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At 12/1/13 09:47 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: Snark directed at what this thread has turned into in general, not you specifically.

Touché lol, quite justified.

FWIW I think most of your posts in this thread have been pretty spot-on.

Tnx b

At 12/1/13 08:32 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I think that many do and many don't.
I'd rather not take my chances if it means reinforcing the power dynamic between men and women.

Sounds fair enough. I mean, everyone's got someone out there so it doesn't really make sense to not be yourself when you're trying to find them.

At 12/1/13 08:44 PM, thatkidkenji wrote:

At 12/1/13 08:41 PM, Zachary wrote:

Bye troll!

Irony.

learn what this word means please

At 12/1/13 08:04 PM, Slint wrote:

At 12/1/13 04:20 PM, Minion777 wrote:

At 12/1/13 04:05 PM, JeremyLokken wrote:

At 11/30/13 06:59 AM, Slint wrote: Females always make shit movies no exceptions ever.

Point Break.

What a shit movie.

Shit taste.

The point is that I mentioned a movie that a female director made on a budget of $24 million, grossing $43.2 million, with well known actors and a decent plot. A movie that is referenced in others movies and TV shows over 50 times since 1991, including Hot Fuzz.

Just because you don't like the movie doesn't mean it isn't half bad. Maybe you don't like female directors?

At 12/1/13 10:51 PM, Natick wrote:

learn what this word means please

Please explain how I used the word incorrectly.

At 12/2/13 12:44 AM, JeremyLokken wrote: The point is

Surfboarding is the lowest form of entertainment.

Point Break just barely ranks above Jhonny Tsunami.

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Yeah, Lost In Translation was a good movie. I admit that. But Bling Ring sucked. You have to admit that too.
Let's just be mature here :D

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At 12/2/13 01:27 PM, Splats wrote: Yeah, Lost In Translation was a good movie. I admit that. But Bling Ring sucked. You have to admit that too.

i don't have to admit to anything since i never saw that film

Let's just be mature here :D

this sentence doesn't make any sense

At 12/2/13 01:33 AM, thatkidkenji wrote: Please explain how I used the word incorrectly.

i guess i have to post the definition again:

"Language device in which the real intent is concealed or contradicted by the literal meaning of words or a situation. Verbal irony, either spoken or written, arises from an awareness of contrast between what is and what ought to be. Dramatic irony, an incongruity in a theatrical work between what is expected and what occurs, depends on the structure of a play rather than its use of words, and it is often created by the audience's awareness of a fate in store for the characters that they themselves do not suspect."

when someone makes a claim, it's common to be asked for some evidence to support it. that isn't trolling and you were not being singled out. when you just say, "it would help if you just looked around", it shows that your argument is weak and that you may be trolling. there is no irony in anything zachary said being that all he asked was for some evidence to support your claim and he wasn't given any. please do not make me have to re-explain this

At 12/2/13 03:59 PM, Natick wrote:

when you just say, "it would help if you just looked around", it shows that your argument is weak

That's a fallacy. If he is seriously concerned about the social pressure that can cause women to give out their numbers to strangers, then he can read the works of Audre Lorde, Bell Hooks, Gloria Steinem, or any sjw on tumblr. "You must educate me!" is the cry of an over-privileged person that is merely looking to stick their foot through whatever evidence is presented, anyways.

there is no irony in anything zachary said

Except the part where called me a troll even though he was trolling.
And speaking of trolling, lmao @ you posting the theatre definition.

At 12/2/13 05:33 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: That's a fallacy. If he is seriously concerned about the social pressure that can cause women to give out their numbers to strangers, then he can read the works of Audre Lorde, Bell Hooks, Gloria Steinem, or any sjw on tumblr.

He's obviously not concerned because you haven't convinced him that he should be

"You must educate me!"

It's more about you defending an assertion that you made. If you're not interested in doing that then okay, but don't act shocked when people don't believe you.

At 12/2/13 05:51 PM, Entice wrote:

He's obviously not concerned because you haven't convinced him that he should be

I have no interest in convincing someone to be a decent human being (and I likely can't).

"You must educate me!"

It's more about you defending an assertion that you made. If you're not interested in doing that then okay, but don't act shocked when people don't believe you.

If someone asserts that Asians score the highest on SATs I don't needthem to "prove it" because I have fingers capable of Googling such information. "You haven't proven it, therefore it's false" is a basic fallacy.

At 12/2/13 06:02 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I have no interest in convincing someone to be a decent human being (and I likely can't).

It's almost laughable that if someone disagrees with you on this subject you don't consider them a decent human being.

