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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-24 20:11:40 Reply

At 8/23/13 04:03 PM, poxpower wrote: Where is the outrage?
Pool ownership is not even constitutionally protected, why are we allowing to have them? The per-pool rate of children death is probably way higher than the per-gun rate of child death.

Let's not even start on car-related deaths

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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-24 21:37:35 Reply

At 8/24/13 07:16 PM, RacistBassist wrote:
At 8/24/13 06:41 PM, Fim wrote: How terrible of me trying to shove good intentions down people's throats haha, how dare I try and get you to think about a real problem that costs people their lives. This is not an isolated incident, it is symptomatic of a broken system in the US that keeps producing stories like this. When tens of thousands die every year you think the best solution is to do nothing?
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. Some other quotes.

Excuse me for getting a little deep here, but I'm coming around to the notion that the whole cause of friction in the gun comtrol debate boils down to the different fundamental ideas of a perfect future between people on both sides of this debate. It sounds like the people on the pro gun side want a future where everybody is allowed whatever they want regardless of how it effects things like crime and gun homicides (correct me if that's not what you think), whereas people on the pro control side want a future where nobody is allowed guns besides perhaps gun clubs, police or military. And both are trying to take gradual steps towards realising that ideal future, which is why no compromises can be made. The sad thing is is that from my perspective the guys on the pro gun side have made the decision that even if their policies risk inevitable loss of life they are willing to accept that as long as they get what they want, whereas the pro control guys think that it's not a fair trade off, and that it is inevitable that even if 99% of people are responsible gun owners that 1% cause tragic things like a hook, or a columbine.

I might just do a topic outlining my points / arguments for gun control and save myself writing out massive shpeels like this every time there's a gun related topic lol.


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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-24 21:42:43 Reply

At 8/23/13 04:37 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 8/23/13 04:03 PM, poxpower wrote: Where is the outrage?
Pool ownership is not even constitutionally protected, why are we allowing to have them? The per-pool rate of children death is probably way higher than the per-gun rate of child death.
STRAWMAN.

Okay.

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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-24 21:51:48 Reply

At 8/24/13 09:42 PM, Ononymous wrote: Okay.

Psst:

That's exactly what a strawman is, making it ironic that you would parrot someone else's cartoon as an ad hominem against Camarohusky.


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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-25 00:25:43 Reply

At 8/24/13 09:37 PM, Fim wrote: I might just do a topic outlining my points / arguments for gun control and save myself writing out massive shpeels like this every time there's a gun related topic lol.

and they will al get shot down because some of us know American gun politics.

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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-25 01:01:28 Reply

At 8/25/13 12:25 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: and they will al get shot down because some of us know American gun politics.

Like those who thought the AWB was going to be renewed and that the UN was coming to take America's small arms away? Honest question.

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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-25 01:53:20 Reply

At 8/25/13 01:01 AM, Feoric wrote:
At 8/25/13 12:25 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: and they will al get shot down because some of us know American gun politics.
Like those who thought the AWB was going to be renewed and that the UN was coming to take America's small arms away? Honest question.

Feinstein had her way she herself said "She would ban all Firearms" if she had enough votes in the senate and that AWB was pretty close in the senate even for my taste.

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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-25 09:41:07 Reply

At 8/24/13 09:42 PM, Ononymous wrote: Okay.

Dude, that's like the most educational comic I've ever read. It doesn't explain anything, but damn!

Anyway, I hear that Australia has had practically no mass shootings since the one with Martin Bryant, but I don't know their gun laws.


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Response to AR-15 murders family 2013-08-25 13:17:37 Reply

At 8/25/13 12:27 AM, DecimatorOmega wrote: That's fucked up.

Well indeed it was. But don't blame as "IT WAS THE GUN'S FAULT!"

The redneck family was clearly mishandling the weapon. Weapons don't kill yourself, only idiots who mishandled weapons get that treatment.