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Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:11:33

I find it very funny someone can get scouted on here for doing GMod art or SFM art, but not Second Life. At least in Second Life 100% of content use to make the images is user created. Most stuff on SFM & Gmod is made by someone else and just a screen capture like from some video game. Literally there is multiple websites made with people doing nothing more then ripping models and items out of video games for use in both.

Yet Second Life which is 100% user created content. Meaning the textures, prims, sculpties, and mesh are created by a person and not some corporation for mass use for something copyrighted and protected. Meaning what you using to create the images as I have done you own. Unlike GMod and SFM which is all ripped from some other source.

So why is it GMod and SFM people are getting scouted on here and not SL artist?


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:18:26

I have never seen anything made in Gmod in the art portal and none showed up in searching "gmod," can you link to examples?

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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:18:49

Would you care to provide the in a link of the artist in question?
If his art is not made by his hands he should not have been scouted.

The artist that has scouted this guy will most probably also be un-scouted for making a wrong scout.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:21:12

Here is one example I know for a fact it is Gmod cause I know the people who ported the two models you see and the background into gmod and sfm. http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/sscollab/hot-stuff-from-the-normandy?context=ratings:a.category:3d-art.offset:0

There are others I will post links once I get them all.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:28:51

At 1/23/14 09:21 PM, NemisXue wrote: Here is one example I know for a fact it is Gmod cause I know the people who ported the two models you see and the background into gmod and sfm. http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/sscollab/hot-stuff-from-the-

it actually looks like the artist in question is a 3d artist, and made the underwear himself.
I think he could have explained better about what is his oc, and what is not.
But other than that i dont see any problem, im not an art mod however...


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:35:33

At 1/23/14 09:28 PM, Flowers10 wrote:
At 1/23/14 09:21 PM, NemisXue wrote: Here is one example I know for a fact it is Gmod cause I know the people who ported the two models you see and the background into gmod and sfm. http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/sscollab/hot-stuff-from-the-
it actually looks like the artist in question is a 3d artist, and made the underwear himself.
I think he could have explained better about what is his oc, and what is not.
But other than that i dont see any problem, im not an art mod however...

If you played mass effect you know that is the underwear female shepard wears in the sex scene. I can provide a link to both models and the map but you must be a login to view them on https://digitalero.org/


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:35:51

At 1/23/14 09:11 PM, NemisXue wrote: I find it very funny someone can get scouted on here for doing GMod art or SFM art,

No they don't, they get deleted.

At 1/23/14 09:21 PM, NemisXue wrote: Here is one example I know for a fact it is Gmod cause I know the people who ported the two models you see and the background into gmod and sfm. http://www.newgrounds.com/art/view/sscollab/hot-stuff-from-the-normandy?context=ratings:a.category:3d-art.offset:0

... I'm looking at a pair of arses. How are these GMod exactly?

There are others I will post links once I get them all.

Go ahead.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:36:40

At 1/23/14 09:35 PM, NemisXue wrote: If you played mass effect you know that is the underwear female shepard wears in the sex scene. I can provide a link to both models and the map but you must be a login to view them on https://digitalero.org/

Just post a screenshot, nobody's going to create an account.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:40:39

At 1/23/14 09:36 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/23/14 09:35 PM, NemisXue wrote: If you played mass effect you know that is the underwear female shepard wears in the sex scene. I can provide a link to both models and the map but you must be a login to view them on https://digitalero.org/
Just post a screenshot, nobody's going to create an account.

Theres the background on the steam workshop for gmod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=127814245


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:45:00

At 1/23/14 09:40 PM, NemisXue wrote: Theres the background on the steam workshop for gmod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=127814245

What about the models themselves? You said they're from a game.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:48:48

At 1/23/14 09:45 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/23/14 09:40 PM, NemisXue wrote: Theres the background on the steam workshop for gmod http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=127814245
What about the models themselves? You said they're from a game.

Mass Effect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWmURStE7-8

The blue model is this one

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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:52:24

And you can see that underwear their cliaming they made is also from the game from this screenshot taken out of it http://i.imgur.com/zknJ2.jpg I know the model exist cause back when I was using gmod I had it installed just forget if I got it off facepunch or digitalero.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 21:56:10

At 1/23/14 09:48 PM, NemisXue wrote: Mass Effect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWmURStE7-8
The blue model is this one

I really have no idea what to make of this. People make fan-art all the time, and the other guy's submissions look like they made them himself.

The only thing that would sway me is if you could pull out that underwear design from somewhere, otherwise I fail to see how anything you've shown proves they're stolen, other than "there's a scene where they have less clothes on".

Also can you not report people's sculptures as photographs, please. They're allowed.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 22:06:28

At 1/23/14 09:56 PM, TurkeyOnAStick wrote:
At 1/23/14 09:48 PM, NemisXue wrote: Mass Effect http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWmURStE7-8
The blue model is this one
I really have no idea what to make of this. People make fan-art all the time, and the other guy's submissions look like they made them himself.

The only thing that would sway me is if you could pull out that underwear design from somewhere, otherwise I fail to see how anything you've shown proves they're stolen, other than "there's a scene where they have less clothes on".

Also can you not report people's sculptures as photographs, please. They're allowed.

