Experiences > Material stuff

[Dercaful]

I just saw this video of a Mexican (I guess) guy who makes videos of him traveling, showing what he sees. He's been in England, Seoul, Africa, and many more places, but something I actually have to admire is that he lives based on traveling. He always says: "Material belongings are things that you won't carry until you die. Instead, it's better to pay for experiences rather than material things, because they're something wonderful, that you can share without losing it, and you can carry it to your tomb".

What do you think? Should we pay for experiences rather than material things?

[Entice]

I will carry my guns to my grave
You can pry them from my dead hands

[Satan]

At 11/24/13 07:04 PM, Dercaful wrote: "Material belongings are things that you won't carry until you die. Instead, it's better to pay for experiences rather than material things, because they're something wonderful, that you can share without losing it, and you can carry it to your tomb".

There's two things wrong with what he just said: First being that when you die, all brain activity ceases, and you stop functioning entirely, resulting in the loss of all of your memories, plus, you can forget things, especially in old age (dementia). Second being that I can request to be buried with my material possessions, meaning that I can "carry them to my tomb".

[Slacker013]

At 11/24/13 07:25 PM, Entice wrote: I will carry my guns to my grave
You can pry them from my dead hands

Why pry when I could sell your hands as monkey paw back scratchers?

[Painbringer]

Memories are good, so long as you have a camera, hard drive and site to upload it to.

[Luer]

It's always nice to have some material things. You don't need a lot of it though.

[Piggler]

At 11/24/13 07:04 PM, Dercaful wrote: What do you think? Should we pay for experiences rather than material things?

It's more so about what specific material possessions you choose because your experience will correlate directly to the material at hand.

e.g. even though concert tickets are a material possession, you can use them to garner memorable experiences of the time you spent at the show and with you people you went with.

[yurgenburgen]

At 11/24/13 07:04 PM, Dercaful wrote: I just saw this video of a Mexican (I guess) guy who makes videos of him traveling

FUCK MATERIALISM EXCEPT FOR MY CAMCORDER AND LAPTOP AND INTERNET ACCESS

[Bit]

At 11/24/13 10:20 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 11/24/13 07:04 PM, Dercaful wrote: I just saw this video of a Mexican (I guess) guy who makes videos of him traveling

FUCK MATERIALISM EXCEPT FOR MY CAMCORDER AND LAPTOP AND INTERNET ACCESS

This.

Where do you draw the line of materialism? You need food, water, and shelter. You probably feel that you need clothing, vehicles, and at least something for entertainment. Most people would not survive long without their phones, computers, and Internet.

Upon closer inspection, the whole anti-materialism idea begins to fall apart. Yes, you will always have needs. You will also have wants. Some of which are material. You can not arbitrarily decide for others that your camera and laptop are universally essential whereas others' possessions are not.

Some will benefit from living as a monk with no possessions but food and water.
Others will not.

The only thing that will stop you from having good experiences, regardless of material possessions, is you.

[Darthdenim]

I have absolutely no desire to go anywhere ever.

I'd rather stay home and tinker with my material goods.

[Xenomit]

At 11/24/13 09:24 PM, Painbringer wrote: Memories are good, so long as you have a camera, hard drive and site to upload it to.

I don't know about the rest of you, but I have incredibly good memory

[orangebomb]

I think it's painfully obvious that this man is a fucking moron, who I would assume that he's never heard of dementia or amnesia before. Materialism is nothing more than empty rhetoric designed to scare people out of getting the finer things in life, and those who generally fall for this are either poor or are dopes who fail at economics.

Plus, how does this dope even travel to all these places anyway without some sort of material possessions? {i.e passport and plane tickets}

[Dean]

What about items that provide an experience? I don't buy video games because I want to own another plastic case and DVD. I buy video games because they provide an experience of some kind. Usually experiences that I'd never encounter otherwise. The same can generally be said of all media forms. You buy a book, CD, DVD, video game or whatever else not so much for the physical item, but for the experience that comes with it. Are these experiences considered less valid? If so, why?

