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At 11/30/13 02:22 PM, thatkidkenji wrote:

At 11/30/13 02:19 PM, Chdonga wrote: Maybe if they wrote movies about something other than women being oppressed by the patriarchy, they wouldn't have such trouble getting media attention.

Several users have posted "maybe if they did *this* instead of *that" so I'm assuming this is the best you guys can do at comedy because there's no way you're actually serious.

I honestly haven't heard of a female directing a movie that wasn't about female oppression.

At 11/30/13 04:51 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 11/30/13 04:50 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/30/13 04:39 AM, Xenomit wrote: But he's right though

Right about what?

everything lol

That sounds so true, I couldn't except a better answer.

I have an image I like to post when feminazis and transgenders complain about "Patriarchs" and "society"

At 11/30/13 12:20 PM, Slint wrote: But I'm just guessing it was all their husbands or boyfriends or male friends who did the work but let them have the credit.

Well, that much goes without saying lol

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote: I honestly haven't heard of a female directing a movie that wasn't about female oppression.

American Psycho, We Need to Talk About Kevin, The Hurt Locker... I mean shit, wasn't The Matrix written by a chick? I understand though, generally you won't hear about the sex of a director/ writer if the film doesn't involve sex-related thematics.

At 11/30/13 11:22 AM, thatkidkenji wrote: What is so masculine about making a movie

I don't think sexism isn't a part of gender inequality, but it's worth pointing out that guys are just more greedy than women. That might be social thing right now, but if you give a guy and a girl the same test and offer money for correct answer, the men'll outperform the women although they'll generally score equally otherwise. I don't think that's men being superior to women by any stretch of the imagination, just men being more blindly ambitious and women having more perspective.

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote: I honestly haven't heard of a female directing a movie that wasn't about female oppression.

either you're trolling or you're a massive idiot who hasn't been paying attention

At 11/30/13 03:04 PM, exudaz wrote: I have an image I like to post when feminazis and transgenders complain about "Patriarchs" and "society"

So I guess impoverished 3rd worlders can't complain about their situations either because while they may live in squalor they still have freedom as opposed to people kidnapped and sold into sex slavery. And those sex slaves can't complain either because there's people who are straight up dead.

Just because there's always someone who has it "harder" doesn't trivialize the problems someone is personally faced with. Ironically, this stupid image was probably made by the exact type of over-privileged asswipe that the image tries to mock.

At 11/30/13 03:09 PM, Natick wrote:

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote: I honestly haven't heard of a female directing a movie that wasn't about female oppression.

either you're trolling or you're a massive idiot who hasn't been paying attention

chdonga is a moron, just ignore it

At 11/30/13 03:05 PM, AxTekk wrote:

if you give a guy and a girl the same test and offer money for correct answer, the men'll outperform the women although they'll generally score equally otherwise.

A man won't outperform a woman who is more intelligent than him, money-motivated or not.

At 11/30/13 03:32 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: A man won't outperform a woman who is more intelligent than him, money-motivated or not.

Well that's just plainly false (and nothing to do with being men or women). Success isn't just about smarts, a lot comes down to how willing you are to hustle for it.

At 11/30/13 03:42 PM, AxTekk wrote:

At 11/30/13 03:32 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: A man won't outperform a woman who is more intelligent than him, money-motivated or not.

Well that's just plainly false (and nothing to do with being men or women). Success isn't just about smarts, a lot comes down to how willing you are to hustle for it.

You said "test" as in yes or no answers where success is specifically measured by intelligence/memory.
A man will generally be more successful than a woman of the same race but there's plenty of evidence of institutional sexism that would explain why this is so.

lesbihonest

whens the last time you cared about a woman and it didnt involve your penis somehow

admit it bruh they just not interestig

At 11/30/13 03:05 PM, AxTekk wrote:

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote: I honestly haven't heard of a female directing a movie that wasn't about female oppression.

I mean shit, wasn't The Matrix written by a chick?

Her brother co-wrote it. So doesn't count.

because they dont have a dick

At 11/30/13 03:31 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 11/30/13 03:09 PM, Natick wrote:

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote: I honestly haven't heard of a female directing a movie that wasn't about female oppression.

either you're trolling or you're a massive idiot who hasn't been paying attention

chdonga is a moron, just ignore it

I learned it from you daddy.

At 11/30/13 02:12 PM, Dr-Worm wrote:

Because the big studios are old boys' clubs

The truth: The IQ distribution for women is not the same as men, so that there's way more very smart men than there are very smart women and since to succeed in creative / scientific fields you need a high intelligence, it's natural that men greatly outnumber women.

The internet is a perfect example. Anyone is free to create whatever they want but almost all the successful things have been created from the ground-up by men, without "old boy's clubs", often by men in their teens or early 20s.

It's simply a myth that it's men preventing women from succeeding in such fields.

