Most humane execution.

[EKublai]

I know a lot of us are against the death penalty on principle, but say we had to have executions.
Lets start with two assumptions.
The purpose of the death penalty is primarily to remove individuals who are too dangerous to keep alive.
Second, the death penalty is not state sponsored revenge.
Therefore, the most humane death penalty is the best death penalty.
Finally, the best death penalty is sedation followed by a decimation of the head (ie. crushed by 10-ton block of lead).

Discuss.

[Prinzy2]

Either an OD of morphine or the guillotine.

Death by snoosnoo would be my choice of death.

[X-Gary-Gigax-X]

Weepy lawyers will explain that there is no such thing as a humane death, and in their defense, they might be right.

Regardless of lawyers, why should we place so much care and thought for a person we are about to execute...? It seems like a waste of time and effort, as the person would soon be dead. Even if the person's feelings were brought into consideration, execution is primarily used for murderers. One could make a sound case that they already sealed their fate when they took a human life, something irreplaceable and irreparable.

[Korriken]

Best execution is to throw them off a cliff.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

Death By Snu Snu

[EKublai]

At 1/19/14 05:41 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: Weepy lawyers will explain that there is no such thing as a humane death, and in their defense, they might be right.

Regardless of lawyers, why should we place so much care and thought for a person we are about to execute...? It seems like a waste of time and effort, as the person would soon be dead. Even if the person's feelings were brought into consideration, execution is primarily used for murderers. One could make a sound case that they already sealed their fate when they took a human life, something irreplaceable and irreparable.

However, if we cause pain to the sentenced man, that will be interpreted as the state exacting revenge, when the idea of our justice system is to remove the problematic element for an otherwise peaceful society.

[Light]

If we assume that the death penalty is morally permissible(It isn't, of course), then I'd say that the best way to carry out that method of punishment is by subjecting the convicted criminal to a fatal amount of carbon monoxide. Carbon monoxide poisoning is obviously somewhat uncomfortable but the symptoms associated with acute CO poisoning are comparable to the symptoms associated with the flu.

It'll basically feel as if you suddenly developed a strong flu infection before dying. I'd say that's not too bad.

[Entice]

Why not a machine that can drive a large bolt into the back of the head like they do with cattle? It'd destroy the brain fast enough so that no pain would be felt, and if it was done right it'd leave the face intact (in case the family cares for some reason).

[Camarohusky]

I don't think the death penalty in any form is an effective, or cost effective method of achieving any stated penal goal.

But, if we MUST have it, let's make a terrible one. A soft easy death is one type of deterrent. The old Venetian torture executions (death by flaying, the rack, and so on) is an entirely different animal.

My opposition to the death penalty is entirely functional, not moral. (I ain't one of those weepy types.)

[Saen]

I'm against the death penalty simply because of the sheer amount death penalty trials cost tax payers.

[Light]

At 1/19/14 11:19 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

My opposition to the death penalty is entirely functional, not moral. (I ain't one of those weepy types.)

That hurts, man.

[NeonSpider]

Some kind of death where they're either rendered slowly less conscious until painless death or where they're hyped up on so many drugs they're so high they feel no pain and then die from OD while completely unaware.

[NightmareWitch]

Put them to sleep then bleed out.

[leanlifter1]

At 1/19/14 05:14 PM, EKublai wrote:

Finally, the best death penalty is sedation followed by a decimation of the head (ie. crushed by 10-ton block of lead).

Discuss.

Why the hell would you have to initiate uncalled for violence on an already dead person with a 10 ton piece of lead to the head ? This is a preposterous notion though I am not an expert on death I would say this is highly inefficient and uncalled for method to remove undesirables from society. Further since the Judicial system in America advocates Christianity and as far as I know only God can pass final judgment on weather people live or die would this not be an extreme sin and contradiction on the very core values the government and church try to uphold through the word of God ?

[NightmareWitch]

At 1/21/14 12:55 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: This is a preposterous notion though I am not an expert on death I would say this is highly inefficient and uncalled for method to remove undesirables from society.

We could pay the poor to clean the brain juice and skull fragments from the ground?

[leanlifter1]

At 1/21/14 01:02 AM, NightmareWitch wrote:

At 1/21/14 12:55 AM, leanlifter1 wrote: This is a preposterous notion though I am not an expert on death I would say this is highly inefficient and uncalled for method to remove undesirables from society.

We could pay the poor to clean the brain juice and skull fragments from the ground?

Youe jaded insolence is remarkable.

[All-American-Badass]

Death by firing squad, if done correctly they'd be dead before they can feel pain.

