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I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:14:08 Reply

When working with objects, if you are doing something correct, you will always gain the same results.

When working with people, even if you are doing something correct, you will not always gain the same results.

Perhaps the whole, "the wise do not consider themselves wise" is the result of them giving up on saying "I'm wise", because no matter how true it is in practice and demonstration, it contributes absolutely nothing to how others react to it, thus it was abandoned as a truth and turned into a white lie for better productivity.


You do not make examples, you make excuses; you do not solve problems, you shift problems; you do not stand behind your statements, you stand behind your stasis.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:24:08 Reply

perhaps the whole "the wise do not consider themselves wise" is the result of them recognizing how little they know & understand

--supergandhi64


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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:27:34 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:24 PM, supergandhi64 wrote: perhaps the whole "the wise do not consider themselves wise" is the result of them recognizing how little they know & understand

This is bollocks! They would not be searching as passionately as they do if this were true. Don't take everything people say with more than a grain of salt, there are reasons people do things out of characters. People like Einstein, Thomas Paine, Isaac Newton and Galileo lied about their beliefs inorder to stay alive in an era that is fatally intolerant towards non-believers.


You do not make examples, you make excuses; you do not solve problems, you shift problems; you do not stand behind your statements, you stand behind your stasis.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:28:33 Reply

But what if people are the objects, like slaves? Slaves never change, even you have freed them for thousands of year. *cough* sarcasm *cough*

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:30:09 Reply

The wise don't waffle either.


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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:32:04 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:30 PM, Lemonardo wrote: The wise don't waffle either.

Is it possible for a waffler to deem another a waffler? I think not!

At 10/27/13 12:28 PM, Elitistinen wrote: But what if people are the objects, like slaves? Slaves never change, even you have freed them for thousands of year. *cough* sarcasm *cough*

What are you alluding to?


You do not make examples, you make excuses; you do not solve problems, you shift problems; you do not stand behind your statements, you stand behind your stasis.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:40:18 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:32 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
At 10/27/13 12:28 PM, Elitistinen wrote: But what if people are the objects, like slaves? Slaves never change, even you have freed them for thousands of year. *cough* sarcasm *cough*
What are you alluding to?

People have been treated as an object for long time. I just try to pump a fallacy out of your hypothesis... What if people are the object?

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:42:38 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:32 PM, Insanctuary wrote:
At 10/27/13 12:30 PM, Lemonardo wrote: The wise don't waffle either.
Is it possible for a waffler to deem another a waffler? I think not!

Accusing someone of being something doesn't mean you must be its exact opposite.


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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 12:44:20 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:40 PM, Elitistinen wrote: People have been treated as an object for long time. I just try to pump a fallacy out of your hypothesis... What if people are the object?

"People" is the result of the subconscious, the conscious and the universe; I am not sure if the brain or the DNA strand is the core, but I do have suspicions that the DNA strand is the core of "what we are", while the brain is the core for "who we are".

People are not objects, or even things. They are results created entirely in the same way information runs through a machine and that machine incorporates that information into basic functions. The body, is not the "person". This is why you can never truly take away one's will, no matter how far you stomp them into the ground, or how long you keep them in the dark. The information that makes the "person" is unobtainable, for it is internal. It would be absurdly ridiculous to enslave someone, and then say "I objectified them", when you can't even 100% take away their will.


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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 13:03:32 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:24 PM, supergandhi64 wrote: perhaps the whole "the wise do not consider themselves wise" is the result of them recognizing how little they know & understand

--supergandhi64

I find it amusing that superghandi has essentially power phrased Socrates


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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 13:08:18 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:28 PM, Elitistinen wrote: But what if people are the objects, like slaves? Slaves never change, even you have freed them for thousands of year. *cough* sarcasm *cough*

A man chooses, a slave obeys.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 13:48:05 Reply

Oh, ffs.

I came to a wise conclusion!


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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 13:48:21 Reply

At 10/27/13 12:24 PM, supergandhi64 wrote: perhaps the whole "the wise do not consider themselves wise" is the result of them recognizing how little they know & understand

--supergandhi64

This is true. It basically comes from Socrates saying "I know that I know nothing".

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 13:51:48 Reply

At 10/27/13 01:48 PM, Makakaov wrote: This is true. It basically comes from Socrates saying "I know that I know nothing".

My post is already aware of this basic tripe. It does not make any sense, however! Why would someone that states how little they know, when 1. they know more than 99% of others, and 2. they seek knowledge and write down their knowledge with confidence...?


You do not make examples, you make excuses; you do not solve problems, you shift problems; you do not stand behind your statements, you stand behind your stasis.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 14:09:29 Reply

Your conclusion is not wise...
Wait, did I just unintentionally prove his point?


This is a sig you dumbass.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 14:10:09 Reply

At 10/27/13 02:09 PM, mechadude32 wrote: Wait, did I just unintentionally prove his point?

Yes.


You do not make examples, you make excuses; you do not solve problems, you shift problems; you do not stand behind your statements, you stand behind your stasis.

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Response to I came to a wise conclusion! 2013-10-27 15:20:19 Reply

Jimi Hendrix once said: "knowledge speaks, wisdom listens". I don't think LSD ever produced truer, more concise words.


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