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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 26th, 2013 @ 02:55 PM Reply

YAt 12/26/13 11:05 AM, 123mine123 wrote:

Hai guis. So I just started sketching some stuff I found in the internet.
Well I found this cute kitten and thought about drawing it.

So I just draw away and used it as a reference.
BTW, I traced it after I draw to see what it feels like drawing it directly and see what are the difference I between the referenced one. Is doing this a bad idea ?

Before answering that question, first you got to ask yourself what did you learn from doing this? From the comparison between the trace and the copy, you had the copy look at the audience with a flat look on its head while the traced version has volume, because of the direction it's facing(it's not really the real problem but in this case it is because of how flat and unattached the head is). Next is that the copy version have no legs while traced version have legs (because obviously cats have legs). The copy version is really sketchy while the trace is a bit cleaner, this can be fix if you confidently trace your own drawing instead of the picture. And to answer your question, if you trace for a learning purpose behind it, then I don't see a problem behind it but I think it won't help much anyway if you try to draw it free hand again and it still look like crap. Plus I don't think I have to remind you but tracing people's art and photos and claiming it as your is a no no. Same rule apply to copying. What can really help when dealing with reference is to dissec- I mean simplify it and figure out how to make it work with your style.


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 27th, 2013 @ 07:19 AM Reply

At 12/26/13 02:55 PM, ZaneZansorrow wrote: Before answering that question, first you got to ask yourself what did you learn from doing this?

Yup I did, and I completely agree to everything you said. I really need loads of practice.
Also one factor is also that I'm not used to drawing on my tablet and also of it being small.
I think I did better on paper.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 27th, 2013 @ 08:03 PM Reply

At 12/27/13 07:19 AM, 123mine123 wrote: *cat drawing*

Always good to see you moving away from fan art.
I'm guessing not fan art, I'm so out of touch nowadays.


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 27th, 2013 @ 10:23 PM Reply

At 12/27/13 08:03 PM, Decky wrote: Always good to see you moving away from fan art.
I'm guessing not fan art, I'm so out of touch nowadays.

Hi Decky! Yes, its not fanart but from a pic of a cat I've searched in Google Images. xD


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 31st, 2013 @ 12:04 AM Reply

If I keep doing this I'll improve right?
Ugh, I really want a pet cat. :C

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 31st, 2013 @ 02:04 AM Reply

At 12/31/13 12:04 AM, 123mine123 wrote: If I keep doing this I'll improve right?
Ugh, I really want a pet cat. :C

This is really great practice. It shows a great deal of perspective, my only gripe is that you should use a sharper pencil. Maybe a mechanical pencil. While your poses are well done, those thick lines look a bit jarring to me.

Keep up the good work, bro.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 31st, 2013 @ 03:04 AM Reply

I like this. I would suggest drawing the cat skeleton a few times, learn the basic construction shapes, and use those shapes against building the cat forms. Draw through the shapes and don't be afraid of leaving them in your drawings. If shading helps show the form, throw a little bit in. When I made a short film about a cat I accrued a lot of books about cats, their skeletons, and kinetic motions.

At 12/31/13 12:04 AM, 123mine123 wrote: If I keep doing this I'll improve right?
Ugh, I really want a pet cat. :C

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Dec. 31st, 2013 @ 03:38 AM Reply

At 12/31/13 02:04 AM, JoseFonz wrote: This is really great practice. It shows a great deal of perspective, my only gripe is that you should use a sharper pencil. Maybe a mechanical pencil. While your poses are well done, those thick lines look a bit jarring to me.

But...I like think lines... :C
Ok, I'll try finding one once I get to a bookstore/hardware.
Thanks for the tip.

At 12/31/13 03:04 AM, maficmelody wrote: I like this. I would suggest drawing the cat skeleton a few times, learn the basic construction shapes, and use those shapes against building the cat forms. Draw through the shapes and don't be afraid of leaving them in your drawings. If shading helps show the form, throw a little bit in. When I made a short film about a cat I accrued a lot of books about cats, their skeletons, and kinetic motions.

I actually found this tutorial a month ago.
I can't believe I totally forgot all about it.
Thanks again Mafic.

...........

Last drawing for today.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 1st, 2014 @ 11:16 AM Reply

Geez, I suck... >.>


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 1st, 2014 @ 11:17 AM Reply

At 1/1/14 11:16 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Geez, I suck... >.>

Stahp not uploading. -.-

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 3rd, 2014 @ 07:59 AM Reply

Gesture drawing...

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 3rd, 2014 @ 04:19 PM Reply

Nice lines, the motions are definitely coming through. A little note I have to suggest would be to really let the "central line of action" flow absolutely free. Forget spines and bones, and lock the action down THEN draw a person or whatever over it. Also, bonus points for contrasting lines and tilts. Sinuous curves keep poses interesting and dynamic.

