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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 14:10:04

At 12/1/13 02:04 PM, MadFedora wrote:
At 12/1/13 02:01 PM, beakerboy wrote:
At 11/30/13 06:59 AM, Slint wrote: Females always make shit movies no exceptions ever.
Most* females.

Did you know the Uncharted series was directed by a female?
Movie

If Uncharted isn't movie enough for you, you're fucking retarded.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 14:19:14

At 12/1/13 02:01 PM, beakerboy wrote:
At 11/30/13 06:59 AM, Slint wrote: Females always make shit movies no exceptions ever.
Most* females.

Did you know the Uncharted series was directed by a female?

No exceptions ever like I said and if you think a video game can compare to a fucking movie you have even worse issues than we all know about.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 14:19:49

At 12/1/13 09:35 AM, Splats wrote:
At 12/1/13 09:02 AM, thatkidkenji wrote: Apparently lots of people do. I'm sorry we're not hxc and leet like you.
Nah don't even try. I counted like 5 people being serious in this thread of yours.

Make sure you count the thousands of other threads on other forums as well the thousands of articles they link to and the thousands of comments and the thousands of people who do the research necessary for those discussions to begin with and the thousands of people who participate in the research. And then there's the millions of other non-hxc/non-leet people who may not write, comment on, or start a thread for an article but still care.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 14:32:06

At 12/1/13 02:10 PM, beakerboy wrote:
If Uncharted isn't movie enough for you, you're fucking retarded.

A retard calls other as retard. Irony.

It's a fucking game. Get over yourself.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 16:05:06

At 11/30/13 06:59 AM, Slint wrote: Females always make shit movies no exceptions ever.

Point Break.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 16:20:22

At 12/1/13 04:05 PM, JeremyLokken wrote:
At 11/30/13 06:59 AM, Slint wrote: Females always make shit movies no exceptions ever.
Point Break.

What a shit movie.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 18:39:37

At 12/1/13 09:32 AM, Entice wrote:
At 12/1/13 02:42 AM, thatkidkenji wrote: If I wanted to go on a date with a girl I would find one a dating website instead of picking her up off the street.
Because it's impossible to just meet new people in your social circles, picking up random people on the street and online dating are the only two options.

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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 18:57:38

At 12/1/13 09:32 AM, Entice wrote:
Because it's impossible to just meet new people in your social circles, picking up random people on the street and online dating are the only two options.

You keep rolling the dice in your social circle, I'll stick to the medium that assures I won't be pressuring girls to give me their number because the very nature of our communication insists upon judging our mutual attraction.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 18:58:50

At 12/1/13 06:57 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I won't be pressuring girls to give me their number because the very nature of our communication insists upon judging our mutual attraction.

"Pressuring"?

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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:03:27

At 12/1/13 06:58 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/1/13 06:57 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I won't be pressuring girls to give me their number because the very nature of our communication insists upon judging our mutual attraction.
"Pressuring"?

Yes, there is a such thing as social pressure. Some of it involves women giving their number to men even though they don't find them attractive.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:04:53

At 12/1/13 07:03 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Yes, there is a such thing as social pressure. Some of it involves women giving their number to men even though they don't find them attractive.

...and this necessarily happens if a man asks a woman for her phone number?

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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:07:22

At 12/1/13 07:04 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/1/13 07:03 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Yes, there is a such thing as social pressure. Some of it involves women giving their number to men even though they don't find them attractive.
...and this necessarily happens if a man asks a woman for her phone number?

What do you mean "necessarily?"
If you're asking if all women are the same then no, it doesn't happen necessarily.
But rather than rolling the dice like you and so many other men I prefer to go the logical route and approach a girl I like in a place where she is literally looking for guys.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:09:24

At 12/1/13 07:07 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: What do you mean "necessarily?"
If you're asking if all women are the same then no, it doesn't happen necessarily.

I'm asking because you seem to have a moral objection to things that most other people would consider ordinary dating practices.

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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:09:49

At 12/1/13 07:03 PM, thatkidkenji wrote:
At 12/1/13 06:58 PM, Entice wrote:
At 12/1/13 06:57 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I won't be pressuring girls to give me their number because the very nature of our communication insists upon judging our mutual attraction.
"Pressuring"?
Yes, there is a such thing as social pressure. Some of it involves women giving their number to men even though they don't find them attractive.

What? All she has to do is say "no."... there is no "social pressure" that you are claiming. No one(who isn't stupid) would expect a woman to give her number to someone she does not want to.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:17:34

At 12/1/13 07:07 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: But rather than rolling the dice like you and so many other men I prefer to go the logical route and approach a girl I like in a place where she is literally looking for guys.

What about just checking she's cool from her paralinguistics before making a move? Before I ever kiss someone, I just lightly touch their cheek (usually just fix their hair), and if they flinch I apologise and GTFO. Stuff like that where you know they're being genuine and not acting out of pressure.

I mean, if I was a girl, I'd like to be able to have some spontaneous fun rather than only being allowed to get my kicks when/ where I specifically went to look for it. I don't think I've ever had a meaningful relationship with someone I met, specifically looking for a meaningful relationship.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:19:11

At 12/1/13 07:09 PM, Zachary wrote:
there is no "social pressure"

No, there's plenty of it. Maybe you should look into it.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:24:41

At 12/1/13 07:19 PM, thatkidkenji wrote:
At 12/1/13 07:09 PM, Zachary wrote:
there is no "social pressure"
No, there's plenty of it. Maybe you should look into it.

