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of-legends-argument-6410871

You've probably heard about this story. Basically he made a joke on League of Legends, some over-reacting CANADIAN ( wtf ) bitter idiotic old crone ( I'm trying to be nice ) reported him to the police and the FBI fucking JAILED THIS KID. JAILED HIM. HE'S STILL IN JAIL TO THIS DAY FACING 8 YEARS IN PRISON.

For this comment: âEUoeSomeone had said something to the effect of 'Oh you're insane, you're crazy, you're messed up in the head,âEUTM" his father Jack Carter told Texas news station KVUE. "To which he replied 'Oh yeah, I'm real messed up in the head, I'm going to go shoot up a school full of kids and eat their still, beating hearts,âEUTM and the next two lines were lol and JK."

and the next two lines were lol and JK.
and the next two lines were lol and JK.
and the next two lines were lol and JK.

Someone needs to lose their jobs for this. 100% sure. This is the most egregious case of this "0 tolerance" bullshit I have EVER seen in my life. I cannot fathom the mental retardation of the humans involved in this case. EVERYONE who led to this guy going to jail - From the cops who ordered the investigation, to the arrest, to the judge and the fucking prison guards and owner SHOULD LOSE THEIR JOBS, IMMEDIATELY.

These humans are not fit to hold down jobs. They should lose their driver's license and access to all sharp objects and electrical appliances. Put these morons in a padded cell with no clothes for a while to teach the rest of these fuckers a lesson about messing with people's free speech and freedom, you disgusting imbeciles.

MAN THIS MAKES ME ANGRY. NOT LOL, NOT J/K.

I agree. This is a legalistic overreaction. Just release the man from prison and drop all charges.

Let's not deprive this person of his liberty for 8 years and give him a nasty criminal record just because he made a clearly facetious remark.

At 6/29/13 02:14 PM, Light wrote: I agree. This is a legalistic overreaction. Just release the man from prison and drop all charges.

That is not enough, someone needs to lose their jobs over this. You don't get to be that incompetent at anything in life and keep doing it.

If this was nature, the people involved in this would have ated the purple berries and died a long time ago.

Ahhhhh ..... America home of the brave & land of the free L M F A O

ITs a fucking joke to everyone in this part of Canada what America is turning into.
unfortunately it isn't a funny joke its a damn sick one ! ! !

It's shit like that that steered me to libertarianism in the first place. I'd like to know what the fuck was going through the Austin PD's mind when they decided to incarcerate this young man for something almost every teenager boy with an internet connection has done for decades. I agree with Pox in that pretty much everyone involved in this case needs to be canned ASAP such shortsightedness by public officials should by no means be tolerated.

At 6/29/13 02:51 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 6/29/13 02:19 PM, poxpower wrote: I mean, even if this particular case is dismissed, I don't think this is the last time something of this nature will happen.

It's not the first nor will it be the last.
The only path this directly leads to is East Germany / 1984.

Every time someone shoots up a school, we lose more freedom and the people in power get stupider / more evil.

If arrests and prosecutions for sarcastic internet talk become more frequent, are people going to just censor themselves willingly, or is there going to be some serious backlash (and if so, in the form of what)? What about if this guy is actually sentenced to jail time? What do you think everyone's response will be? What do you think people's response SHOULD be?

He's already in jail. He's been there for months while waiting for his trial. He's been transferred 4 times because the other inmates beat him up since they think he actually wants to shoot up schools.

People aren't doing SHIT except start online petitions. It's always up to the family of these VICTIMS, because this kid is a VICTIM to raise money to defend themselves and them sue the state (us) for the incompetence of these losers.

I can't tell you what to do about this except rewrite the law. I can't figure a system where you can prevent sociopaths from getting into positions of power.

But "everyone responsible should be fired" doesn't seem likely to happen at all.

Well no shit lol
:p

But they should. This is EXTREMELY EXTREMELY EGREGIOUS. What they did is the equivalent of a crime.

If I jailed some guy in my basement for a month and stole 50k from the bank, guess where I'd be going. This is what they did in my opinion, in full knowledge of the situation.

Shit even if they didn't read the comment and raided the house "just in case" because of some shrill bitch's paranoid ramblings. THEY NEED TO LOSE THEIR JOB.

At the very least, there is no doubt in my mind that the judge who charged this kid and sent him off to jail should lose his job and be banned from practicing law for life.

If all authority figures involved were just following procedure, then were they following it wrong, or is the procedure itself what is wrong?

I am not aware of any procedure that leads to this unless a bunch of very incompetent people are involved. There's thousands of similar comments posted online daily, why aren't the cops arresting those people?

and yet the assholes threatening to kill Zimmerman and/or white people and/or start riots if he's not convicted are still walking free.

seriously, if you're going to apply the law, apply it evenly.

Also I must stress again that school shootings account for a ridiculously small amount of deaths. It's NOT a problem that is worth losing ANY FREEDOMS over in my opinion.

