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At 7/14/13 09:35 PM, hecticjon wrote: yeah instead of being racist i'm gonna be misogynist thanks y'all

jk i have unreserved hate for everyone

At 7/14/13 09:35 PM, hecticjon wrote: yeah instead of being racist i'm gonna be misogynist thanks y'all

If that's a crack at my above comment, go take some social psychology classes and learn a bit about your fellow men and women.

I'm not misogynist, but you sure are opinionated about educated statements.

At 7/14/13 06:17 PM, Sequenced wrote:

At 7/14/13 05:55 PM, Revo357912 wrote:
Why did Zimmerman have the wounds?
Because Trayvon attacked him.

would you throw a punch at someone who was stalking you for no reason and you told him go fuck off but he wouldn't?

I'm sure you would.

Either that or call the police. That's why I think Zimmerman deserves some kind of punishment as well. He basically manipulated the stand your ground law to his advantage.

Because he was instigated in some way or form by someone who didn't have any ID or uniform and because I'm pretty sure he didn't know Zimmerman had a gun.

poor handling on zimmerman's part.

That, if anything, shows the biggest flaw in that gun law.
You can basically instigate anyone you want to kill while hiding your gun since you don't even have to announce it, and as soon as they strike you shoot 'em dead.

instead of shooting him dead why not just take a shot at his foot or somewhere that won't kill a kid.

again, poor handling on zimmerman

Well, by then it would have been kind of too hard to do since Trayvon was on top of him.
This whole mess was, in reality, Zimmerman's fault, and Trayvon's for not calling the police or just trying to get away from Zimmerman when Zimmerman hadn't done the first attack.

It was just all plain old stupidity, although most of that stupidity lies on Zimmerman, yet he was the one least punished here.

At 7/14/13 09:33 PM, Psycho666 wrote:

At 7/14/13 08:15 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Get Over it. the evidence that supported Self Defense outweighed anything the prosecution had. and the fact the judge FAVORED THE PROSECUTION and had a all woman jury just furthers prove of not guilty.

This trial was completely rigged. White women, as a group, are statistically the most likely to be afraid of being attacked by black men.

Racist much? How do you know that these ladies were biased to zimmerman? If this was a proven fact they could have removed them and searched once again for more unbiased people, however this wasn't the case.

How can you have an impartial jury made up of all women? You can't! There should have been an interracial, mixed sex, fairly proportioned jury.

I ask you again how do you know that the juror weren't impartial? Unless you have powers to read these women's minds and know them inside out there is no way you can tell that they weren't impartial. That would be like me saying that the trial was rigged in the the boy's favor because 5 black men were on trial and they all voted guilty to him.

This isn't justice, it's just bullshit, a "white-latino," and a dead black boy who was trying to defend himself from a racist stalker who got out of a car and tried to hunt him down.

The facts and laws were on zimmerman's side and the defense used this to their advantage. if the procesution wasn't such a joke then maybe Zimmerman would have gotten what the most people that are upset over the ruling deserved. However this isn't the case.

At 7/14/13 09:13 PM, Cootie wrote: Even 99% doesn't cut it in a court of law, and I'm thankful for that. I would rather ten guilty men go free, than once innocent be jailed.

In other words, the better skilled you are at murdering or being a criminal, the better your odds of getting away with what you do. And a crime or murder typically involves much planning.

And yet, the opposite is going to be true for someone innocent, because by being innocent they are not criminals and did not plot for a crime, yet for that same reason would have the highest chances of being jailed since they wouldn't have a solid way of escaping "evidence" since they are innocently involved.

Therefore, by your philosophy, there would be a much better chance for killers and criminals to get away with a crime than there would for innocent people, because the majority of those in court are killers and criminals while fewer are actually innocent.

tl;dr

easy to be found not guilty = more guilty people walking away free because most who end up in courts are truly not innocent.

At 7/14/13 09:48 PM, LittleWashu wrote:

At 7/14/13 09:33 PM, Psycho666 wrote:

At 7/14/13 08:15 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Get Over it. the evidence that supported Self Defense outweighed anything the prosecution had. and the fact the judge FAVORED THE PROSECUTION and had a all woman jury just furthers prove of not guilty.

This trial was completely rigged. White women, as a group, are statistically the most likely to be afraid of being attacked by black men.