There is no social pressure for women to give their phone numbers to guys if they do not want to.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:49:36

At 12/1/13 07:24 PM, Zachary wrote:

There is no social pressure for women to give their phone numbers to guys if they do not want to.

No there's plenty of it. Maybe you should look into it.

I mean, if I was a girl, I'd like to be able to have some spontaneous fun rather than only being allowed to get my kicks when/ where I specifically went to look for it.

Telling me what you'd want as a woman because as a man it's what you want out of women is totes lame.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 19:54:53

At 12/1/13 07:49 PM, thatkidkenji wrote:
At 12/1/13 07:24 PM, Zachary wrote:

There is no social pressure for women to give their phone numbers to guys if they do not want to.
No there's plenty of it. Maybe you should look into it.

Prove it then. Since you are the one making the claim you have to prove that there is social pressure for girls to give their numbers out to males unwillingly. If you don't, you lose. Since there is "plenty of it" I'm sure you won't have a hard time proving it...


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:04:27

At 12/1/13 04:20 PM, Minion777 wrote:
At 12/1/13 04:05 PM, JeremyLokken wrote:
At 11/30/13 06:59 AM, Slint wrote: Females always make shit movies no exceptions ever.
Point Break.
What a shit movie.

Shit taste.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:11:18

It could be that the film wasn't very good, or boring, or targeted at a niche audience.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:20:19

At 12/1/13 07:54 PM, Zachary wrote:

Prove it then. Since you are the one making the claim you have to prove that there is social pressure for girls to give their numbers out to males unwillingly. If you don't, you lose. Since there is "plenty of it" I'm sure you won't have a hard time proving it...

I don't really care about "winning" so...You can look into it or not you can not.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:30:18

At 12/1/13 07:49 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Telling me what you'd want as a woman because as a man it's what you want out of women is totes lame.

Fair point. Do you not think women appreciate (a little, measured and sensitive) spontaneity?


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:32:05

At 12/1/13 08:30 PM, AxTekk wrote:
At 12/1/13 07:49 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Telling me what you'd want as a woman because as a man it's what you want out of women is totes lame.
Fair point. Do you not think women appreciate (a little, measured and sensitive) spontaneity?

I think that many do and many don't.
I'd rather not take my chances if it means reinforcing the power dynamic between men and women.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:35:13

Since when is gender inequality a problem?


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:41:50

At 12/1/13 08:20 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: I don't really care about "winning" so...You can look into it or not you can not.

You lose :)

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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 20:44:41

At 12/1/13 08:41 PM, Zachary wrote:
Bye troll!

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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 21:01:46

I'm going to jump in without reading the entire thread, because I know if I do, my answer may become novel of responses. But I'd just say it's because generally a lot of people just aren't as used to it. It's like seeing a single father signing up for a bake sale to help his kids at school. It's unfamiliar and sometimes it makes us uncomfortable. It serves no real purpose to feel that way, but we do anyway. I think it's just because it takes a long time for the dust to settle when it comes to the face of an industry changing.

Honestly, all that comes to mind for me when I think female director is Sofia Coppola. That's saying something.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 21:47:56

At 11/30/13 06:01 PM, AxTekk wrote: The big difference between sexes isn't cognitive ability. It's motivation, and distribution of types of intelligence.

I thought the big difference between sexes was having a peen or a vag.

Snark directed at what this thread has turned into in general, not you specifically. FWIW I think most of your posts in this thread have been pretty spot-on.
At 11/30/13 10:53 PM, HeavenDuff wrote: Like somehow in your retarded ideology, there is a clear hierarchy between problems, and they should be considered in one specific order, and as long as the "most important" problems aren't solved, then it is wrong to care about anything else then what is supposedly, according to your own subjective ideas, the "most important problem to solve."

And it's such a laughable, blatantly disingenuous non-argument too. It doesn't address anything the other person said, it adds nothing to the conversation, and it serves only as a cheap attempt to derail whatever everyone else was talking about (which is exactly what's happened here, so you're kind of letting them win).

Do you think the people who make and repost those sorts of things ever do anything in real life to solve those "more important" issues, or even bring them up online in any context other than a self-serving attempt to derail some other conversation, like what's happening in this thread? I doubt it.

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At 12/1/13 09:01 PM, PiperAnn wrote: But I'd just say it's because generally a lot of people just aren't as used to it.

Do most moviegoers even know or care who the director is outside of a small handful of big names, though? I feel like most of the problems causing this disparity happen long before people outside the industry even know a given project exists.

Or are you just talking about attitudes within the industry? Because in that case, yeah I agree.


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Response to Gender Inequality in Film 2013-12-01 22:03:37

At 12/1/13 09:47 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: Or are you just talking about attitudes within the industry?

Yes. My point was that some people may not be use to or comfortable with female directors due to it being fairly new to see. Waiting for the dust to setting from such a shift may take awhile. Sofia Coppola being the daughter of Francis Ford Coppola may have given her associates, producers and others that extra bit of confidence in working with her.


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