Again, I blame the media. They are also corrupt to the core. Consistently people who keep informed via the net score better at pretty much everything than people who watch tv news do.

It's because of these fucking assholes covering school shooting for DAYS AND WEEKS that people get the impression it's a massive problem. They put nothing into perspective and then idiots like this lady freak the fuck out when they see jokes online. Some people are too slow-witted for sarcasm and jokes apparently. This kid is in jail because a Canadian woman failed to watch enough stand up comedy.

If this ever does go to court, which it should not. It will be quickly and easily overturned on appeal. There is no legal way that such speech can be restricted, especially in that it has very serious political value in that the use of sarcasm is one of the strongest current tools for political discourse in lay-talk.

some over-reacting CANADIAN ( wtf )

Hard to believe, but not all Canadians are friendly gung-ho neighbours who leave their doors unlocked :P

This issue is clearly a case of overreaction. Whatever happened to freedom of speech?

At 6/29/13 04:57 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

At 6/29/13 03:31 PM, poxpower wrote: Again, I blame the media.

So also, not to drag us into cupcake territory, but...

are they being intentionally misleading / incendiary, or are they like that by default, or do they simply recognize that riling up people keeps them tuning in, keeps the ratings up, and keeps the sponsors cutting checks for advertising air time?

I think back in the day newspapers and 'the media' liked to build a positive reputation about themselves and liked to pretend to be keeping the populace informed. At least, this was the face they put on. Before the internet, it would likely have been far harder to blow the whistle on any cooperation between the media and the state or any collusion and corruption.

Nowadays, all our favourite newspapers are migrating online, and their business model is shifting towards getting more pageclicks instead of selling more papers. I am absolutely certain that one way they do this is by riling people up, whether that's by campaigning inappropriately or by being annoyingly incorrect and misinformed about important issues. It is easier for people to highlight corrupt working practices, but people don't care as much as they would have cared in the past. The internet has immunised us to seeing the real conspiracies.

But the purpose of the media in society, whether it is a tool of social control or whether it provides checks and balances to authority or whether it's just for entertainment or whether it's a force for good - or a combination of all things - I don't know.

Anyway this 18-year-old's story is shit, we jail people for shit like that all the time in the UK, some even get convicted and serve time in jail for racially taunting celebrities, lol it's awful

At 6/29/13 04:53 PM, SteveGuzzi wrote:

It's disgusting, right? I haven't done enough research on this event to find out whether bail was denied outright or was set at an exorbitant amount -- but in any case, that he's been in jail for so long already and may face significantly more jail time is terrible.

Bail was set to 250k then raised to 500k.

Even I recognize that's just an idealistic pipe dream.

Yeah obviously as you need them to be able to change laws and thus by definition you can't prevent them from changing laws in their favor. And they eventually always will.

The only option is really reform of the school system and better social values. That's why the whole skeptic/atheism movement is great. It promotes critical thinking above everything else. That's what you want from every citizen and person in power.

I am all for being merciless to idiots and people who believe nonsense. Attack, attack, attack. Don't let these fuckers get away with nonsense or being wrong because "to each their own" and other such shit.

Eventually this is what this devolves into when you let everyone get away with being an idiot. We need to have a culture where everyone always gets on everyone else's case when they think they're wrong. On Facebook for instance.

Man I argue with people all the fucking time but everyone has this "This is not the place" type mentality. People think that laws and societies are made in some room somewhere where dudes debate about it. No. It's what you and your friends do and say to each other. That spreads. That's how you get people to stop being racist fucks for instance.

what are people to do about it?

Ideally, get involved more into politics. Protest more, stay informed, write to local politicians, vote etc. But that's such a fucking hassle honestly.

Vigilante-ism

Nah that just works in the short term, some other chowderhead would take his place and put in even more nazi-esque legislation into place.

Also -- movie for your movie list -- God Bless America. It's not Shakespeare or even Predator #1 w/Ahhnold... but it is a little slice of vicarious catharsis to enjoy for less than two hours.

haha :D ok

It's a terrible overreaction by all parties involved, especially that person who told the cops about a silly little empty threat that 99.9% of the time, rarely if ever gets noticed. Now I get that threatening anyone on a public server is a bad idea in more ways than one, {even as a joke} but at the same time, the odds that anyone would pull off said threat are minimal at best, considering that the Internet is worldwide, with a certain degree of anonymity available, you can't exactly pinpoint whoever you're threatening.

This is nothing more than a rare case of Internet overreaction, that should be dismissed by the courts.

i agree that this is a massive overreaction but coming from texas, i can't force myself to be half as surprised at this as i usuallly would be

At 6/29/13 02:19 PM, poxpower wrote:
That is not enough, someone needs to lose their jobs over this. You don't get to be that incompetent at anything in life and keep doing it.

I wish I could agree with you on this, though in my experience this is exactly what happens all the time - incompetent sleazy people get ahead while those that take responsibility get shit on.