[orangebomb]

Sadly, a concept like Superjail!, would be considered either impossible or immoral by human standards, and certainly by the bleeding hearts out there, the best way to deal with criminals who commits heinous acts against either another person or our country would be the classic electric chair, cost be damned. Someone who commit these heinous acts in cold blood deserves to have their life snuffed out on principle alone.

[leanlifter1]

At 1/21/14 12:47 PM, orangebomb wrote: Sadly, a concept like Superjail!, would be considered either impossible or immoral by human standards, and certainly by the bleeding hearts out there, the best way to deal with criminals who commits heinous acts against either another person or our country would be the classic electric chair, cost be damned. Someone who commit these heinous acts in cold blood deserves to have their life snuffed out on principle alone.

Death is an easy and quick way out when they could have been put to work in a life of servitude to pay back some of the good karma they stole from the good people.

[Korriken]

At 1/21/14 01:22 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

Death is an easy and quick way out when they could have been put to work in a life of servitude to pay back some of the good karma they stole from the good people.

You can't force a person to work and do a good job. you can lock a person in a room with something they "have" to do and unless you have some method of coercing them to work, they can simply sit in a corner and do nothing.

Also, the Bible in many places state for the Jews to use the death penalty for certain crimes. If God didn't want people to execute criminals, he would have forbade it entirely.

And as far a morals go. There is no such thing as a universal moral code. What is moral to one person is immoral to another. I personally find most of today's music to be immoral trash with little semblance of musical talent, garbage spewed out by a corporate machine to poison and dull the minds of the masses. Other people lap that shit up like a dope addict munches little debbie cakes.

[leanlifter1]

At 1/21/14 02:29 PM, Korriken wrote:

You can't force a person to work and do a good job. you can lock a person in a room with something they "have" to do and unless you have some method of coercing them to work, they can simply sit in a corner and do nothing.

Sigh you have no idea how Prison works. Inmates get few privileges like canteen, phone, rec time, and work yes work is a privilege and is highly sought after by inmates.

Also, the Bible in many places state for the Jews to use the death penalty for certain crimes. If God didn't want people to execute criminals, he would have forbade it entirely.

LOL that laughable at best.

And as far a morals go. There is no such thing as a universal moral code.

Yes there is. killing an infant is unmoral this is universally considered to be true by rational people.

What is moral to one person is immoral to another.

Your talking about opinion's not morals.

I personally find most of today's music to be immoral trash with little semblance of musical talent, garbage spewed out by a corporate machine to poison and dull the minds of the masses. Other people lap that shit up like a dope addict munches little debbie cakes.

Once again you are conflicting personal opinion and taste with the word moral.

[orangebomb]

At 1/21/14 01:22 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Death is an easy and quick way out when they could have been put to work in a life of servitude to pay back some of the good karma they stole from the good people.

Easy for you to say that, but the vast majority of prisoners on death row or life in prison will really amount to nothing in the grand scheme of things. Not all of them are like Stanley "Tookie" Williams who made charitable and anti-gang works while on death row, hollow as it was. Just as you can't force people to work and expect any amount of quality from it, you can't exactly expect these prisoners to amount to anything of worth on the inside.

Frankly, they're better off dead.

[Camarohusky]

At 1/21/14 02:50 PM, leanlifter1 wrote: Sigh you have no idea how Prison works. Inmates get few privileges like canteen, phone, rec time, and work yes work is a privilege and is highly sought after by inmates.

That's because they get paid and get privileges because of the work. Merely forcing them to work without either a carrot or a stick will have limited success.

Yes there is. killing an infant is unmoral this is universally considered to be true by rational people.

Not if killing the infant allows the rest of your family to eat.

Your talking about opinion's not morals.

Morals are based in opinion.

[Korriken]

At 1/21/14 02:50 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:

Sigh you have no idea how Prison works. Inmates get few privileges like canteen, phone, rec time, and work yes work is a privilege and is highly sought after by inmates.

Maybe, but work is something they can do, not something they are forced to do. I know well enough how prisons work. the privilege is being able to work gets them a small amount of money to get their smokes and snacks with. Those who have no inclination to do anything won't work. Trying to force them into working without compensation will have far different reactions.

LOL that laughable at best.

When you have no counter argument, laugh. All too common of a tactic.

Yes there is. killing an infant is unmoral this is universally considered to be true by rational people.

Still not universal. That's why abortion is still a debated issue.

Your talking about opinion's not morals.

I wouldn't imagine you would be able to tell the difference anyway.

Once again you are conflicting personal opinion and taste with the word moral.

poisoning minds is immoral, at least to me.

[WallofYawn]

Hit by a train or falling from a really tall building would probably be the quickest and most painless. I guess lethal injection is ok, but it causes psychological pain and still takes time. At least with the other two you: 1. don't really gotta think about it. and 2. it'll be over with before you even have a chance to think about it.

