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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 12:58 AM Reply

As bad as this sounds I think Newgrounds needs to move to just a thumbs up / thumbs down system. Are people still taking the time to rate something from 0 to 5 anymore? How many people are just rating 0 or 5?

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 01:20 AM Reply

What we need is a system to clear out the garbage that made it through the portal. There are submissions that have like 0.10 stars.

I don't even think my 8.whatever voting power is even worth anything more than 1 vote. I know for sure its worth 1 in art and audio since I can see my voting influence against a single other voter, even though it says 7.whatever (none blam/save power) its always the mean of the two votes.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 01:29 AM Reply

Oh praise Xenu! It's about time.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 01:33 AM Reply

Raising the bar for submissions to be blammed is long overdue and is a welcome addition. The core issue remains though. I have no brilliant solution but can anyone deny the real problem is an incentive to vote? You want MORE users voting. All that's changed is less votes are needed for submissions to pass UJ, which results in less purple wall monsters. I hope you continue to make positive changes Tom.

Also the zombie theme is pretty rad.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 01:47 AM Reply

At 8/28/13 12:58 AM, Masculine wrote: Are people still taking the time to rate something from 0 to 5 anymore? How many people are just rating 0 or 5?

It's been that way a long time, bro.

Since the introduction of the voting system there's been ass clowns who think they are somehow serving the community with "eek clock crap, i haz blam before preloader finishes - yay oneylobsteraptor, ima vote five if he farts on a tablet."

Unfortunately, there is no solution to this problem that wouldn't throttle everybody for the behaviors of the idiotic few.

You will notice that you don't see a lot of animators downvoting or 0 reviewing their peers. Because even oneylobsteraptor knows what it takes to develop a skill set and the value of constructive advice over "i dint get the joke and theres no sonic or anime so heres a 0."

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 02:12 AM Reply

At 8/27/13 03:05 PM, TeslaShockwave wrote:
At 8/27/13 03:01 PM, brynimation wrote: That's cool! This will ensure that newgrounds will be filled with only quality content! Great work Tom!
No. No it won't. Just content of a slightly less turdish than before.

Haha, I suppose. Good point well made sir!

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 03:03 AM Reply

Sounds good, it's blamming time :)


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 03:35 AM Reply

no now i'm going to have to put time into my stuff. -_- but at least there will be better stuff on the site


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 04:33 AM Reply

Fantastic news Tom, I've advocated for a while that the system needed a kick up the backside. Maybe this will finally start on the way to most users voting fairly; I imagine if you continued to blindly vote 5 on crap now then it would be a matter of a few high VP users voting fairly to nullify your vote, blam the submission (with the aid of some other honest users) and cause you to lose out in B/P terms.

On a personal level, this is the best portal-related news since the mods were introduced.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 04:47 AM Reply

At 8/27/13 02:58 PM, TomFulp wrote: The judgment system has been updated. Movies and games can now get blammed as early as 50 votes and as late as 150 (vs 200). The final threshold is 1.75 vs 1.6, so slightly more stuff can get blammed.

The REALLY COOL IMPROVEMENT is that games and movies can now get SAVED ahead of schedule.

50 Votes: BLAM if 1 or below, SAVE if 3 or above.
100 Votes: BLAM if 1.5 or below. SAVE if 2.5 or above.
150 Votes: BLAM if 1.75 or below. SAVE otherwise.

Good stuff previously had to wait out 200 votes.

DEFEAT THE PURPLE MENACE!

Go vote and the judgment list should finally clear up! With a little luck, it will stay that way. Also you're all competing for a smaller window with blam and save points, since 200 people can't jump in per submission anymore.

If content isn't showing for you, CLEAR YOUR CACHE PLEASE!

