shmuck with a higher intelligence than normal people can do it, even a homeless guy, it's not worth paying 300 dollars an hour when you can just talk to a friend or two and solve all your problems for free.
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At 3/6/14 08:22 PM, Lepy wrote: That's a terrific point. I'll definitely consider that. The only thing is, what do I do in the case where I'm just wasting my time but I feel bad anyway? Just sit through it?
You can always decide not to make the next appointment. Most general therapists have you pay on an appointment-by-appointment basis so you can stop whenever you want without losing money.
The effectiveness of therapy depends a lot on the person and the problem. What's nice about a therapist is that they'll sit there and listen to whatever you have to say without the risk of any negative consequences so long as they don't think you're a danger to yourself or others. You can tell them your most embarrassing secrets, and they'll listen without shaming you because that's what you're paying them to do and because they've probably heard worse. Unlike most friends and family members, they'll listen to you indefinitely so long as you keep paying them. And also unlike most friends and family members, they went to school for four or more years (plus all the time they've spent as a therapist) to learn how to deal with problems like yours (whatever your problems may be) so their advice is generally better.
The important thing to acknowledge is that it's not magical cure. There is no magical cure. They're not going to solve your problems for you. Their job is to help you find a way to solve those problems for yourself. What you're paying for is someone with significantly more experience than your buddy or your brother or whoever. So if you do end up trying it, stick with it for a little while even if it seems to be ineffective at first.
I say go for it. It's worth a shot.
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Maybe, depending who you go to and your personality. First I'm going to be clear that I'm NOT talking about psychiatrists. It is a psychiatrist's job to find anything they can diagnose you with and push pills on you in a quick in and out visit. You MAY be able to be helped by a therapist, but they benefit by getting you to come back as many times as possible. If you feel better, why would you come back? On the flipside, if they come off as too useless, you also won't return. All they're gonna do is have you talk to them and then ask you why you feel that way or why you did this or that. They probably won't help you at all. Want the ”therapy experience” without wasting time and money? Just question every single thing you do or feel, and maybe bitch about your problems online.
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Therapy is only good if the people actually understand how you feel.
I tried therapy and councelling multiple times and they were absolutely useless, in some cases they made it worse. However I then spoke to some people from Newgrounds privately who would become friends and they were able to help me, as they actually understood how I was feeling.
You may find like me that some friends online will be able to help you far more than people who sit at a desk and read from a book. Especially about depression, "professionals" don't know anything about depression, it is a fact. If you want help with that find someone who suffers from depression themselves and you will find they will be able to help you.
The last "professional" who saw me claimed I was only seeing him so I could get free drugs. That is a true quote, and it pretty much sums up the entire "profession", people with no idea who make completely unfounded and incorrect assumptions based on their own flawed views. and "facts" (as an extra note of how incorrect he was, not only was I not wanting to get drugs for it, but the drugs I did get for depression a few years previously just made me drowsy so I refused to take anymore, so the only pills I take are occasional pain medication when needed. But you know, professionals know best! I'm a drug addict apparently.)
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At 3/6/14 07:31 PM, Lepy wrote: Whaddya think, Newgrounds?
I think if you find a good therapist it should work, if you don't then at least you gave it a shot. If you don't feel like spending money on something that might not help, you could try finding someone IRL that you can talk to, who shares your thoughts and doubts and becomes an indispensable interaction in the tackling of any existential dilemmas. That search for purpose sounds like a phase we all go through, but if you need help getting through it - go for it
ive been going to therapy once a week. its great brah, really clears up your problems.
however you might fall in love with your therapist.
this is common
At 3/6/14 08:22 PM, Lepy wrote:At 3/6/14 08:10 PM, SCTE3 wrote:That's a terrific point. I'll definitely consider that. The only thing is, what do I do in the case where I'm just wasting my time but I feel bad anyway? Just sit through it?At 3/6/14 08:06 PM, GingerGymnast wrote: I think if you go in with a clear outcome of what you'd like to get out of it, then it can be useful. If you go in with the intention of just to talk about why you think you're garbage, then you'd be wasting your time. The idea is to get passed all that junk, not reinforce it.This. If you still feel like crap afterwards and keeping feeling down 24/7 even with someone listening to you and trying to get you help then you're wasting time.
I think you're asking a really good question. Have you considered looking into the self help section of the book stores? Maybe something in there can help you look at yourself and the world in a new way.
I'll be honest - you don't sound like a crazy person who need medication. You come across as someone who is genuinely looking for some help and advice. Medication should be your last option.
Maybe look around for something out there where you can better understand yourself.
At 3/6/14 08:26 PM, Satan wrote:
GP is a doctor.
GP = General Practitioner (a.k.a Doctor)
Also consider that a lot of therapists' jobs are not to give you advice at all. there are some disciplines that do not ask questions, do not probe at all - just sit there and listen and allow you to come to your own conclusion. Other psychologists do their best to push you in a certain direction.
On the other hand, simply being around other positive people can help you see things in a new way. I think what you're looking for is how to change the way you see the world and how you relate to it. Look to people who are doing great and make friends with them, ask them questions. I think there might be cheaper methods than therapy
At 3/6/14 07:31 PM, Lepy wrote: I'm afraid they'll just label me with ADD or ADHD or depression and take more and more of my parents' money.
They can diagnose you with a problem and recommend medication, but the decision is ultimately yours. Not too many therapists will say "YOU NEED THIS PILL OR YOU'LL DIE," or anything, it's more along the lines of "This would be beneficial for your treatment." Though it's always fine to get a second opinion if you think your therapist may be trying to make a quick buck or something.
if you believe that you are going to be costing your parents a lit of money make sure that they get a health insurance plan that is based around the idea of therepy...
a few hundred dollars dumped into a health insurance plan and 3 months later typically you can go to the therepist up to 10 times a year for things, and at the going rate of 200$ an hour for someone to listen to you... and the typical season lasting 1-3 hours... and the insurance costing 400-600$ a year...
well... i think your parents would kiss you and buy you food with how much you are saving them by the investment... OH
and you can send your mom off to the spa, your dad off to the gym, and you bet your ass that they will like you a little more with that...
as they de-stress and smile more, you may also find your self smiling more ^.^
or you know.. im free ;)
call me toxie 0.~
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At 3/6/14 07:31 PM, Lepy wrote:
I have stories and things to talk about and my self esteem is incredibly low, but I don't have a single person I'm comfortable telling all that to.
Then why do you tell us?
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Depends entirely on what "It" is and how much of "It" you have! :-)
At 3/7/14 07:10 AM, Amaranthus wrote: here I am, thinking you were always in a good mood.
you of all people, i would have thought that you would have understood the idea that people wear masks to hide their identity and feelings
call me toxie 0.~
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Yes. But don't tell them too much or they'll shove a bunch of pills down your throat.
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