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Concentration Camp In Texas?
For many years now the residential centers that hold illegal immigrants have been known by conspiracy theories as concentration camps. In the future could this idea of a small conspiracy theory about concentration camps actually be the agenda of someone? Will the history repeat itself? Many questions still arise from these private corporations that station illegal immigrants. What are your thoughts about this subject? Have any stories or inside experience of what could be a secret plot for our future? Please share. I would love to read, replay, and discuss. Thank you!

Mmmm this doesn't appear to be anything definite. I'm not exactly sure what it is since the video doesn't give any background other than "It looks like a concentration camp and buses which could contain people go into it" (which is something you can say of many public schools these days but I digress). They could be on to something here, but I'd rather not simply believe video's like these since too many times in the past have peoples reputations been destroyed by some video that looked like something else but in reality was something completely different and completely out of context(ala the ACORN scandal). But if this is private corporations housing illegal immigrants for their labor that would actually seem plausible and something you can actually prove (unlike most conspiracy theories.....).

At 6/17/13 06:48 PM, Warforger wrote: Mmmm this doesn't appear to be anything definite. I'm not exactly sure what it is since the video doesn't give any background other than "It looks like a concentration camp and buses which could contain people go into it" (which is something you can say of many public schools these days but I digress). They could be on to something here, but I'd rather not simply believe video's like these since too many times in the past have peoples reputations been destroyed by some video that looked like something else but in reality was something completely different and completely out of context(ala the ACORN scandal). But if this is private corporations housing illegal immigrants for their labor that would actually seem plausible and something you can actually prove (unlike most conspiracy theories.....).

Seems very reasonable that this building in the video itself, back when this theory was hot has a huge private grip on the physical front entrance. That resembles a light prison. Nothing big like a state prison. Just to contain people for a short time I assume. When I look at it. The video itself is old and no facts are feed to me. Yes this video has it's fake staled side to it which gives it that concreted "nothing good" feeling if you where expecting it to be something. The thought that there could or maybe are places like a residential center that can be used to house people in is a very right winged sight while thinking this can hold me for containment. I take this as a secretive place. Many people and me believe all businesses should not have a secret front cover of what or who they are or serve. If they house prisoners that are from other countries then why can't they release their names? I think that everyone should have the right to know. Never know where all these missing children go

Yet another example of the power that shape shifting space lizards have over our lives. It is a sad, sad world full of ignorant people.

this is kinda dumb.

"oh hey look there is a building with security guards cameras and a fence"

"someone told me to leave the property that is indeed private property so its a conspiracy and its a concentration camp"

Please take your tin foil hats off and wait for shit to actually happen.

You need these things when it comes to seperating grounds for zones of different countries. They don't want illegal immigrants making it into america unless they go through the proper process. All of this is necessary with the current system.

They are basically in "nationality limbo". I wouldn't call this a concentration camp. But i am also 100% un-educated about the proper definition of a concentration camp. But i associate it to hitler's mass killings with the jews.

Anyway, history isn't gonna repeat what hilter did. Too many people are passionately against it across the world and too many people know about it. If it did start to happen, somebody would notice it and expose it since we have youtube now. Then the UN and the whole world would stop it.

Is it possible for a few people to die, yea it is. But it won't be as severe as it was with hitler.

At 6/17/13 06:31 PM, CWBHOODJONES wrote: Concentration Camp In Texas?
For many years now the residential centers that hold illegal immigrants have been known by conspiracy theories as concentration camps. In the future could this idea of a small conspiracy theory about concentration camps actually be the agenda of someone? Will the history repeat itself? Many questions still arise from these private corporations that station illegal immigrants. What are your thoughts about this subject? Have any stories or inside experience of what could be a secret plot for our future? Please share. I would love to read, replay, and discuss. Thank you!

There are definitely for profit prisons, so there's no reason to think there wouldn't be concentration camps if people could profit from it, which they can.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Is_nOBts-OM

Yea i mean, i can see that. But still with this video its dumb to jump to conclusions.

If i was a CEO and i saw someone taking a video of my discrete building that i had highly secured for whateve rreason. I would have them kicked off the location immediately.

if its a prison even more reason. That gives people time to come up with strategies to break out my prisoners who are setenced for years of crime.

We have internet now. He leaked this video, there could of very well been any friend of these "prisoners" trying to scope out the security looking for flaws and devise schemes to break everyone out.

At 6/22/13 01:42 PM, PMMurphy wrote: this is kinda dumb.

Is it really? Guantanamo bay was much worse than this. Whether or not this is actually a concentration camp or not (basically just a camp which holds a concentration of people I guess.... we had the same thing with the Japanese but it wasn't genocide) is one thing, but whether or not the government using private prisons to control immigration is another. Right off the bat, it's a private prison but is run by public agencies, this must mean they're trying to get around some regulation or use laws to protect what's inside.