At the end of the day it's all personal preference anyway. Just because one man gets a sense of fulfilment from travelling the world, doesn't mean everyone else will.

[Splats]

At 11/24/13 07:04 PM, Dercaful wrote: What do you think?

He's right, I guess, but I'm probably speaking for everyone here if I say nobody's actually gonna throw away their life and go discover the world n shit

[Piper]

Well, my issue would be whether or not the material stuff I buy is long lasting, relevant to my life, or impeding on my ability to enjoy life. If all material stuff was a threat to my making good memories, sure I'd feel like it was an either/or situation. But it's not that way. So, I value both.

[Dercaful]

At 11/25/13 06:10 AM, Dean wrote: What about items that provide an experience?

I wouldn't say there's something wrong with them, because, as you just said, they give you an experience. But, as you also said, it's personal preference. For example, I'd rather visit Europe than staying at home solving a Rubik's Cube or making a piece of software.

[DM692]

Nothing is "better" than anything in the grand scheme of things, spend your money on whatever makes you happy.

[Dercaful]

At 11/25/13 12:37 AM, orangebomb wrote: Plus, how does this dope even travel to all these places anyway without some sort of material possessions? {i.e passport and plane tickets}

It's not like he is going to swim across the Atlantic all naked and shit. He just says that it's not good to have an excess of possessions.

At 11/24/13 08:26 PM, Satan wrote: There's two things wrong with what he just said: First being that when you die, all brain activity ceases, and you stop functioning entirely, resulting in the loss of all of your memories, plus, you can forget things, especially in old age (dementia). Second being that I can request to be buried with my material possessions, meaning that I can "carry them to my tomb".

Yeah, I support what you say about the brain activity ceasing, but I'd rather die with the memory of a wonderful lake in Norway than die holding a book (even if it's the best book written in human history).

At 11/24/13 09:43 PM, Luer wrote: It's always nice to have some material things. You don't need a lot of it though.

At the end, it's all about personal preference.

[Ragnarokia]

Experiences remain with you for life, material posessions make your life better while you have them and provide entertainment for you to make you happy, as a result they are both important albeit in different ways. Take for example the main thing I am wanting to experience in my life right now which is to meet my partner and close the physical distance between us, to finally be with him. This is more precious than anything material, but at the same time it can't be done right at this second, so I keep my money spare for that experience for the travel costs etc. and use other quantities of my income to purchase material possessions which will make my life currently happier, things to eat and drink, games to play, software and hardware to use. All these things make the day to day life better, and as such are not to be ignored. Anyone claiming that material possessions aren't important are utterly wrong, as they make your life that much more pleasant and satisfy most of your needs. But those experiences satisfy other needs both physical and mental.

Personally I always find that the experiences are the most important, but they are also less in number, so the material needs fill the gaps perfectly and make life more comfortable.

At 11/24/13 07:04 PM, Dercaful wrote: I just saw this video of a Mexican (I guess) guy who makes videos of him traveling, showing what he sees. He's been in England, Seoul

Have to say I thought you said Sheol there, that would have made this a tad more interesting.

[Luer]

At 11/25/13 06:12 PM, Dercaful wrote:

At 11/24/13 09:43 PM, Luer wrote: It's always nice to have some material things. You don't need a lot of it though.

At the end, it's all about personal preference.

It is a little bit strange that a lot of materialistic people can be fairly annoying.

[NinjaGuy]

It's good to have a balance of both, don't subject yourself to a motto or idea that you don't subconsciously agree with. You should have as many material things as you want and always be open to as many new and exciting or possibly non thrilling experiences as possible, so as to become the person you want to be with.

[JamesGoldFire]

This idea sort of reminds of the book 'The 4-Hour Work Week.' Basically, he travels around the world all of the time, living in a new place every month. He gets to do all sorts of things on a tiny budget and doesn't really need lots of things, just what he can bring with him as he goes. Sounds like a cool way to live, though I don't know how feasible it is for most people.