Racist much? How do you know that these ladies were biased to zimmerman? If this was a proven fact they could have removed them and searched once again for more unbiased people, however this wasn't the case.

Likewise, how do you know they weren't biased towards Trayvon?
I doubt they gave potential jurors serious tests to find out who was or wasn't biased.
Not to mention the statistic he gave checks out.

How can you have an impartial jury made up of all women? You can't! There should have been an interracial, mixed sex, fairly proportioned jury.

I ask you again how do you know that the juror weren't impartial? Unless you have powers to read these women's minds and know them inside out there is no way you can tell that they weren't impartial. That would be like me saying that the trial was rigged in the the boy's favor because 5 black men were on trial and they all voted guilty to him.

It would be impartial simply to the lack of cultural and socio-cultural variety. Women can't understand violence in these scenarios involving men the same way a man would (the same would be true on certain situations involving women; for example, a man cannot simply understand pregnancy the same way a woman who has gone through it would). Therefore, by simply adding at least one of the opposite gender, he can help out balance out linear beliefs by explaining to the rest.
The same goes for cultural background, and to some degree, racial background.
Those things too affect how one looks at things.
By having all white women, your really limiting the scope of options and beliefs when it comes to analyzing the trial and making a decision.

Then there are also the studies which show how an all woman group are much more likely to vote not guilty in trials, and how when a group is of the same gender, they more easily decide on one thing.

Basically, the jury was not well formed.

This isn't justice, it's just bullshit, a "white-latino," and a dead black boy who was trying to defend himself from a racist stalker who got out of a car and tried to hunt him down.

The facts and laws were on zimmerman's side and the defense used this to their advantage. if the procesution wasn't such a joke then maybe Zimmerman would have gotten what the most people that are upset over the ruling deserved. However this isn't the case.

And that is the shame of it all and the reason riots have started and that Zimmerman is now gonna have to watch out someone doesn't kill him for a couple of years.

At 7/14/13 08:22 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: OBAMA ON TRAYVON MARTIN VERDICT!

he says let shit rest LOL! SOURCE!

Holly shit. I actually agree with Oduma on something.

It's over, not guilty was the verdict. Move on.

But it is hilarious to see the fighting (namely Xenomit) in this thread. Guess some people in this thread are on their periods. :P

At 7/14/13 10:01 PM, Revo357912 wrote:

At 7/14/13 09:48 PM, LittleWashu wrote:

At 7/14/13 09:33 PM, Psycho666 wrote:

At 7/14/13 08:15 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: Get Over it. the evidence that supported Self Defense outweighed anything the prosecution had. and the fact the judge FAVORED THE PROSECUTION and had a all woman jury just furthers prove of not guilty.

This trial was completely rigged. White women, as a group, are statistically the most likely to be afraid of being attacked by black men.

Racist much? How do you know that these ladies were biased to zimmerman? If this was a proven fact they could have removed them and searched once again for more unbiased people, however this wasn't the case.

Likewise, how do you know they weren't biased towards Trayvon?

I wasn't the one accusing the jurors of being biased now was I? I asked this question because OP was accusing them of being biased

I doubt they gave potential jurors serious tests to find out who was or wasn't biased.

Actually they did if you were paying attention in the beginning the kicked quite a few people and jurors because they were proven to be biased towards trayvon.

Not to mention the statistic he gave checks out.

Statistic =/= biased. That would be like me saying that all black people are getto when this isn't the truth either.

How can you have an impartial jury made up of all women? You can't! There should have been an interracial, mixed sex, fairly proportioned jury.

I ask you again how do you know that the juror weren't impartial? Unless you have powers to read these women's minds and know them inside out there is no way you can tell that they weren't impartial. That would be like me saying that the trial was rigged in the the boy's favor because 5 black men were on trial and they all voted guilty to him.

It would be impartial simply to the lack of cultural and socio-cultural variety. Women can't understand violence in these scenarios involving men the same way a man would (the same would be true on certain situations involving women; for example, a man cannot simply understand pregnancy the same way a woman who has gone through it would). Therefore, by simply adding at least one of the opposite gender, he can help out balance out linear beliefs by explaining to the rest.
The same goes for cultural background, and to some degree, racial background.
Those things too affect how one looks at things.
By having all white women, your really limiting the scope of options and beliefs when it comes to analyzing the trial and making a decision.