Another example: Animation. On the web, it's almost exclusively men, yet who here would claim that girls are not encouraged to draw as kids?? Drawing is a completely gender-neutral occupation yet as kids age, boys are far more skilled at it on average than girls and the top animators all over the web are men, because it takes high levels of intelligence to create and manage a successful animation series from scratch.

All of this is in spite of numerous programs to help girls ( unfairly ) compete with guys in school or in para scholar activities, but they still get destroyed at the end of the day.

This simple IQ graph explains almost all the disparity you see at the top of every domain. I forget where, but there is also an online IQ test you can take where they put your name on the list if you score above a certain number. Surprise surprise: Almost exclusively men on the list. You need some serious amount of denial to explain this in any way other than natural abilities.

At 11/30/13 03:05 PM, AxTekk wrote:

At 11/30/13 12:20 PM, Slint wrote: But I'm just guessing it was all their husbands or boyfriends or male friends who did the work but let them have the credit.

Well, that much goes without saying lol

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote:

I mean shit, wasn't The Matrix written by a chick

no it was written and directed by Larry and andy wachowski

At 11/30/13 04:38 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 11/30/13 03:06 AM, yurgenburgen wrote: Obviously the patriarchy is to blame.

Without going into this kind of bullshit, you could at least consider the possibility that the movie making universe might be of a more masculine tradition?

lol, isn't that the same as saying "the patriarchy is to blame"?

At 11/30/13 05:14 PM, poxpower wrote:

there's way more very smart men than there are very smart women

I didn't know Misogyny 101 was an actual class.

to succeed in creative / scientific fields you need a high intelligence

Uwe Boll, M. Night, Michael Bay, etc. Creativity and intelligence don't correlate. I will write a better short story than any astrophysicist and mathematician, assuming of course that they've never practice the literary arts to the degree that I have.

The internet is a perfect example. Anyone is free to create whatever they want but almost all the successful things have been created from the ground-up by men, without "old boy's clubs", often by men in their teens or early 20s.

Actually, heteropatriachal colonialist white supremacy is very pervasive within the blogosphere, which is why highly skilled guys get more attention than women of any skill level.

(The graph tells me you're trolling but juuuuuuuuuuust in case...)

At 11/30/13 05:14 PM, poxpower wrote: This simple IQ graph explains almost all the disparity you see at the top of every domain.

ironically that's a pretty cool graph but here's a better picture made by the same dude (the original "nice guy") lol

--supergandhi64

At 11/30/13 05:21 PM, kazumazkan wrote:

At 11/30/13 03:05 PM, AxTekk wrote:

At 11/30/13 12:20 PM, Slint wrote: But I'm just guessing it was all their husbands or boyfriends or male friends who did the work but let them have the credit.

At 11/30/13 02:31 PM, Chdonga wrote:

I mean shit, wasn't The Matrix written by a chick

no it was written and directed by Larry and andy wachowski

Shit didnt know Larry had a sex change regardless written when he was a dude

At 11/30/13 03:47 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: You said "test" as in yes or no answers where success is specifically measured by intelligence/memory.
A man will generally be more successful than a woman of the same race but there's plenty of evidence of institutional sexism that would explain why this is so.

Actually, what's REALLY interesting is that you see this if you give cash incentives for IQ tests. Men go wayyyy harder, women not as much.

Says a lot about the accuracy of IQ tests, eh?

At 11/30/13 05:14 PM, poxpower wrote:

The difference in IQ you show in that graph is like, what, an average 0.2 SDs? If intelligence was responsible for success in animating, why don't we see a 60-40 split sex-wise, rather than the 95-5 we do see?

The big difference between sexes isn't cognitive ability. It's motivation, and distribution of types of intelligence. This is incredibly well documented and I'm shocked that you would dispute this.

At 11/30/13 05:54 PM, AxTekk wrote:

Actually, what's REALLY interesting is that you see this if you give cash incentives for IQ tests. Men go wayyyy harder, women not as much.

Why haven't you posted a link to this stuff?

At 11/30/13 06:01 PM, AxTekk wrote:

At 11/30/13 05:14 PM, poxpower wrote:

The difference in IQ you show in that graph is like, what, an average 0.2 SDs?

The relevance of the graph is not the avg difference between men and women, it's the ratio of smart men vs smart women.

The big difference between sexes isn't cognitive ability. It's motivation, and distribution of types of intelligence. This is incredibly well documented and I'm shocked that you would dispute this.

I don't dispute it. IQ is just one of many such differences that explain why there are many times more very smart and successful men as there are women, in just about every field.

At 11/30/13 06:13 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: Why haven't you posted a link to this stuff?

Finding it hard to dig up on internet, this is related and the same authors. I mean, this paper does show the difference I was talking about... Just not the same sample size and shit...

http://home.uchicago.edu/jlist/papers/116-full.pdf

At 11/30/13 06:15 PM, poxpower wrote: The relevance of the graph is not the avg difference between men and women, it's the ratio of smart men vs smart women.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188690100040X

Yeah, I'm a need a source on that ratio you have as well. Which test did they use?