Yeah, those guys should actually be arrested themselves for something like this, but they won't.

This kind of bullshit is why I hate the society we live in. He did absolutely nothing wrong, yet he is being treated like a criminal.

the united states of america has more people per 100,000 in jail or prison than the whole of europe combined, and by a wide margin too.
i suspect it's because of shit like this.

i mean it reminds me of sirtom93, except sirtom was actually gonna do it.

holy fuck i don't mean to overuse a quote but i don't want to live on this planet anymore

At 7/2/13 04:02 AM, Freaki-boy92 wrote: i suspect it's because of shit like this.

It's actually kind of funny that it doesn't happen that often at all, at least in America. The reason why there are so many criminals in American prisons is because of drug offenses or non-violent felonies, compared to those, this is nothing and will be dismissed, barring some weird courtroom issues.

He played league of legends, this is probably routine

Being as so many recent episodes of public shootings involved someone who had problems (usually mental) that weren't taken care of, I can't blame people for jumping the gun on this.
However
At most, this boy should have gotten a talking-to from an officer and potential psychiatric sessions. Jail is too much, imo, but I don't think it should have been simply swept under the rug.

At 6/29/13 01:59 PM, poxpower wrote:

Someone needs to lose their jobs for this. 100% sure. This is the most egregious case of this "0 tolerance" bullshit I have EVER seen in my life.

The sheeple who got this kid in trouble have 0 tolerance for rationality.

I remember this one time where I was in school and someone made a comment about wanting to blow up the school. They even did it in front of the whole class for a REPORT. That person never faced any bad consequences, outside some scolding, but he certainly wasn't put in jail. Then again, he wasn't of legal age. He might have been suspended, although I never heard about it.

At 6/29/13 01:59 PM, poxpower wrote: http://www.gamespot.com/news/texas-teen-jailed-after-league-
of-legends-argument-6410871

You've probably heard about this story. Basically he made a joke on League of Legends, some over-reacting CANADIAN ( wtf ) bitter idiotic old crone ( I'm trying to be nice ) reported him to the police and the FBI fucking JAILED THIS KID. JAILED HIM. HE'S STILL IN JAIL TO THIS DAY FACING 8 YEARS IN PRISON.

I'm glad that you're at least smart enough to see through this bullshit. This supposed terrorist threat is false. FALSE. They said they shot bin Laden and threw him in the ocean. Does this sound like a professional military operation to you? Let's not even get into Noriega, Ghaddafi and Saddam, all of who were put into power by the US. Shameful that kids are now becoming prey to this fucking lie that is being used by evil people to usurp economic power.

It's a lie and even though we might not be able to help this kid we can spread the word so that this bullshit dies. This and every other fake "war" they try to start.

At 7/7/13 11:36 AM, Poniiboi wrote: They said they shot bin Laden and threw him in the ocean. Does this sound like a professional military operation to you?

Yes, because if he had been buried in some grave it would become a pilgrimage site and a goal for Islamists to go to. There's a similar thing with Nazi/Neo-Nazi figures and everytime they're killed attracting Neo-Nazi's to them.

Let's not even get into Noriega, Ghaddafi and Saddam, all of who were put into power by the US. Shameful that kids are now becoming prey to this fucking lie that is being used by evil people to usurp economic power.

Ghaddaffi and Hussien were not put into power by the US. Why would the US want to put them into power anyway? Ghaddaffi was an Islamist Marxist and Hussein was a Nationalist Socialist (not Nazi though) both of whom had initial pro-Soviet leanings. Both replaced regimes which were more pro-western and keeping the Arab nations disunited. Even a retard wouldn't put them into power. Now circumstances change so that they became pro-West, Iraq was invaded by Iran and needed the supplies, Libya needed the outside help after the Cold War was over, but they were not put into power by the US.

At 7/7/13 09:22 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 7/7/13 11:36 AM, Poniiboi wrote: They said they shot bin Laden and threw him in the ocean. Does this sound like a professional military operation to you?

Yes, because if he had been buried in some grave it would become a pilgrimage site and a goal for Islamists to go to. There's a similar thing with Nazi/Neo-Nazi figures and everytime they're killed attracting Neo-Nazi's to them.

You goddamn idiot.

You might be right about Gaddafi not being directly tied to the West, which would give them even less reason to take him out, especially considering that Libya was one of the most stable states in Africa. Then they get mad when Egypt wants to be free. If you can't see that this is the Anglo American war machine actively looking for destabilization in that area, then I don't know what to tell you.

At 6/29/13 03:26 PM, Korriken wrote: and yet the assholes threatening to kill Zimmerman and/or white people and/or start riots if he's not convicted are still walking free.

seriously, if you're going to apply the law, apply it evenly.

And you shut the hell up trying to make this a domestic race issue. I already hate your ass enough anyway and when fucking Rahm Emanuel comes to put us both in FEMA camps, I'm only gonna have your stupid ass to rely on for cover fire.