No offense but that just sounded sexist. Not all women are the same and we don't know their experiences. While it is true men and women can do some of the same things, your assumption with these females can't be 100% proven.

Also as I stated before they did check out many jurors and gave them a test to see if they were biased towards any side and while I know the test isn't perfect, there were already many other factors that cause them to do this. Remember Zimmerman has a right to a fair trial just like everyone else, and with the media blowing this story up making Zimmerman out to be a child killer while the murder victim look like he was pure and innocent (Neither of which are the case) finding unbiased jurors was a bit of a challenge.

Then there are also the studies which show how an all woman group are much more likely to vote not guilty in trials, and how when a group is of the same gender, they more easily decide on one thing.

Basically, the jury was not well formed.

This isn't justice, it's just bullshit, a "white-latino," and a dead black boy who was trying to defend himself from a racist stalker who got out of a car and tried to hunt him down.

The facts and laws were on zimmerman's side and the defense used this to their advantage. if the procesution wasn't such a joke then maybe Zimmerman would have gotten what the most people that are upset over the ruling deserved. However this isn't the case.

And that is the shame of it all and the reason riots have started and that Zimmerman is now gonna have to watch out someone doesn't kill him for a couple of years.

In this is why I feel sorry for humanity as a whole. from the get go the rioters want zimmerman to go the jail for murder when the law was on his side. A lot of them didn't care about that. Many saw it as

Young black kid get's shot by hispanic, and he must go to jail even if it was self defense and the law was on his side.

As I said before if several things were done differently the kid would have lived.

Zimmerman could have followed what the operator told him to do but he didn't because he wasn't ordered to.

The boy could have also not attacked and used his words instead of his fists.

There are many other things that could have been done but they weren't.

Didn't want to make a new thread about it but here's a livestream of the riots in NYC for anyone who wants to see.

http://www.vice.com/read/live-streaming-trayvon-martin-prote sts-in-new-york

At 7/14/13 09:27 PM, LittleWashu wrote: Stuff

This is exactly what I've been saying, and I honestly can't believe that some people here are all up in arms about the ruling. There was a fair trial, and Zimmerman was found not guilty by a jury of his peers, mostly due to the shitty prosecution and well done defense by Zimmerman's lawyers. Unfortunately, Al Sharpton and the NAACP seem to be carrying on this fight, and attempt to press charges on him again, if not blackball him for the rest of his life by these assholes.

To Psycho666, I can't understand where you would get this rather misogynistic view of the jury, much less accuse them of being impartial. You have absolutely no proof of your comments, and it makes you look like an ass.

And to Xenomit, just because the Z man was found not guilty, doesn't give you the excuse to whine like a 6 year old who got his toy taken away. There was a FAIR TRAIL, and he was found not guilty, so shut up, and get over it.

ITS HAPPENING

http://www.vice.com/read/live-streaming-trayvon-martin-prote sts-in-new-york

At 7/14/13 10:34 PM, Cordyceps wrote: ITS HAPPENING

http://www.vice.com/read/live-streaming-trayvon-martin-prote sts-in-new-york

seriously there's a fucking riot here

I'll say it right now. If I ever met Zimmerman, on the street, I'd kill him and knock my head on the pavement too. He should have followed orders, and stayed in the car. He went all vigilante and got away with murder, plain and simple.

by the way anybody else kicking themselves for not buying up Skittles stock when this shit went down? People are buying it just to protest, and look at all the free advertising they're getting. Sales must be through the roof.

At 7/14/13 10:58 PM, Cordyceps wrote: by the way anybody else kicking themselves for not buying up Skittles stock when this shit went down? People are buying it just to protest, and look at all the free advertising they're getting. Sales must be through the roof.

Sorry dude, Skittles is part of Wrigley's, which is a subsidiary of MARS candy. MARS candy is privately owned, so it is immune to wallstreet's bullshit.

Your zimmermans will be free and your nations will burn.

At 7/14/13 10:56 PM, Psycho666 wrote: I'll say it right now. If I ever met Zimmerman, on the street, I'd kill him and knock my head on the pavement too. He should have followed orders, and stayed in the car. He went all vigilante and got away with murder, plain and simple.

