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Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 19:52:56 Reply

What sounds terrible? Price means nothing in this thread. A free plugin should be scrutinized as much as a $500 one.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 19:55:19 Reply

FL Slayer

Oh lawd my ears.


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 20:20:32 Reply

At 11/4/13 07:55 PM, LichLordMusic wrote: FL Slayer

Oh lawd my ears.

wow I've completely forgotten about slayer. There is a whole group in the Imageline forumns that has been fighting to eliminate the program from FL entirely. I never understood why people hate it so much.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 20:44:59 Reply

The brass samples in EWQLSO, as well as the goddamned irremovable reverb on every instrument in that VST.

Also, Garritan Personal Orchestra. They decided that quantity over quality was a good idea, and it sure as hell shows.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 21:00:13 Reply

At 11/4/13 08:44 PM, camoshark wrote: The brass samples in EWQLSO, as well as the goddamned irremovable reverb on every instrument in that VST.

Also, Garritan Personal Orchestra. They decided that quantity over quality was a good idea, and it sure as hell shows.

I kinda like the their French horns and trombone. Though the trumpet sound so bad.

You beat it to me, GPO is definitely the bad but not as bad as Edirol Orchestra.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 21:14:08 Reply

At 11/4/13 09:00 PM, Elitistinen wrote: You beat it to me, GPO is definitely the bad but not as bad as Edirol Orchestra.

You beat me to it too. Was going to say Edirol myself. Ha!


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-04 21:33:31 Reply

I dislike Edirol only because of its horrid sound, but I still love it for the nostalgia. it was the first orchestral VST I ever used.

EastWest Symphonic Orchestra is hit and miss for me. the short articulations sound nice and organic, but the sustains are complete garbage.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 06:32:34 Reply

I see a lot of criticism towards EWQL and Garritan. I made almost all of my music with those when I didn't have any money (got the free version of EWQL and the 45$ version of Garritan with Dimension LE). Horns in EWQL and the staccato trumpets are good, the bells are good too, the two articulations of violin section are good too. The cello is a bit meh.
Garritan has the most organic woodwinds I got my hands on to this moment..

Who criticize so badly EWQL and Garritan should get their hands on Miroslav. Now THAT's a crappy library... yet I've seen Miroslav Vitous (or how you spell his name) live in a jazz festival using it with quite interesting results.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 08:20:32 Reply

At 11/5/13 06:32 AM, sorohanro wrote:
Who criticize so badly EWQL and Garritan should get their hands on Miroslav.

Ahaha, I hated that with my gut... I still have it, never use it..... Ewwwww


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At 11/4/13 07:55 PM, LichLordMusic wrote: FL Slayer

Oh lawd my ears.

It doesn't really sound that bad to me, but it's so obviously fake that it hurts. I see it more as a placeholder until I can get someone to do the part on an actual guitar.

SimSynth is pretty horrible (especially when compared to something like Sytrus).


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At 11/4/13 08:44 PM, camoshark wrote: The brass samples in EWQLSO, as well as the goddamned irremovable reverb on every instrument in that VST.

Also, Garritan Personal Orchestra. They decided that quantity over quality was a good idea, and it sure as hell shows.

I cant think of one sampler or synth that has good brass sounds.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 14:31:13 Reply

So, are you planning on using the worst vst plugins to make a new song with it? ;P


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 14:47:20 Reply

At 11/5/13 02:01 PM, Omegeist wrote: I cant think of one sampler or synth that has good brass sounds.

Omnisphere, you can't beat it.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 14:55:26 Reply

extremist.

it is without a doubt the worst plugin ever fuckin' designed.

it was designed as a cheap knock off of amplitube... it's not even close to bein' a cheap knock off.

worst fuckin' piece of shit ever, worse than fl slayer, worse than the fruity dx10 synth, worse than the ts-808.


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 14:56:30 Reply

At 11/5/13 02:01 PM, Omegeist wrote:
I cant think of one sampler or synth that has good brass sounds.

edirol orchestral isn't too bad.


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 15:40:17 Reply

At 11/4/13 08:20 PM, Omegeist wrote:
At 11/4/13 07:55 PM, LichLordMusic wrote: FL Slayer

Oh lawd my ears.
wow I've completely forgotten about slayer. There is a whole group in the Imageline forumns that has been fighting to eliminate the program from FL entirely. I never understood why people hate it so much.

REALLY now, Slayer is not that bad given the right distortion, EQ and warmth. I tend to use it as a background instrument rather than bring it to the forefront. Case in point.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 15:50:37 Reply

At 11/5/13 02:56 PM, mhb wrote: edirol orchestral isn't too bad.

At that time when they made it, it was quite good. I don't think it had RR and I think the audio files were compressed (ogg I think) but the GUI was fantastic and had several orchestra positioning and instrumentation based on style and historical period, an useful and educational tool as well.

