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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-28 03:31:05 Reply

At 11/28/13 03:18 AM, Xenomit wrote: I collect mercury somewhat illegally

I of course know how to properly handle it

I quite love the stuff

Shit's expensive
I remember my dad telling me about a time he played with Mercury as a kid, lol

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-28 03:33:48 Reply

At 11/28/13 03:31 AM, Entice wrote: Shit's expensive
I remember my dad telling me about a time he played with Mercury as a kid, lol

Damn

I might be sitting on a small goldmine, I have tons of it in glass jars in my attic


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-28 03:35:56 Reply

I have a hundred old ones in my closet still. I haven't replaces an old fashion light bulb in like fucking 2 years


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-28 10:54:32 Reply

At 11/28/13 03:10 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: outside lights for security, I use 100 inside (only one needed a room) and the 200W are used as security which just light up the neighborhood.

Ah, that explains why I don't use 200W bulbs.
I think the highest wattage I use is 100W and then I normally use 60W. And I also have one 25W and one 75W "party bulbs" which I got on Halloween a few years ago. Ones a blacklight and the other is an orange light.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-28 14:46:53 Reply

At 11/28/13 03:29 AM, Painbringer wrote: Nothing new, considering that people have been dumping and smashing their big ol' tubes for over 75 years!

Even a local hardware store has been doing that up until recently.

Now consider adding bulbs from every home in america to that

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-28 18:36:57 Reply

At 11/28/13 02:46 PM, LemonCrush wrote: Now consider adding bulbs from every home in america to that

Do you seriously think that everyone in America is just going to throw those bulbs away?

I'm sure half the people who buy them will dispose of them properly.

And I'm also sure that there are homeowners out there who still crush up their old tubes in the garbage can.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 01:16:13 Reply

At 11/28/13 06:36 PM, Painbringer wrote:
At 11/28/13 02:46 PM, LemonCrush wrote: Now consider adding bulbs from every home in america to that
Do you seriously think that everyone in America is just going to throw those bulbs away?

Yes, just like they do with batteries

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 03:23:21 Reply

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 03:52:52 Reply

At 11/28/13 03:33 AM, Xenomit wrote:
I might be sitting on a small goldmine, I have tons of it in glass jars in my attic

what are you doing with all this mercury?

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 03:57:00 Reply

At 11/29/13 03:52 AM, Sodamachine wrote:
At 11/28/13 03:33 AM, Xenomit wrote:
I might be sitting on a small goldmine, I have tons of it in glass jars in my attic
what are you doing with all this mercury?

As I said, I quite love the stuff


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 04:04:53 Reply

At 11/29/13 03:57 AM, Xenomit wrote:
As I said, I quite love the stuff

What, are you eating it or something?

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 04:07:30 Reply

At 11/29/13 04:04 AM, Sodamachine wrote:
At 11/29/13 03:57 AM, Xenomit wrote:
As I said, I quite love the stuff
What, are you eating it or something?

No, just collecting it in glass vials and jars


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 04:09:14 Reply

At 11/29/13 04:07 AM, Xenomit wrote:

Well okay have fun then.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 10:15:41 Reply

At 11/27/13 10:04 PM, Painbringer wrote:
They're slow to warm up, render colors poorly, fail prematurely (sometimes violently), and some flicker and buzz.

I just had to replace one that wasn't even a year old because it would crackle and pop for several minutes at startup, and I wasn't about to risk a fire by leaving it in (those that are made in China like to catch fire), and of course if you break one you're house is contaminated and you have to call in an expert mercury removal team (at least that's what the government tells us to do). Most don't like to be operated upside down too.

I like how companies gave Odumbo the middle finger (the ban on 100W was his idea after all) by creating 90W bulbs, which pretty much give off the same amount of light. I did buy a few boxes of 100's before they disappeared.