He wasn't ordered he was advised there is a difference. If he was ordered to do something he could have been brought up on charges for disobeying orders not to mention that would have been something that the prosecution could have used that would have been solid.

However since he was advised to do so and was within his rights to do what he did he didn't do anything wrong here unless unknowingly making bad choices is a crime. And if that was a crime then 90% of the world's population if not more would be in jail for this.

At 7/14/13 11:03 PM, kisame wrote: Your zimmermans will be free and your nations will burn.

Fuck it. Fuck everything. Fuck the world and fuck everyone in it.

Thats going to be a lot of condoms.....

At 7/14/13 10:34 PM, Cordyceps wrote: ITS HAPPENING

http://www.vice.com/read/live-streaming-trayvon-martin-prote sts-in-new-york

seriously there's a fucking riot here

Christ, the comments consist of people yelling the N word, saying 4chon, and also reddit

At 7/14/13 11:08 PM, LittleWashu wrote:

At 7/14/13 10:56 PM, Psycho666 wrote: I'll say it right now. If I ever met Zimmerman, on the street, I'd kill him and knock my head on the pavement too. He should have followed orders, and stayed in the car. He went all vigilante and got away with murder, plain and simple.

He wasn't ordered he was advised there is a difference. If he was ordered to do something he could have been brought up on charges for disobeying orders not to mention that would have been something that the prosecution could have used that would have been solid.

However since he was advised to do so and was within his rights to do what he did he didn't do anything wrong here unless unknowingly making bad choices is a crime. And if that was a crime then 90% of the world's population if not more would be in jail for this.

You're right. You're completely 100% legally correct. It doesn't take away my right to point out what is completely wrong with it though.

In a country where you're innocent until proven guilty, Trayvon Martin posed a risk to Zimmerman if he had been left alive. Alive, Trayvon was a witness, a victim, and at the very least, a few weeks in court, paying for lawyers and attorneys.

Dead, Trayvon is a challenge, an obstacle to overcome, but not a threat. Dead, Trayvon cannot defend himself. He represents a story that only one man knows, and only one man has true control over the details of that night, which is Zimmerman.

I get steamed up, sure, because Trayvon wasn't armed, and Zimmerman was much bigger, and older than him.

That didn't justify deadly force, he should have learned to take a beating with humility, not with deadly force. I think that's what criminals do, they kill people for damaged pride, for losing in an embarrassing ways.

Neighborhood Watch. Zimmerman was in the neighborhood, he watched, but then he became something else. Neighborhood Vigilante. Zimmerman exited his vehicle, with a weapon, and attempted to locate Trayvon. That alone is enough probable cause to imply that he had premeditated the use of the weapon.

At 7/14/13 06:00 PM, Sielumetsien wrote:

At 7/14/13 04:59 PM, 372 wrote:

At 7/14/13 04:50 PM, Willianatiortrio wrote: TELL THEM TO BEHAVE! I WANNA SEE YOU MAKE A MOVIE CALLED BOWLING FOR BEHAVE!

Facts:
-Zimmerman was on neighborhood watch

Not a license to kill.

Has the rights to defend himself. SYG law still stands.

Defending himself, he was the one chasing the kid who was running away because he saw someone following him, did listen to the recording of zimmerman with the police?

-Zimmerman has a license to own a gun

Not a license to kill

Has the license for self-defence.

Self defense =/= running after kids with guns because they WEAR HOODIES IN THE FUCKING RAIN.

-Zimmerman CALLED the police

And they told him not to follow, but he continued anyway.

The police couldn't dictate who lived and who dead.

Read that over. And tell me that makes any fucking sense you moron.

-Zimmerman confronted Trayvon

Obviously

-Trayvon was walking in the middle of the night with a hoodie on

Yes because walking with a hoodie on is "sooo suspicious
."

Because it was raining you fucking moron. Why would you not wear your hood if its raining.

Try to walk in front of polices/neighborhood-watches with hoods on and see what happens next.

Are you....serious? I honestly can't tell if you're serious right now... I didn't know hoodies where breaking the law. lmfao

-Trayvon was walking in a neighborhood that wasn't his

Oh shoot, you're right, walking in a neighborhood that's NOT HIS?! you're right the death sentence was called for.

Idiotic at best. Was this your best line?