If I hate an orchestral library/plugin, that's Miroslav, but generally speaking, as much as I love IK Amplitube and T-Racks, I hate their samplers and romplers.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 17:16:13 Reply

I remember when someone was freaking out over Image-Line (FL Studio) making it's own orchestral sample library... I was skeptical and my doubts were right.

I dunno, they tried to advertise this as like the most amazing sample library ever on their site. Personally I think it's terrible and a sad excuse for a sample library.

http://www.image-line.com/content/Sample+Fusion/Varazdin+Orchestral/


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 18:57:14 Reply

At 11/5/13 02:31 PM, CeeeX wrote: So, are you planning on using the worst vst plugins to make a new song with it? ;P

Please, somebody do this.

I'm also on the FlSlayer boat, I absolutely despise it. Tweakbench Monomate, a free squarewave VST, is the ugliest thing I've ever tried using, though. No overlayering of effects can make it sound good, from my experience.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 19:35:30 Reply

At 11/5/13 02:31 PM, CeeeX wrote: So, are you planning on using the worst vst plugins to make a new song with it? ;P

I would do it using no separate effect plugins, just the instruments.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 19:57:24 Reply

I personally think that for a $250 price point, EWQLSO has some of the best orchestra samples you will ever get at that price point. Their hollywood strings/brass/woodwinds packages are currently considered top-of-the-line, last I heard.

The PLAY engine, however, is the worst piece of shit I have ever used. EVER. I despise it with the hatred of a thousand suns. There are no words for how utterly broken and retarded it is. It sucks up RAM like nobodies business and utterly destroys my CPU even without convolution reverb. Considering that convolution reverb is several orders of magnitude more complicated than PLAYING A GODDAMN WAV FILE, I can only imagine the horrifying code that lives in the depths of that sampler. I should know, I wrote an audio engine that plays a wave file. It can play over 200 over them at the same time and barely scratch the CPU. It can even do this while converting a 32-bit integer format to floating point on the fly. I literally cannot emphasize just how catastrophically retarded this sampler engine is.

In a similar fashion, Native Instruments makes some of the best sounding synths in the industry. It also has some of the most catastrophically bad UI design I have ever seen, and the worst DRM I have EVER had to deal with. I had to use a virtual machine because their service center instantly crashed on 64-bit windows 7. This bug was only fixed like 6 months ago, despite existing for almost 2 years. Guitar Rig is needlessly convoluted and half their products have a giant raging hard-on for module-based UI even when it is laughably inappropriate.

There are no words for how much I hate the programmers at Native Instruments and EWQLSO.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 21:50:34 Reply

anything involving ilok


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-05 22:31:25 Reply

At 11/5/13 09:50 PM, SpaceWhale wrote: anything involving ilok

EXACTLY

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-06 02:55:23 Reply

Any .vst bundled with Fruity Loops :P ;) lol jk

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-06 03:10:44 Reply

dude, Omnisphere lalz ....

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At 11/6/13 03:10 AM, Warhector wrote: dude, Omnisphere lalz ....

BLASPHEMY.


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-06 04:15:27 Reply

At 11/5/13 10:31 PM, JacobCadmus wrote:
At 11/5/13 09:50 PM, SpaceWhale wrote: anything involving ilok
EXACTLY

I've never had any issues with the ilok service so far but I dread the day it breaks and I have to pay to retrieve the 14 licenses I have on it.


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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-06 09:50:30 Reply

At 11/6/13 04:15 AM, LichLordMusic wrote:
At 11/5/13 10:31 PM, JacobCadmus wrote:
At 11/5/13 09:50 PM, SpaceWhale wrote: anything involving ilok
EXACTLY
I've never had any issues with the ilok service so far but I dread the day it breaks and I have to pay to retrieve the 14 licenses I have on it.

I was thinking someone should mention ilok and PLAY but then it's blasphemy to most people on Audio.

The only solution to fixing the ilok shit I have problem with is to crack it. Tried to be a legit user, yet I failed and forced to use warez.

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-06 10:32:55 Reply

At 11/6/13 04:15 AM, LichLordMusic wrote: I've never had any issues with the ilok service so far but I dread the day it breaks and I have to pay to retrieve the 14 licenses I have on it.

my iLok already broke

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Response to Worst VST instrument plugins? 2013-11-06 11:08:32 Reply

At 11/5/13 06:57 PM, RetromanOMG wrote:
At 11/5/13 02:31 PM, CeeeX wrote: So, are you planning on using the worst vst plugins to make a new song with it? ;P
Please, somebody do this.

I'm also on the FlSlayer boat, I absolutely despise it. Tweakbench Monomate, a free squarewave VST, is the ugliest thing I've ever tried using, though. No overlayering of effects can make it sound good, from my experience.

Oh are you challenging us to make the best track using the worst VSTs ever?

I'm up for the challenge....I think.


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