Banning 60 watt and less would be completely retarded considering 100W CFL's draw 60 watts. Really that's the only reason I have a few in my house. My fixtures can't handle more than 60W, and I need the extra light, so even with them I'm not saving any energy.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 10:21:27 Reply

At 11/28/13 10:54 AM, Viper50 wrote:
At 11/28/13 03:10 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: outside lights for security, I use 100 inside (only one needed a room) and the 200W are used as security which just light up the neighborhood.
Ah, that explains why I don't use 200W bulbs.

it was to prevent car break ins because that one dinky light at the intersection barely lit anything. but that was when I was living with family.

I think the highest wattage I use is 100W and then I normally use 60W. And I also have one 25W and one 75W "party bulbs" which I got on Halloween a few years ago. Ones a blacklight and the other is an orange light.

I use 100W CFL (Spiral ones) one in every room was all I needed, I might have a lamp that has two sockets so I put in one 75W colored one (usually red)

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 11:08:17 Reply

I don't know where in the world you all buy light bulbs, but we buy CFLs in packs of four, for 4 USD.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 11:21:40 Reply

I've been using the more energy efficient kinds and they actually seem to be cheaper in the long run, so I have no reason to use the less energy efficient ones.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 12:20:19 Reply

At 11/29/13 10:21 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: it was to prevent car break ins because that one dinky light at the intersection barely lit anything. but that was when I was living with family.

We don't have to deal with car break ins in my town. Granted I do live a couple hours from Chicago but we're far enough away where there is little to no crime in my area. Aside from drunk driving, people being out past curfew, or shop lifting and shit like that. We did have someone in town go after a few police officers with a chainsaw once....no surprise that he ended up murdering 2 people a year or two later.

I use 100W CFL (Spiral ones) one in every room was all I needed, I might have a lamp that has two sockets so I put in one 75W colored one (usually red)

We predominately use the standard non-spiral bulbs in all of the rooms in our house. The spiral ones ended up going out a lot faster than the other ones so we ended up not getting them anymore. Seriously it took like a month or two for a spiral bulb to go out and yet we've had the same bulb in a few rooms literally for YEARS.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 14:20:13 Reply

At 11/29/13 12:20 PM, Viper50 wrote: We don't have to deal with car break ins in my town. Granted I do live a couple hours from Chicago but we're far enough away where there is little to no crime in my area. Aside from drunk driving, people being out past curfew, or shop lifting and shit like that. We did have someone in town go after a few police officers with a chainsaw once....no surprise that he ended up murdering 2 people a year or two later.

true I live in a party town and in a year (in my neighborhood) we had 4 incidents 1 to many. plus a sisters ex boyfriend and custody issues on a child they had.

We predominately use the standard non-spiral bulbs in all of the rooms in our house. The spiral ones ended up going out a lot faster than the other ones so we ended up not getting them anymore. Seriously it took like a month or two for a spiral bulb to go out and yet we've had the same bulb in a few rooms literally for YEARS.

I just use the red ones when I still want light but its darker. the cfls are nice but I wish I could get some more Lumens out of them.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 17:15:55 Reply

At 11/29/13 10:15 AM, wildfire4461 wrote: if you break one you're house is contaminated and you have to call in an expert mercury removal team (at least that's what the government tells us to do).

Actually, then now say to turn off your ventilation system, open a window, and collect the glass shards with sticky tape.

Most don't like to be operated upside down too.

It's only because hot air rises and that might shorten their life a bit.

I like how companies gave Odumbo the middle finger (the ban on 100W was his idea after all) by creating 90W bulbs, which pretty much give off the same amount of light. I did buy a few boxes of 100's before they disappeared.

Actually, George W. Bush signed it into law back in 2007 (2007 Energy Independence Act - look it up). And it's 72 watt bulbs, not 90.

Banning 60 watt and less would be completely retarded considering 100W CFL's draw 60 watts.

You trolling, or just really ignorant? 100 watt equivalent CFLs actually use 23 to 26 watts, max. Or maybe you're using some 60 watt halogen or something? Is it curly?

