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At 7/3/13 09:56 PM, BumFodder wrote: Why is it only in america that a public leaker is considered a criminal?

Taking a leak in public isn't illegal where you live?

At 7/3/13 11:44 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 7/3/13 09:56 PM, BumFodder wrote: Why is it only in america that a public leaker is considered a criminal?

Taking a leak in public isn't illegal where you live?

It depends on where you leak. If its not in the middle of a street in a settlement its not really illegal.

He's a hero by rights, but a criminal by laws.

Possibly neither here not there, but notice how this event has put a freeze on things like CISPA?

Also, Iceland is looking to grant Snowden citizenship, from what I understand.

At 7/4/13 09:09 PM, Disneyland-Diva wrote: Also, Iceland is looking to grant Snowden citizenship, from what I understand.

Do you have a source for this?

At 7/4/13 09:50 PM, Dawnslayer wrote:

At 7/4/13 09:09 PM, Disneyland-Diva wrote: Also, Iceland is looking to grant Snowden citizenship, from what I understand.

Do you have a source for this?

Sorry, meant to source earlier.
This result is newer than the one I originally saw.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2013/07/04/snowden/
2490501/

At 7/5/13 01:03 AM, Profanity wrote: Only six senators in Iceland are supporting the measure.

;;;
Looks like the asshole move by the( unknown source) who had the President of Bolivia's plane delayed in Europe has back fired ...now Snowden doesn't have to live in the Frigid Icelandic wilderness ...no he's got a villa in Bolivia or Venezuela waiting for him .

I hope he enjoys his new life in Central America, no matter which country he picks ~:D

I love a happy ending .

His initial act could be considered a good thing (not even close to "heroic" though) however, everything past that point was the act of a coward and a traitor, running to Hong Kong and all that shit. If he knew what he was doing was illegal, he should've taken the bullet and trusted that America would have him set free. America should know what lengths their government is taking to keep them safe, but other foreign countries, ally or no, should never have information on how we're spying on them.

All first world countries spy on one another, only a naive fool thinks other wise. Regardless of ally or foe, we need to know what's going on, keep your friends close and your enemies closer, this creed extends to everyone, his reckless ignorance might come to bite our asses.

I hope he get extradited, we need to know two things: What did you know when you left, and WHO did you share it with?

At 7/5/13 10:36 PM, HollowedPumkinz wrote: His initial act could be considered a good thing (not even close to "heroic" though) however, everything past that point was the act of a coward and a traitor...

Not treason. See previous discussion in this topic for explanation.

All first world countries spy on one another, only a naive fool thinks other wise.

It's not about the government spying on other countries, it's about the government spying on us. Pay attention.

At 7/5/13 09:39 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:

At 7/5/13 09:16 PM, morefngdbs wrote: I love a happy ending .

until he gets his Extradition or CIA Extraction, or his plane gets waylaid to a US friendly country and he's "picked up".

no happy endings for this guy.

;;;
You need to PAY ATTENTION ..to the unfolding story .
IF you want your comment(s) to be taken seriously.
NO One ...I REPEAT NO ONE was able to search the Bolivian aircraft. They diverted it. It landed. But when they asked to search a Diplomatic aircraft of the Bolivian 's.
The President denied their request & that was it.

So the attempt to stop Mr Snowden was averted if he was on the plane he could be anywhere because no one ...No Body Knows for sure where he is.

There are lots of ways to get from The USSR to anywhere that are not controlled by the USA & its puppet regimes.

Unless all European, India, Pakistan ..Iran (like they give a shit what the USA says)China & other nations divert every single aircraft leaving the Russian airspace. There is no way he can be stopped from getting to Central America especially if a country uses its diplomatic aircraft to fly him to their country.

As for CIA abducting him ...they aren't operating as freely in some areas as they used to. I'm not saying they aren't there, but Venezuela (as an example) will be just as happy to incarcerate or kill an American operative & show the person(s) or bodies on National TV as they are to condemn American Imperialism at every turn !

At 7/6/13 06:00 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: enough of that american imperialism crap.

I believe this specific mention of American imperialism was not meant to represent dbs' views, but rther the rhetoric that the unfriendly South American countries commonly use. (Hell, Chavez practially said those two words at the end of every sentence)

At 7/5/13 10:36 PM, HollowedPumkinz wrote: If he knew what he was doing was illegal, he should've taken the bullet and trusted that America would have him set free.

If anything he would assume the opposite, freedom of speech is very limited in america. its silly to assume otherwise

America should know what lengths their government is taking to keep them safe, but other foreign countries, ally or no, should never have information on how we're spying on them.

theres literally no other way to leak it

I'm just glad that someone came out and exposed the government's prism program.

At 7/7/13 12:39 AM, randomperson23 wrote: I'm just glad that someone came out and exposed the government's prism program.

Also, in Europe prism is illegal because it can monitor the internet data on a global scale, and since this is the US doing thas and not any european gov monitoring its own people, prism is illegal in europe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/18/how-can-
this-state-surveillance-be-legal

Its something that people needed to know, but he's no more of an hero than any other whistleblower, especially because he fled the country.

At 7/7/13 12:52 AM, randomperson23 wrote: Also, in Europe prism is illegal because it can monitor the internet data on a global scale, and since this is the US doing thas and not any european gov monitoring its own people, prism is illegal in europe.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2013/jun/18/how-can-
this-state-surveillance-be-legal

Exactly, in the US it was actually pretty legal since the government had passed legislation authorizing it, but this was illegal making the government liable to suite (although let's be honest by who? EU governments probably don't give a shit and how are foreigners supposed to sue?).

At 6/23/13 12:52 PM, mile667 wrote: How we see this guy who actually worked in in the CIA gived some secret informations about US spying the world and this is not any more a conspiracy theorie its true.And know US wants to catch him and he is on the run
what do you think is he a

traitor
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.joystiq.com/media/2007/07/arthas.
jpg

or hero
http://www.thejrexperiment.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/he ro.jpg
what do you think?

i thank him on how he told about how the nsa is spying on the people but after that he should have been shot in the head

I do not know if this topic is still running so i shall just leave a fast comment.

I belive that what Edward Snowden did was right, but he did it in a "wrong way" but maybe it was the only way.
I think that everybody already knows about it, but Mr Snowden was given a Russian Citizenship (but i think it is only temporary).

I apologize for my grammar, but my english writing skills are very rusty.