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actually even Ulver's second album isn't metal, just the first and third

At 10/4/13 07:35 PM, Earfetish wrote: think maybe Nowhere Catastrophe is one of my favourite songs of all time

Definitely one of the best songs on that album along with Hallways of Always.

but I love all of their albums, even the much-maligned Lyckantropes Themes.

I didn't know that one was unpopular. I thought it was pretty good. In fact, Theme 7 is one of my favorite Ulver songs.

I still haven't heard their last two albums, but Wars of the Roses was good. Nothing on the level of Melancholy, Perdition City, or Blood Inside, though. I actually have a Blood Inside hoodie. It has these freemason symbols and stuff. Got it from Plastichead a few years ago along with my Solefald - Red for Fire/Black for Death hoodie.

At 10/4/13 07:38 PM, Earfetish wrote: actually even Ulver's second album isn't metal, just the first and third

Yes. Second was just folk music really.

At 9/30/13 11:08 PM, Wegra wrote: Not really the biggest music guy out there but what good artists or bands do you feel are going downhill? I'm all ears

In the grand scheme of things every band/artist that was at its peak before the year 2000 has gone downhill.

At 10/4/13 08:15 PM, Wriggle wrote:

At 9/30/13 11:08 PM, Wegra wrote: Not really the biggest music guy out there but what good artists or bands do you feel are going downhill? I'm all ears

In the grand scheme of things every band/artist that was at its peak before the year 2000 has gone downhill.

please elaborate

At 10/4/13 01:15 AM, HeavenDuff wrote:

At 10/3/13 09:14 PM, Rahmemhotep wrote: Music is only truly defined by the bands/artists who make it. SOAD has said on multiple occasions that they are not a nu metal band, like it or not. This is just how I see things, you really don't have to agree. I mean, yeah, they have elements of nu metal, but those guys have elements of FUCKING EVERYTHING in their music.

If Eminem told you he was the guitarist of a prog rock band, would you believe him? That's not how music works.

First off, if Eminem told me he was the guitarist of a prog rock band, I wouldn't have any immediate reason not to believe him. If he told me that Eminem was a prog rock effort, I'd say he was going about it the wrong way.

You're missing the whole idea of what I said and instead of disagreeing, you're trying to point out a pseudo fallacy.

More like it was THE THING from 99-04. Even though, at the time, there were only a few nu metal bands out there. Now there are tons, if you look for them.

Yeah, and no matter how hard they try, and no matter how good they are... they aren't metal bands.

Uh, that's because they're NU METAL. Why tell me this? I don't care about that shit.

At 10/2/13 03:43 PM, Entice wrote:

At 10/2/13 03:30 PM, Otto wrote: Punk classic

lol

I was being sarcastic
plz don't think I'm a pleb

Ah oops, sorry. My thumb is not on the pulse of BBS tone any longer.

At 10/4/13 08:44 PM, Viper50 wrote:

At 10/4/13 08:15 PM, Wriggle wrote: In the grand scheme of things every band/artist that was at its peak before the year 2000 has gone downhill.

Not necessarily. You have bands like Electric Wizard who to some people "peaked" at Dopethrone which came out right at 2000.

Solefald. Neonism (1999) was a masterpiece, but so is every single album since then so far. Also Melvins, Boris, Ulver, Tool (when is another album coming though?), Boards of Canada, etc.

At 10/4/13 08:15 PM, Wriggle wrote: In the grand scheme of things every band/artist that was at its peak before the year 2000 has gone downhill.

Just because a band isn't necessarily doing their absolute most vital work anymore doesn't mean they've "gone downhill"; there are plenty of artists who peaked before the '00s and have still made some great music since. Off the top of my head:

Paul McCartney, David Bowie, Superchunk, Beck, Swans, Richard Thompson, Bruce Springsteen, Jeff Tweedy, Guided By Voices, Built to Spill, Mark Kozalek, Bert Jansch, Mos Def and Talib Kweli...

At 10/5/13 02:06 PM, Viper50 wrote: To be honest I think Boris have released some of their best material ever post-2000.
I mean they released Flood in 2000, Heavy Rocks I in 2002, Feedbacker in 2003, Dronevil and Pink in 2005, and Heavy Rocks II in 2011. Not to mention all their stuff with Merzbow was done post-2000 as well.

All but one of my absolute favorite Boris albums (Pink, Heavy Rocks, Altar) came out in the '90s. That would be Amplifier Worship.

Avril Lavigne.

Started bad.

Ended worse.

Yeah, Huge is my favorite song on Amplifier Worship, too. My favorite on Altar, though, is the Sinking Belle (Blue Sheep).

At 10/4/13 03:31 PM, Dr-Worm wrote: I like how without fail every single conversation between metal fans will ultimately turn into an argument about what is and is not metal.

Not, this is how conversations between real metal fans and fake metal fans turn out ;P

Think about it.

At 10/4/13 03:33 PM, Jercurpac wrote: I like you. You're not afraid to make an incredibly stupid point.

You are missing the point, fuck face. What I meant is that the argument "They said they are not a nu-metal band so they aren't" is wrong. What makes your fall under one or another genre is what is actually found in your music, not what you pretend to be.

At 10/4/13 08:57 PM, Rahmemhotep wrote: You're missing the whole idea of what I said and instead of disagreeing, you're trying to point out a pseudo fallacy.

Well, explain me. I'm all ears.

At 10/5/13 02:40 PM, Viper50 wrote: Also I've always thought of Altar as being a Sunn O))) album more than anything else.

Why would you think that?

At 10/5/13 05:08 PM, Wegra wrote: Isn't she supposed to be like Wannabe punk?

I think so although Pink i worse for that.

At 10/5/13 03:35 PM, HeavenDuff wrote:
What I meant is that the argument "They said they are not a nu-metal band so they aren't" is wrong. What makes your fall under one or another genre is what is actually found in your music, not what you pretend to be.

And I said you didn't have to agree, for one thing.

At 10/4/13 08:57 PM, Rahmemhotep wrote: You're missing the whole idea of what I said and instead of disagreeing, you're trying to point out a pseudo fallacy.

Well, explain me. I'm all ears.

Nah, I was clear enough to suit my own devices.

At 10/4/13 08:06 PM, Sense-Offender wrote: I still haven't heard their last two albums, but Wars of the Roses was good. Nothing on the level of Melancholy, Perdition City, or Blood Inside, though. I actually have a Blood Inside hoodie. It has these freemason symbols and stuff. Got it from Plastichead a few years ago along with my Solefald - Red for Fire/Black for Death hoodie.

I'm always fascinated by how similar how musical tastes are. A Quick Fix Of Melancholy and Perdition City are some of my absolute favorite albums ever :) I still haven't given enough listens to Blood Inside, though.

At 10/5/13 08:16 PM, Rahmemhotep wrote: And I said you didn't have to agree, for one thing.

Yeah, and that's what I did.