I don't dispute it. IQ is just one of many such differences that explain why there are many times more very smart and successful men as there are women, in just about every field.

What differences do you think are responsible then? There's differences either side, and crystalised g is usually higher in women.

At 11/30/13 06:37 PM, AxTekk wrote:

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S019188690100040X

Yeah, I'm a need a source on that ratio you have as well. Which test did they use?

http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/sexdifferences.aspx

It's not one test, it's just about every test...
Feel free to go look at Mensa numbers etc. The higher up you go in IQ, the less women qualify, even if both sexes have roughly the same average IQ, with some results favoring men while others favor women.

In Mensa( IQ above 130), it's almost 2-1 male:
http://mwm.us.mensa.org/faq/people.html

Look at how many more males get perfect SAT math scores than women: http://media.collegeboard.com/digitalServices/pdf/research/SAT-Mathematics-Percentile-Ranks-2013.pdf
Again, 2:1 ratio even if the number of male applicants is 12% fewer.

What differences do you think are responsible then?

Like I said, I agree with you.
Higher IQ ( especially mathematical / spatial reasoning ) at the high ends combined with higher competitiveness and risk-taking means men will naturally outshine women in the top levels of just about every profession, as long as the competition is fair.

At 11/30/13 06:01 PM, AxTekk wrote: The difference in IQ you show in that graph is like, what, an average 0.2 SDs? If intelligence was responsible for success in animating, why don't we see a 60-40 split sex-wise, rather than the 95-5 we do see?

fyi you see the 95 to 5 animator rate because you're not looking beyond newgrounds

see on top of that women are more practical and don't waste their time on creating stuff on the internet

Yet I can't seem to give a fuck.

At 11/30/13 07:22 PM, poxpower wrote: http://www.iqcomparisonsite.com/sexdifferences.aspx

Lmao, so Lynn and Jensen. And Raven's matrices are well known to favour males, not because it's g-weighted but because they're weighted to numbers rather than verbals. The Stanford Binet and Weschler are better in terms of weighting, but they do favour the maths over the verbals as well. If you look at the scores of the different sexes on the different parts of these tests it becomes clear that women are just better at different things for whatever reason. The overall difference in g found is negligible.

So, like I said, it's not that raw cognitive prowess is the differentiator. Women just use their fluid g to build verbal skills while men use their fluid g to build mathsy skills (generally).

What is really interesting though is the differences in variability between sexes. Men are easier incentivised to score higher and more easily demotivated to score lower.

Like I said, I agree with you.
Higher IQ ( especially mathematical / spatial reasoning ) at the high ends combined with higher competitiveness and risk-taking means men will naturally outshine women in the top levels of just about every profession, as long as the competition is fair.

I think I actually agree with you on the whole, although I'm sure we'd give different root causes for different parts.

The skill set men tend to aquire suits (currently) higher paying jobs better. This says nothing for the utility of these skill sets: Financiers earn more than nurses, but I don't think we'd try convincing nurses to be financiers.

I'd disagree with you about "just about every profession" though, the female skill set should be especially suited to film (colour thinking, emotional thinking and creative thinking are all female strong points psychometrically), I think you just get less female nut-jobs who throw away everything to chase their dream, and continue throwing everything away to get to the top of their bracket.

I do also think the boys-club phenomenon plays a part too, but that'll become less and less the case. It's like in medicine, the first female doctors braved a lot of sexism, but they did lead the way for equal recognition (at least in my country, the majority of medical degrees go to women). Medicine's always been incredibly professional though - compare it to the film industry where it's not what you know but who you blow.

At 11/30/13 03:29 PM, thatkidkenji wrote: some shit about stuf he knows little about

"OH I NEED MY HORMONES! I DIDN'T CHOOSE THIS GENDER! OH WOES ME!"
Oh my, just because your junk didn't turn out how you wanted it must mean you must be incomplete until you feel you are a woman.
Respect if not given through giving, is given through Merit.

The transgendered people who believe that cisgender people need to die and are scum are digging their own hole. If they wanted to earn the respect of the American people, they could do something big. Invent Something, Join the Service, fucking clean up parks or something. But no. What do they do? They complain about how they have it the worst in America, how they are at the bottom of the list. If a Transgender person did things like Tesla, Einstein, or Hawking, they would have respect in the community as one of them managed to get into the history books. There have been several homosexuals who have done great things, and that's why they get respect. That's why during a time when blacks were considered 2nd class citizens in the US, one managed to rally the support of many and lead a movement that brought about the rights they were seeking. Posting a video on youtube is something, but many of these "activists" are not MLK's, they are not Harvey Milk's, and they are not Gandhi's. Taking a stand and actually leading the march is how you make change, making yourself as a serious and presentable cause earns you merit.

"Oh jeez, Those people must be better off because someone has it worse".
People die but the world doesn't get any better. Tons of people have it worse than others, but nothing gets better. So instead of trying to be "Witty" and "Cool" when replying, think things through