People are aloud to walk wherever they fucking want. Trayvon was buying 7/11 snacks you fucking moron.

-Trayvon is (was) taller than Zimmerman and in better shape

Zimmerman had a gun.

Returned to Willianatiortrio's 1st & 2nd lines.

-Zimmerman had bruises from the fight in the back of his head

Because he confronted stronger and taller person with a gun and the kid obviously tried to fight for his own life...

... by starting the fight first and trying to kill Zimmerman? Are you have a jellyfish's brain on?

Did you just claim punching someone because they're stalking you is the same as killing someone? Anyone by themselves sees a person following them they're gonna think he's trying to rob them or something. It's fucking obvious.

Way to represent your fucking race! Black people are not going to rest until white people are their slaves. That's going to be the only form of "equality" for them.

And you all know I'm not talking about all black people, cause there's black people with a fucking brain who are with Zimmerman on this.

Oh how surprising... you're obviously a really ignorant racist.

Fuck off.

Idiot's speaking. Then playing race cards.

OH YOU'RE AGAINST MY IDEOLOGIES, YOU MUST BE RACIST!

He just claimed that millions of people from african descent want white people enslaved... And that the only black people with brains are those who think Zimmerman had the right to kill Trayvon.
LMFAO AND I'M THE ONE PLAYING RACE CARDS?

You guys are both two ignorant fuck losers.

At 7/14/13 11:23 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:20 PM, Psycho666 wrote: That didn't justify deadly force, he should have learned to take a beating with humility, not with deadly force. I think that's what criminals do, they kill people for damaged pride, for losing in an embarrassing ways.

Holy shit I never read anything so stupid before. I expected more even for Newgrounds.

You're obviously too immature to put yourself into Zimmerman's situation. In the real world, people can fucking die. You can get beaten to death with just knuckles and elbows, kid.

You he chased a kid who was doing nothing wrong, with a hidden gun. You sound like you saw Trayvon nearly beat Zimmerman to death...
Zimmerman was barely beat up what the fuck are you talking about. A punching a strange dude following you does not = attempt at murder...

At 7/14/13 05:36 PM, Willianatiortrio wrote: I'll see you in the riots, and I hope you still have the same out look on it all.

Are you fucking retarded? Did you just say "I'll see you in the riots" ?

I just can't take stupid people.

At 7/14/13 11:27 PM, 372 wrote: You he chased a kid who was doing nothing wrong, with a hidden gun. You sound like you saw Trayvon nearly beat Zimmerman to death...
Zimmerman was barely beat up what the fuck are you talking about. A punching a strange dude following you does not = attempt at murder...

Seems this is more an argument on self defense rather than anything to do with the actual case.

And I'd have to wonder where you're getting your information if you think he was barely beat up.

At 7/14/13 11:23 PM, 372 wrote:
Did you just claim punching someone because they're stalking you is the same as killing someone? Anyone by themselves sees a person following them they're gonna think he's trying to rob them or something. It's fucking obvious.

Actually something like this happened to me before as well. The person was lost and needed help and the guy began following me for the past 10 blocks. I at the time wasn't feeling comfortable at the time either and didn't know the guy was lost. However in my cause instead of using my fists I asked him straight up why was he following me.

He answered he was lost and needed help finding some place.

My point is not everyone who is getting followed like this will think the same way. Also not everyone solves problems with violence either.

At 7/14/13 11:34 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:27 PM, 372 wrote: You he chased a kid who was doing nothing wrong, with a hidden gun. You sound like you saw Trayvon nearly beat Zimmerman to death...
Zimmerman was barely beat up what the fuck are you talking about. A punching a strange dude following you does not = attempt at murder...

Seems this is more an argument on self defense rather than anything to do with the actual case.

And I'd have to wonder where you're getting your information if you think he was barely beat up.

He looks like he got punched in the nose...not nearly beat to death

At 7/14/13 11:39 PM, LittleWashu wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:23 PM, 372 wrote:

My point is not everyone who is getting followed like this will think the same way. Also not everyone solves problems with violence either.

Yeah well what if the guy said "I have a gun get out of my neighborhood" Or "We have a real problem with blacks robbing things around here"
He's only 17. Zimmerman has been provoked to throw a punch. Doesn't mean he deserved to be shot for it.