Then your clearly ignoring the fact that their GMod and SFM content being on the site for certian people and playing favorites such a bioist system Newground has for what is consider art and what isn't.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 22:59:33

The person in question here does mod but his work extremely basic and lack luster.

The underwear is part of the base model of Female Shepard.

Screenshot of her in game without any 3D assets.

A high resolution texture mod.

A diffuse map of an alternate high res mod.

So technically all this person did was add that red strip which is in poor form in my opinion.

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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-23 23:24:34

Said user has been suspected to modify templates slighty to post them before, but there was no proof back then. So... if evidence has been found now, that's helping the mods a lot. But you made it sound like the art portal is full of this stuff, while in fact there is one so far and if it turns out that you're right, he will be treated like an art thief, while your work is just not getting you scouted, most likely.

The problem is that you didn't model the avatars, didn't create the backgrounds and if I understood you correctly in your previous thread, did model some of the clothing and accessoires while some of it has been done by other users that just gave you permission. See, that's not art theft since you are allowed to use them, but it's still not your original work. Chances this will be scouted are low and if that happens, I am not sure how the art mods will react. Of course you can share your images in your profile's art tab, newspost and the forums, it just won't show up in the art portal. Unscouted art can be seen by already scouted artists in the so-called "unscouted section" however.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-24 05:42:02

At 1/23/14 10:06 PM, NemisXue wrote: Then your clearly ignoring the fact that their GMod and SFM content being on the site for certian people and playing favorites such a bioist system Newground has for what is consider art and what isn't.

I will delete it because Cairos showed it's a mildy adjusted skin.

... but the way you handle the situation is terrible.

You think this is (bioist) biased? Get real.
I don't delete ANYTHING unless there's a shred of evidence. That's FAIR. I trust noone's opinion over somebody else's unless you can convincingly show it isn't there's, because removing unstolen artwork is far more damaging to people than keeping stuff we can't prove has been copied, traced or stolen.

I have no reason to keep SScollab or any user in or out of the portal, other than the state of their submissions.

And you kick off the thread suggesting that GMod and other models is rife in the portal - when it's only a single user who you didn't even report.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-01-24 12:52:48

Theres a lot of talk when matters are really simple.

If you are the one who sculpted the porn shit you have in ur gallery , its yours and you can claim its your "art" because you crafted it.

If it isnt sculpted by you , no matter if the parts are created by a user or a company , its not your craft and it cannot be considered as a valid addition to any "art gallery" anywhere. From what i understand , what you have in your gallery equals to screenshots of the Character Creation process in an rpg game or something. To your defence you keep saying that its made of individual users , so what? Is this supposed to justify it as your own , copyrighted creation?

And if you dont like the site just go...No one forces you to stay or like it. You are vomiting drama all over the place about how people dont recognize your "art" and shit. If you were modest about it and you didnt try to pass as some bigshot artist whose work equals those of someone who actually creates his own stuff from scratch , chances are you wouldnt have a problem in the first place. -_-

So yeah , shut up already.

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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-02-04 09:34:23

At 1/24/14 12:52 PM, Kkylimos wrote: Theres a lot of talk when matters are really simple.

If you are the one who sculpted the porn shit you have in ur gallery , its yours and you can claim its your "art" because you crafted it.

If it isnt sculpted by you , no matter if the parts are created by a user or a company , its not your craft and it cannot be considered as a valid addition to any "art gallery" anywhere. From what i understand , what you have in your gallery equals to screenshots of the Character Creation process in an rpg game or something. To your defence you keep saying that its made of individual users , so what? Is this supposed to justify it as your own , copyrighted creation?

And if you dont like the site just go...No one forces you to stay or like it. You are vomiting drama all over the place about how people dont recognize your "art" and shit. If you were modest about it and you didnt try to pass as some bigshot artist whose work equals those of someone who actually creates his own stuff from scratch , chances are you wouldnt have a problem in the first place. -_-

So yeah , shut up already.

LISTEN UP HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT STAIN! All you fucks claiming Second Life creators and people like me aren't artist. Are afraid of us cause you know what Second Life shit and my shit is built from the ground up by people like me. It isn't like some character creation bullshit in some game like WOW or APB. In Second Life they have an ingame build system that is no different from what I and many others who are in Second Life was taught on at Full Sail or any other college, to use to create video games, 3D models, and CG.

Second Life isn't some bs where they are like here we made this give us your money. Everything in it is created from the ground up by users like me and scripted by people like me. It is a process of having to either, sculpting, making the mesh, making the prims, making the textures, scripting it, and then putting it all together inworld and getting it to work.

If your all too closed minded to see that, then I feel sorry for you cause you know what there is alot more work and time put into making these images, characters,outfit, item, etc in Second Life then you all would like to believe. If any of you jion up and go on that, "Oh I jioned Sl and there was shop and shit where I could buy stuff so that means none of it is created and this is just a fancy character creation system." then you obviously didn't check out the build system and all the info that is out there on how to create your OWN CONTENT in Second Life.


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Response to Gmod= Art But Not Second Life? 2014-02-04 09:37:05

At 2/4/14 09:34 AM, NemisXue wrote: LISTEN UP HERE YOU LITTLE SHIT STAIN! All you fucks claiming ...

Oh, go away. If that's how you think you should talk to people, then you're not worth listening to.


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