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Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 02:30:33 Reply

http://phenomena.nationalgeographic.com/2013/02/25/neurons-could-outlive-the-bodies-that-contain-them/

Most of your body is younger than you are. The cells on the topmost layer of your skin are around two weeks old, and soon to die. Your oldest red blood cells are around four months old. Your liver’s cells will live for around 10 to 17 months old before being replaced. All across your organs, cells are being produced and destroyed. They have an expiry date.

But do neurons have a maximum lifespan, just like skin, blood or liver cells? Yes, obviously, they die when you die, but what if you kept on living? That’s not a far-fetched question at a time when medical and technological advances promise to prolong our lives well past their usual boundaries. Would we reach a point when our neurons give up before our bodies do?

Lorenzo Magrassi, a neurosurgeon at the University of Pavia, thinks not. He recently transplanted neuron-making cells from mouse embryos into the developing brains of longer-lived rats. These cells matured into neurons that looked like mouse neurons… but with rat lifespans. They survived for up to 36 months, around twice as long as they normally do in their native mouse brains.

“Neurons do not have a fixed lifespan,” says Magrassi. “They may survive forever. It’s the body that contains them that die. If you put them in a longer-living body, they survive as long as the new body allows them to. It increases our hope that extending lifespan will not necessarily result in brain depleted of neurons.”

good news for all you transhumanists if the preceding information holds up. As long as you have your neurons you can essentially "be" in any body you want to and "you" in all technicality will survive.
So when your body wears out what body would you request to be put into?


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 02:53:14 Reply

i want to be put into the healthiest bear on earth...

then im a motherfucking bear
i think like a human and talk like a human, but im a bear

a mother fucking bear

brown

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 03:09:30 Reply

Like everyone knows a bear when they see one, and its an instant notion of either fear or pause
A bull is sorta like yeah theres a fucking bull
Shark, only in the sea...
A rino, i dont want to weigh more then a SUV
A human? Fuck that i lived 92 years as a human already, time to try something new
A bird of some kind, i dont want to be a bird... Fuck that

I want to be a MOTHER.... FUCKING... BEAR
you see a bear and ypu say there is a motherfucking bear
Not ooooooohhh dude theres a bear right infront of me
No
Its:
AHHHHHHHHHH FUCK! MOTHERFUCKING BEAR AHHHHHHH as i rip the person apart with my paws and maul the fuck out of his friends.

Why?

Im a mother fucking bear!

THATS FUCKING WHY!


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 04:33:59 Reply

Are you trying to summon Ultrabear?


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 04:36:24 Reply

The oldest cell in your body is your oldest memory apparently :) aint that sweet.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 05:46:47 Reply

a lot of people are obsessed with the idea of unnaturally prolonging their lifespan which is an abomination in the eyes of god . . . they probably do this because they don't love jesus & fear death where only eternal damnation awaits them. get your wits together! if you accept jesus in your heart you won't have to put your brain in a jar to prolong the inevitable since you'll be reborn in the kingdom of heaven lol

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 07:59:58 Reply

I knew it, souls do exist!

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 08:57:17 Reply

At 12/10/13 05:46 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: a lot of people are obsessed with the idea of unnaturally prolonging their lifespan which is an abomination in the eyes of god . . . they probably do this because they don't love jesus & fear death where only eternal damnation awaits them. get your wits together! if you accept jesus in your heart you won't have to put your brain in a jar to prolong the inevitable since you'll be reborn in the kingdom of heaven lol

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Ironically being reborn means starting anew. Why lose everything you have and begin anew if you can continue to go on indefinitely.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 09:28:41 Reply

At 12/10/13 04:36 AM, Fim wrote: The oldest cell in your body is your oldest memory apparently :) aint that sweet.

memories aren't cells buddy

memory storage is a brain wide process

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 10:24:19 Reply

At 12/10/13 08:57 AM, Dew wrote:
At 12/10/13 05:46 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: a lot of people are obsessed with the idea of unnaturally prolonging their lifespan which is an abomination in the eyes of god . . . they probably do this because they don't love jesus & fear death where only eternal damnation awaits them. get your wits together! if you accept jesus in your heart you won't have to put your brain in a jar to prolong the inevitable since you'll be reborn in the kingdom of heaven lol

--supergandhi64
Ironically being reborn means starting anew. Why lose everything you have and begin anew if you can continue to go on indefinitely.

What if life is not something that was meant to be extended or even manipulated? What if life is supposed to be timed?

Sorry if I sound philosophical.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 10:40:43 Reply

At 12/10/13 08:57 AM, Dew wrote:
At 12/10/13 05:46 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: a lot of people are obsessed with the idea of unnaturally prolonging their lifespan which is an abomination in the eyes of god . . . they probably do this because they don't love jesus & fear death where only eternal damnation awaits them. get your wits together! if you accept jesus in your heart you won't have to put your brain in a jar to prolong the inevitable since you'll be reborn in the kingdom of heaven lol

--supergandhi64
Ironically being reborn means starting anew. Why lose everything you have and begin anew if you can continue to go on indefinitely.

you can't go on indefinitely . . . while the time you'll die isn't certain you certainly will die eventually. which isn't even to address the point that living forever on earth you might as well be in purgatory & it isn't comparable to the kingdom of heaven in the least lol

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 14:38:45 Reply

Sweet. We'll be susceptible to neurodegenerative diseases though. It's going to be a while before we're capable of manufacturing adult brains. That's fledgling research.