At 7/14/13 11:34 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:27 PM, 372 wrote: You he chased a kid who was doing nothing wrong, with a hidden gun. You sound like you saw Trayvon nearly beat Zimmerman to death...
Zimmerman was barely beat up what the fuck are you talking about. A punching a strange dude following you does not = attempt at murder...

Seems this is more an argument on self defense rather than anything to do with the actual case.

And I'd have to wonder where you're getting your information if you think he was barely beat up.

He looks like he got punched in the nose...not nearly beat to death

At 7/14/13 11:23 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:20 PM, Psycho666 wrote: That didn't justify deadly force, he should have learned to take a beating with humility, not with deadly force. I think that's what criminals do, they kill people for damaged pride, for losing in an embarrassing ways.

Holy shit I never read anything so stupid before. I expected more even for Newgrounds.

You're obviously too immature to put yourself into Zimmerman's situation. In the real world, people can fucking die. You can get beaten to death with just knuckles and elbows, kid.

And that brings me to one of the paramount psychological problems in America. Everyone thinks everyone is out to kill them.

Have you ever been in a fight? Whether you lost, or you won, did anyone die? I've never killed any of the morons that I've beaten up, and I've never been killed by any of the bigger morons that knocked the snot out of me.

Watching too much violent media has been proven to cause an expectation bias, wherein people with this violent expectation imagine even the slightest provocation leading to a violent end.

Now let's talk about the real world again.

In the real world, you've never held up your own ass without help.

In the real world, a grown man exited a vehicle with a loaded firearm to chase down someone walking in the rain.

At 7/14/13 11:46 PM, Psycho666 wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:23 PM, Cordyceps wrote:

At 7/14/13 11:20 PM, Psycho666 wrote: That didn't justify deadly force, he should have learned to take a beating with humility, not with deadly force. I think that's what criminals do, they kill people for damaged pride, for losing in an embarrassing ways.

Holy shit I never read anything so stupid before. I expected more even for Newgrounds.

You're obviously too immature to put yourself into Zimmerman's situation. In the real world, people can fucking die. You can get beaten to death with just knuckles and elbows, kid.

And that brings me to one of the paramount psychological problems in America. Everyone thinks everyone is out to kill them.

I could say the same for tyrawn here. He didn't know what why zimmerman was following him. In this cause he assumed the worse and threw the first punch. For all he knew Zimmerman could have wanted to know what time it was, where the liquor store was Etc. He didn't know this however, he assumed zimmerman was out to get him and did what he did. Not saying he wasn't in his right to think like that but just point that out.

Have you ever been in a fight? Whether you lost, or you won, did anyone die? I've never killed any of the morons that I've beaten up, and I've never been killed by any of the bigger morons that knocked the snot out of me.

I have been i quite a few fights myself. I won some I lost some. However while I can say I never killed anyone either there are some people who go too far in fights. Zimmerman in this cause was under travion and was getting his ass handed to him. Not to mention it was shown that Travion wasn't the most peaceful of teens either. While this wasn't known at the time Zimmberman also had every right to feel he was going to get killed as well.

Watching too much violent media has been proven to cause an expectation bias, wherein people with this violent expectation imagine even the slightest provocation leading to a violent end.

While this has been proven with some people I can say the same thing about this case having many biased people in it as well. The media and all those figure heads have done a real good job of twisting up this cause to the point where it took quite a bit of time for zimmerman to get his right to a fair trial. Left up to them even if everyone witnessed what happened and it was proven that Zimmerman was innocent and only acted in self defense the masses were so hell bent on punishing him that it wasn't funny.

Heck I even read a post in this thread saying they felt he deserve some punishment for the fact that he killed the kid even if it was self defense just because he shot the kid.

However as I said before both sides made some bad choices here.

Zimmerman didn't follow the advice he was given by the operator which could have saved the kid's life.

Travion choosing the use attack first ask questions later instead of asking him why was he following him which could have also save the Travion because if he had and tried to be peaceful instead of violent he would have found out why Zimmerman was following him and to exchange would have happened.

But alas this wasn't the case and now we have zimmerman free thanks the system and those who were upset about this rioting because they didn't lock zimmerman up and threw away the key. Zimmerman I believe will be blackballed when everyone who is unhappy is through but you know what that won't do? Bring back this boy who was shot and killed.