IMO this is an improvement, but wouldn't there still be the issue of a lot of stuff passing judgement because there are either sock puppets being used or a very small, but dedicated following for the garbage animations? Once it's up, it clogs the flash portal. So, there are just enough votes to pass judgement quickly, but enough negative vote to reflect it being basically crap

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 04:54 AM Reply

well..this should make things more interesting:3

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 05:11 AM Reply

At 8/28/13 12:58 AM, Masculine wrote: As bad as this sounds I think Newgrounds needs to move to just a thumbs up / thumbs down system. Are people still taking the time to rate something from 0 to 5 anymore? How many people are just rating 0 or 5?

For me, if something is terrible it's 0. If it brings nothing new or interesting, it's a 2. If it's good, it's a 5. Unless it's from someone I follow, then it's a 4-4.5 unless I see improvement from them. Then it's a 5.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 05:45 AM Reply

Well, that's good. That doesn't mean that NG from now on will feature only quality stuff, but it improve the portal I guess.Good job.


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 06:02 AM Reply

BTW from the looks of it, there are older submissions under judgment that are stuck in limbo, maybe they had over 150 votes before the new system went live and the catch-all isn't working - it's getting looked into.

Once that is sorted, the purple should be back to safe levels!


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 06:13 AM Reply

We gonna vote for now!


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 07:12 AM Reply

Portal is looking mighty fine this morning!


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 07:12 AM Reply

At 8/27/13 02:58 PM, TomFulp wrote: DEFEAT THE PURPLE MENACE!

I lol'd.


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 07:46 AM Reply

isn't the number 1 rule of the judgment to never talk about it?

damn it, Tom


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 09:07 AM Reply

Less trash, more gold!


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 09:55 AM Reply

So... you DO read the forums...


"if you put quotes here you're an idiot" mechadude32 These are the jokes, people...

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 10:09 AM Reply

I was just in the portal and there wasn't purple everywhere.

Nice job!


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 10:21 AM Reply

At 8/28/13 12:58 AM, Masculine wrote: As bad as this sounds I think Newgrounds needs to move to just a thumbs up / thumbs down system. Are people still taking the time to rate something from 0 to 5 anymore? How many people are just rating 0 or 5?

Um, there are those of us who take time to review in great detail and would only give 0 if it is awful beyond even noob standards.

Seriously, don't have NG change the whole voting system just because of a few bad apples who vote 0 or 5. The vast majority of votes I get are based on what reviews I get, so 3s, 4s and 5s. 0s are reserved for 0-bombers, but they've always been there. We're not YouTube, and we DARN RIGHT DO NOT NEED TO BE LIKE THEM.


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 11:04 AM Reply

I couldn't have done it better myself, I feel like voting again.


original I am.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 11:34 AM Reply

At 8/27/13 02:58 PM, TomFulp wrote: If content isn't showing for you, CLEAR YOUR CACHE PLEASE!

There's WAY too much content showing for me. I open up my movie and see Nicolas Cage being interviewed by Metacafe. Why Tom, WHY!?

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 11:39 AM Reply

At 8/28/13 11:34 AM, Makakaov wrote:
At 8/27/13 02:58 PM, TomFulp wrote: If content isn't showing for you, CLEAR YOUR CACHE PLEASE!
There's WAY too much content showing for me. I open up my movie and see Nicolas Cage being interviewed by Metacafe. Why Tom, WHY!?

420 yolo #swag


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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 11:47 AM Reply

Excellent! I'm delighted to see this improvement, the situation is looking a lot better already.
Problem is, I can't view a couple of the submissions because they are, quote-unquote, "not compatible with touchscreen devices".

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I'm using a laptop.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 11:48 AM Reply

At 8/28/13 11:47 AM, EVanimations wrote: Excellent! I'm delighted to see this improvement, the situation is looking a lot better already.
Problem is, I can't view a couple of the submissions because they are, quote-unquote, "not compatible with touchscreen devices".

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I'm using a laptop.

False alarm, they're working now for some reason.

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 12:19 PM Reply

Judgment Update? What is This?

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 12:20 PM Reply

FREE AT LAST, FREE AT LAST!

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Response to Judgment Update, Go Vote! Aug. 28th, 2013 @ 12:31 PM Reply

This really worked wonders already.