[supergandhi64]

Condoning Death Penalty In Any Way Shape Or Form Is An Abomination In The Eyes Of God . . . Exodus 20:13 "You Shall Not Murder"

--supergandhi64

[morefngdbs]

At 1/22/14 10:03 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: Condoning Death Penalty In Any Way Shape Or Form Is An Abomination In The Eyes Of God . . . Exodus 20:13 "You Shall Not Murder"

;;;
If god didn't want us to kill each other, he wouldn't have wired us to like doing it. If you look at the world as a whole it is being constantly inflicted on so many, we might as well turn it back into a sport !

Secondly I have only 1 problem with the death penalty , & that is our inability to reverse the sentence once its carried out.

SO for those irrefutable cases where it is not only proven it is undeniable , I'm in favour of several different ways should be available.
1- If the prisoner has organs that could be used to help others , they become living organ banks.... they won't last long once the organs are gone ...its my favourite execution method, lets call it the "Giving back to some members of society"

2- If the prisoners a wreck,with a disease, or organs in bad shape from drug use etc. but could still be used for experimentation ....to say test out new surgical techniques for their aliment, or test drugs on for their disease etc. To give researchers those 'human guinea pigs' they so desperately need , we could call that "Giving back to society as a whole"

3- Then there are those who won't be 'useful' for those things. For these individuals , I believe they still have something to give, why not give them a choice , something entertaining for those who wish to watch , they can participate in a hunger games type contest. But instead of going free they get to die via a black capsule (surely the CIA has some spares they give their agents sitting on a shelf somewhere) Or die in an audience selected poll , by fun dramatic things (telecast live on the internet of course) like being strapped to a cannon (I've always wondered what that would look like) or fed to say komodo dragons. & this would be Giving us something to watch , besides ULTRA LAME hockey, football, baseball ...or any of those other 'ball' type stupid games.

Yes siree, 3 real contributions to society as a whole , made by those who have taken away so much from others.
Because all any of us really own, all we really have in this world is a very short allotment of time to do stuff in & then no matter what we have acquired, built, created is lost to us when we die. So having those who have taken that away from others pay in any of the above ways bothers me not all all.

All that would really bother me , is if it was ever done to an innocent, so we have to be sure, I mean 150% positive, or they just sit in limbo (aka jail) .

hmmm I wonder if the corpses could be used as animal feed say for the fur trade , like a mink farm

[Camarohusky]

At 1/22/14 10:03 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: Condoning Death Penalty In Any Way Shape Or Form Is An Abomination In The Eyes Of God . . . Exodus 20:13 "You Shall Not Murder"

--supergandhi64

Me thinks you should read Deuteronomy and numbers. God sanctioned murder galore. Nay, God ordered murder.

[supergandhi64]

At 1/22/14 11:13 AM, morefngdbs wrote:

At 1/22/14 10:03 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: Condoning Death Penalty In Any Way Shape Or Form Is An Abomination In The Eyes Of God . . . Exodus 20:13 "You Shall Not Murder"

;;;
If god didn't want us to kill each other, he wouldn't have wired us to like doing it. If you look at the world as a whole it is being constantly inflicted on so many, we might as well turn it back into a sport !

Can You Cite Any Credible Source Which Can Document That People Like To Kill Each Other? Just Because There's Conflict In The World It Isn't Necessarily Because People Like Conflicts. Regardless Of Whether God "Wired" People Into Enjoying To Kill Each Other Who Says God Would Have To Allow Us To

At 1/22/14 11:19 AM, Camarohusky wrote: Me thinks you should read Deuteronomy and numbers. God sanctioned murder galore. Nay, God ordered murder.

It Goes Without Saying That God Can Judge Humans . . . Death Penalties Are Sentenced By Human Judges Though

--supergandhi64

[Kylpault]

At 1/19/14 05:41 PM, X-Gary-Gigax-X wrote: Weepy lawyers will explain that there is no such thing as a humane death, and in their defense, they might be right.

Regardless of lawyers, why should we place so much care and thought for a person we are about to execute...? It seems like a waste of time and effort, as the person would soon be dead. Even if the person's feelings were brought into consideration, execution is primarily used for murderers. One could make a sound case that they already sealed their fate when they took a human life, something irreplaceable and irreparable.

Not stating my opinion on whether the death penalty is moral, the 5th Amendment prevents cruel and unusual punishment. Should a person's punishment be deemed worthy of an execution, we still need to stop ourselves from stooping too low. An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

There's also the possibility of an innocent man getting the death penalty. We have to admit that as hard as we try to make our justice system accurate, it isn't currently possible to make it 100% accurate. I can't provide an accurate statistic on the odds of this happening since an unknown amount of the convicted innocent never are proven innocent, though it is possible.