Here's some stuff that people tend to link in these threads:
SENS
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3D Printing the Human Body

"I think it's reasonable to suppose that one could oscillate between being biologically 20 and biologically 25 indefinitely."
--Aubrey de Grey

Raymond Kurzweil

In a hundred years we might be able to clone an adult Ponce de León just to have him play Tutankhamen in badminton.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 14:42:14 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:38 PM, 24901miles wrote: In a hundred years we might be able to clone an adult Ponce de León just to have him play Tutankhamen in badminton.

Can we create a race of subhumans to do all of our work for us?

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 14:55:32 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:42 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/10/13 02:38 PM, 24901miles wrote: In a hundred years we might be able to clone an adult Ponce de León just to have him play Tutankhamen in badminton.
Can we create a race of subhumans to do all of our work for us?

What, like the South African Apartheid? Like slavery in the United States? The 'engineered fabricant' slaves in Cloud Atlas?

Dunno.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 14:57:43 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:55 PM, 24901miles wrote: What, like the South African Apartheid? Like slavery in the United States? The 'engineered fabricant' slaves in Cloud Atlas?

Nah, more like organic robots that can't do anything but respond to commands and perform menial tasks.

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 15:01:15 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:57 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/10/13 02:55 PM, 24901miles wrote: What, like the South African Apartheid? Like slavery in the United States? The 'engineered fabricant' slaves in Cloud Atlas?
Nah, more like organic robots that can't do anything but respond to commands and perform menial tasks.

What, like Androids? From the Aliens movies, but without the mental abilities. Just looks human to be more comforting to the eye?

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 15:03:02 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:57 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/10/13 02:55 PM, 24901miles wrote: What, like the South African Apartheid? Like slavery in the United States? The 'engineered fabricant' slaves in Cloud Atlas?
Nah, more like organic robots that can't do anything but respond to commands and perform menial tasks.

But then why not just create robots :p


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 15:04:08 Reply

At 12/10/13 03:01 PM, fmn335 wrote: What, like Androids? From the Aliens movies, but without the mental abilities. Just looks human to be more comforting to the eye?

I didn't mean literal robots. I meant that they'd have very limited mental capabilities, as they're engineered to be slaves.
So yeah, basically the same end result I guess.

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 15:05:48 Reply

At 12/10/13 03:03 PM, poxpower wrote: But then why not just create robots :p

I dunno it seems like making retarded people that can't think for themselves would be easier than designing a robot. Plus they could reproduce so you wouldn't have to make more, just feed them.

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 15:44:36 Reply

The problem of neurodegenerative disease and cellular senescence are still major issues.

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 15:50:45 Reply

At 12/10/13 03:03 PM, poxpower wrote:
At 12/10/13 02:57 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/10/13 02:55 PM, 24901miles wrote: What, like the South African Apartheid? Like slavery in the United States? The 'engineered fabricant' slaves in Cloud Atlas?
Nah, more like organic robots that can't do anything but respond to commands and perform menial tasks.
But then why not just create robots :p

Robots like Valkyrie, Asimo, and Atlas? Or like WildCat, MoBee, and Snakebot?

Should they be built to interact with people? Why not just build giant manufacturing centers with robotic distribution?


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 16:08:51 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:38 PM, 24901miles wrote: In a hundred years we might be able to clone an adult Ponce de León just to have him play Tutankhamen in badminton.

i've had it up to here with your god d*mn promises about the future . . . you're like obama during the elections! well obama won & i'm seeing neither "change" nor a real life hatsune miku anywhere! it's been at least a month but i guess that's enough to forget about hatsune miku since apparently king tut is the hip new idol of our generation

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 16:20:39 Reply

At 12/10/13 04:08 PM, supergandhi64 wrote:
At 12/10/13 02:38 PM, 24901miles wrote: In a hundred years we might be able to clone an adult Ponce de León just to have him play Tutankhamen in badminton.
i've had it up to here with your god d*mn promises about the future . . . you're like obama during the elections! well obama won & i'm seeing neither "change" nor a real life hatsune miku anywhere! it's been at least a month but i guess that's enough to forget about hatsune miku since apparently king tut is the hip new idol of our generation

--supergandhi64

The Illuminati already made Hatsune Miku but they're using her to hunt for pirate gold in shipwrecks at the bottom of the ocean.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 19:48:03 Reply

This gonna make the phrase "Brain in a vat" really mean something realistically.

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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 19:57:01 Reply

At 12/10/13 02:38 PM, 24901miles wrote: Raymond Kurzweil

I guess he was overdue for another reputation buffing interview.


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Response to Living with only your neurons... 2013-12-10 20:05:29 Reply

At 12/10/13 04:20 PM, 24901miles wrote: The Illuminati already made Hatsune Miku but they're using her to hunt for pirate gold in shipwrecks at the bottom of the ocean.

photographic evidence

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