Really that's the only reason I have a few in my house. My fixtures can't handle more than 60W, and I need the extra light, so even with them I'm not saving any energy.

Well, lights only account for a small percentage of a home's total power bill.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 18:42:00 Reply

At 11/29/13 05:15 PM, Painbringer wrote:

Actually, George W. Bush signed it into law back in 2007 (2007 Energy Independence Act - look it up). And it's 72 watt bulbs, not 90.

You were saying?
Be glad to post a pic' of the 100W swirley CFL's that use 60W also.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 19:46:02 Reply

At 11/29/13 06:42 PM, wildfire4461 wrote: You were saying?

I remember seeing those way back in the '90s!

And they're just downthrottled regular bulbs, not CFLs.

A proper hundred watt (or equivalent) today would produce 1600 lumens or more.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-29 20:14:53 Reply

At 11/28/13 03:31 AM, Entice wrote:
I remember my dad telling me about a time he played with Mercury as a kid, lol

My dad too. Guess that was what all the cool kids did back then!

I am also a fan of LED but I am using the energy efficient curly ones mentioned by some others. Mine do not need to heat up, they come on instantly, but we do have to change them often.

This is a bit off topic but I know two people who have had the newer bulbs catch fire. One of them lost her house. The other was at home luckily and got it out. This was taken by my lucky friend who was at home.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-30 12:09:31 Reply

They are all designed to fail. Look up "planned obsolescence".

CFL and LED alternatives will most likely continue to net the light bulb companies the same amount of profit. Either from increased price or a decreased lifespan. That doesn't mean that you can't save money by picking the more energy efficient option.

Use the technology you like the most. You can import hoards of inefficient incandescent bulbs while the CFL users die of increased levels of mercury in the ground water and the LED royalty bask in the light from the cool, safe, and much more pleasing daylight-balanced LED bulbs.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-11-30 12:43:18 Reply

Time to stockpile on bulbs.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-12-17 18:25:36 Reply

At 11/30/13 12:43 PM, Lemonardo wrote: Time to stockpile on bulbs.

Yep. Especially since 40 and 60W bulbs will be banned by the end of the year now. Time to go get some.

Fuck this government.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-12-17 23:09:41 Reply

At 12/17/13 06:25 PM, wildfire4461 wrote: Yep. Especially since 40 and 60W bulbs will be banned by the end of the year now. Time to go get some.

Fuck this government.

40 and 60 watt bulbs will still exist.

Even with all the hoarders, there will still be plenty of old stock remaining.

That and you still have other shapes and sizes to choose from: Globe, candle, appliance, tubular, vintage/Edison, etc.)

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-12-18 10:01:10 Reply

At 12/17/13 11:09 PM, Painbringer wrote:
At 12/17/13 06:25 PM, wildfire4461 wrote: Yep. Especially since 40 and 60W bulbs will be banned by the end of the year now. Time to go get some.

Fuck this government.
40 and 60 watt bulbs will still exist.

Even with all the hoarders, there will still be plenty of old stock remaining.

That and you still have other shapes and sizes to choose from: Globe, candle, appliance, tubular, vintage/Edison, etc.)

I fully expect 25W and smaller to go next. You'll have to put CFL's in your fridge soon.


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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-12-18 15:37:11 Reply

At 12/18/13 10:01 AM, wildfire4461 wrote: I fully expect 25W and smaller to go next.

Unlikely, since they don't sell as well as the brighter ones. That and they consume the same power as CFLs (while giving less light.

You'll have to put CFL's in your fridge soon.

Appliance bulbs will still exist, due to the fact that you cannot put any other bulb in a oven. But as for fridges, most of the newer high-end ones already come with LEDs built right in.

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Response to The "Bulb Ban" is purely commercial 2013-12-18 16:59:53 Reply

Plebs ITT don't use the all powerful all knowing light of the sun. Lights bulbs are for cowards afraid of the dark.