If someone asserts that Asians score the highest on SATs I don't need them to "prove it" because I have fingers capable of Googling such information. "You haven't proven it, therefore it's false" is a basic fallacy.

That's not what I said. No one is going to go through the trouble of researching your own argument for you. You were just being dismissive.

At 12/2/13 06:05 PM, Entice wrote:

It's almost laughable that if someone disagrees with you on this subject you don't consider them a decent human being.

Strawman. You can't vaguely say "disagree." He isn't just disagreeing; he's blatantly refusing to acknowledge and oft cited, extensively studied, and regularly reinforced social stigma. Couple that with his outright refusal to look into a woman's perspective on day to day interactions with men...Yeah, he's lacking criteria for decent human being status.

D+

At 12/2/13 06:18 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: He isn't just disagreeing; he's blatantly refusing to acknowledge and oft cited, extensively studied, and regularly reinforced social stigma. Couple that with his outright refusal to look into a woman's perspective on day to day interactions with men...

In other words, he disagrees with you and you attribute it to the above.

At 12/2/13 06:23 PM, Entice wrote:

At 12/2/13 06:18 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: He isn't just disagreeing; he's blatantly refusing to acknowledge and oft cited, extensively studied, and regularly reinforced social stigma. Couple that with his outright refusal to look into a woman's perspective on day to day interactions with men...

In other words, he disagrees with you and you attribute it to the above.

It is not even worth replying to him.

Though it is hilarious that he is claiming there was a fallacy (which never happened) after not providing evidence that back up any of his claims. He expects us to simply believe them because he said them.

Sometimes there are people who are happy living in their own little circlejerk world of misinformation and false truths.

At 12/2/13 05:33 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: That's a fallacy.

stop pretending that you know what big words mean when you clearly don't

If he is seriously concerned about the social pressure that can cause women to give out their numbers to strangers, then he can read the works of Audre Lorde, Bell Hooks, Gloria Steinem, or any sjw on tumblr.

then why didn't you link this

"You must educate me!" is the cry of an over-privileged person that is merely looking to stick their foot through whatever evidence is presented, anyways.

except he never said that and asking for evidence has nothing to do with privilege

Except the part where called me a troll even though he was trolling.

also, look up what trolling means. you can keep shouting this every time someone asks you for clear evidence for but it doesn't mean you're winning the argument or proving anything: exhibit a

At 12/2/13 06:35 PM, Natick wrote:

At 12/2/13 05:33 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: That's a fallacy.

stop pretending that you know what big words mean when you clearly don't

Fallacy isn't a big word - it's only seven letters.

then why didn't you link this

Yes, let me link to people's entire body of work.

"You must educate me!" is the cry of an over-privileged person that is merely looking to stick their foot through whatever evidence is presented, anyways.

except he never said that and asking for evidence has nothing to do with privilege

He is trying to falsify a notion while not even bothering to look into himself. Only people in a position of privilege can do that. I have a strange feeling you don't actually know what privilege is. You're the person who said that "I'm half white so I half contribute to white supremacy" shit, right? Yeah, I'm not at all surprised by your output in this thread.

Except the part where called me a troll even though he was trolling.

also, look up what trolling means.

You are trolling me.

At 12/2/13 06:23 PM, Entice wrote:

At 12/2/13 06:18 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: He isn't just disagreeing; he's blatantly refusing to acknowledge and oft cited, extensively studied, and regularly reinforced social stigma. Couple that with his outright refusal to look into a woman's perspective on day to day interactions with men...

In other words, he disagrees with you and you attribute it to the above.

You keep using "disagree" in the loosest possible sense. You can't "disagree" on a social issue. You can ignore it's realities, which is what he (and I'm guessing you) are doing, but he isn't "disagreeing" in the sense that he came to a different conclusion that I did. That would require some kind of information gathering and he clearly hasn't done that (because he'd so easily prove himself wrong).

At 12/2/13 06:51 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Yes, let me link to people's entire body of work.

it's not like anyone is asking for the dead sea scrolls here so yes, link them next time. that's at least trying to support your claims rather than "go look for it yourself".

He is trying to falsify a notion while not even bothering to look into himself. Only people in a position of privilege can do that. I have a strange feeling you don't actually know what privilege is. You're the person who said that "I'm half white so I half contribute to white supremacy" shit, right? Yeah, I'm not at all surprised by your output in this thread.

nice ad hominems.
and i already contributed to this thread prior to jumping into this argument.

You are trolling me.

no, i'm not. stop digging your own hole.

I'm going to lock this thread because it has become an attack on anyone posting in it by the OP.

To anyone making a thread that involves an open debate in the future, make sure you provide the information needed to continue the discussion.