At 1/3/14 07:59 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Gesture drawing...

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 3rd, 2014 @ 09:03 PM Reply

At 1/3/14 04:19 PM, maficmelody wrote: A little note I have to suggest would be to really let the "central line of action" flow absolutely free. Forget spines and bones, and lock the action down THEN draw a person or whatever over it. Also, bonus points for contrasting lines and tilts. Sinuous curves keep poses interesting and dynamic.

Forgot about exaggerating the line of action. And more loose curves, got it.
Thanks again Mafic.
..........................

Just digging a few old photos in the internet and thought about drawing it.
Like 1920's old.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 5th, 2014 @ 08:30 AM Reply

Gesture drawing is fun...
I think I'm doing it wrong though.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 7th, 2014 @ 07:46 AM Reply

Mannequins!

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 9th, 2014 @ 10:13 AM Reply

Meh..

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 9th, 2014 @ 02:52 PM Reply

At 1/9/14 10:13 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Meh..

Not bad, your taking it in the right direction. Definitely getting good a figurative pieces now, starting to look like some of the late 19th, early 20th century modernist artists. I recon if you put a few more hours into this it'd be portal worthy.


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 10th, 2014 @ 06:13 AM Reply

At 1/9/14 02:52 PM, Decky wrote:
At 1/9/14 10:13 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Meh..
Not bad, your taking it in the right direction. Definitely getting good a figurative pieces now, starting to look like some of the late 19th, early 20th century modernist artists. I recon if you put a few more hours into this it'd be portal worthy.

Thanks Decky! I'm just happy to hear that I'm on the right direction...
I love drawing these stuff.

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Having fun with mannequins.
I'm really getting the hang of this now.
I should exaggerate it more though. It feels kinda stiff.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 10th, 2014 @ 11:20 PM Reply

Just doodling.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 11th, 2014 @ 08:54 AM Reply

Hai guis! Just another one of this, me saying stuff.
Uhm... anyway, I think I'm really satisfies with the art style I currently have.
My goal has always been to be a somewhat decent cartoonist (or simply just to make cartoony looking characters and draw stuff that I want to convey).
Granted, I still need a lot to learn.
But I think my proportion has been greatly improved and I'm able to create poses with my imagination through mannequin...thingies.
I still have other goals that is still awful like perspective, rotating objects with understanding of the basic skeleton/shapes, though not as dynamic yet still detailed cloth wrinkles, etc.

I also want to thank you guis for helping! Especially you Mafic and Decky. :D


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 11th, 2014 @ 11:44 PM Reply

Drew some characters from a game im beta testing.
This was really fun for me since it's based on an 8 bit game.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 05:38 AM Reply

Trying out some... I forgot what this is called... >.>

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 05:41 AM Reply

At 1/14/14 05:38 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Trying out some... I forgot what this is called... >.>

perspective?

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At 1/14/14 05:41 AM, BrainworkInProgress wrote:
At 1/14/14 05:38 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Trying out some... I forgot what this is called... >.>
perspective?

No, the thing where you draw something from a birds eye view.
Idk. >.>


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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 14th, 2014 @ 07:53 AM Reply

Ok, came back to coloring again.

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 17th, 2014 @ 09:16 AM Reply

Some sketching because im bored...

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 21st, 2014 @ 06:06 AM Reply

Ehhh...!?

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 23rd, 2014 @ 09:13 AM Reply

Finished watching Watership Down...
Well that was depressing....TIME TO DRAW SOME RABBITS! :3

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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 24th, 2014 @ 12:11 AM Reply

Nice texture on the rabbit, I like the lights and darks. If you enjoyed Watership Down, you might enjoy Plague Dogs the uncut version. Almost the same vibe.. almost.

At 1/23/14 09:13 AM, 123mine123 wrote: Finished watching Watership Down...
Well that was depressing....TIME TO DRAW SOME RABBITS! :3
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Response to 123mine123's Learning Area Jan. 24th, 2014 @ 11:18 AM Reply

At 1/24/14 12:11 AM, maficmelody wrote: Nice texture on the rabbit, I like the lights and darks. If you enjoyed Watership Down, you might enjoy Plague Dogs the uncut version. Almost the same vibe.. almost.

Haha! Thanks! I just wanted to experiment if I painstakingly stroke one by one and create this fur effect.
And also I this kneaded eraser helped a lot too. Though I could do better.
And next on my movie list, it's Plague Dogs... OMG, why am I watching all these depressing movies.
Next on the list after that is Grave of the Fireflies.


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