Anyway, history isn't gonna repeat what hilter did. Too many people are passionately against it across the world and too many people know about it. If it did start to happen, somebody would notice it and expose it since we have youtube now. Then the UN and the whole world would stop it.

Well it's already happened. And no, while Hitler/the Nazi's have a bad reputation in the America's, Europe and Russia, he does not have the same reputation everywhere. Yes there are people everywhere who view him the same way as we do, but there are places like Japan where he is even praised and such praise is not considered out of the ordinary. Hell when he was around Ghandhi praised him! In Japan he is associated with the peak of the Japanese Empire, thus hardcore Japanese nationalists occasionally praise him. Japan itself has a bad sense of history when college students are surprised to find out that Japan fought America in WWII. That's just Japan, in China anti-semitic books have become best sellers. In the Middle East Germany is actually viewed highly because of HItler and the rampant anti-semitism throughout the Middle East. Or at least like with Gandhi, Hitler represented the one true threat to the Colonial Empires, so that's one way to view it.

But the point is, not every culture has the same view on Nazism.

At 6/22/13 06:09 PM, Warforger wrote: Well it's already happened. And no, while Hitler/the Nazi's have a bad reputation in the America's, Europe and Russia, he does not have the same reputation everywhere. Yes there are people everywhere who view him the same way as we do, but there are places like Japan where he is even praised and such praise is not considered out of the ordinary. Hell when he was around Ghandhi praised him! In Japan he is associated with the peak of the Japanese Empire, thus hardcore Japanese nationalists occasionally praise him. Japan itself has a bad sense of history when college students are surprised to find out that Japan fought America in WWII. That's just Japan, in China anti-semitic books have become best sellers. In the Middle East Germany is actually viewed highly because of HItler and the rampant anti-semitism throughout the Middle East. Or at least like with Gandhi, Hitler represented the one true threat to the Colonial Empires, so that's one way to view it.

But the point is, not every culture has the same view on Nazism.

LOL you obviously have never been to japan. Nor have you talked to anyone from germany who is within the current generation. I have friends who are born and raised from germany, if you associate them with nazi's you piss them the fuck off and they tell you that they are not from that generation of thought and don't want to associate themselves with the way of their ancestors.

Not only that but japan is now one of the most spiritual open-minded cultures out there. Japan is really really friendly and accepting. I was born and raised in japan for 10 years. So please don't preach to me about these other cultures. Maybe the really old population of japan and germany are like that. But the future isn't.

At 6/22/13 06:33 PM, PMMurphy wrote:

Okay, I have to stop you on some things, because you're way off base on some things, it's hard not to notice.

LOL you obviously have never been to japan. Nor have you talked to anyone from germany who is within the current generation. I have friends who are born and raised from germany, if you associate them with nazi's....

I don't think that what Warforger meant that. He simply stated that in some circles in Japan and other places, Hitler and the Nazis were revered for many different reasons, whether it was strong antisemitism in the Middle East countries, {go figure} or the fact that they were allies in WW2 for Japan, and that generation admired him, or at the very least, thought they were on his good side. {He did make them honorary Aryans, after all, whether it was for alliance purposes or much more is up for debate} Not to mention that a lot of things of the modern Japanese government came from the German system of government, just without the fascism and Nazi aspects.

Not only that but japan is now one of the most spiritual open-minded cultures out there. Japan is really really friendly and accepting.

Shinto and Buddhism are pretty open for different faiths, but most people in Japan generally don't give a shit about religion in the first place, plus most modern first world countries are spiritually open as well, so that's nothing really new. As for acceptance in Japan, it generally varies from place to place and person to person. If I'm not mistaken, most of the people in the big cities {particularly the young and business crowds} are open to foreigners, or at least don't mind their presence that much, whereas in the countryside, not so much.

I've heard a lot of stories of harassment and resentment towards foreigners in Japan, though they might be either exaggerated to an extent, or the tourists simply treated Japan as one huge playground, which is why they end up with negative reaction in Japan.

I was born and raised in japan for 10 years. So please don't preach to me about these other cultures.

Just because you were born and raised somewhere doesn't always mean you know everything about their culture. True, you may know more than most others here, {particularly the weeaboo crowd} but that doesn't mean you have the full truth.

Maybe the really old population of japan and germany are like that. But the future isn't.

I think that's what Warforger meant by what he posted all along. It would be of note that there is little in the way of PR speak in Japan compared to the western world, so a lot of things {including Nazi stuff} are not as taboo as it is with many other places, combined with the fact that they really don't care what other countries think, I guess you can say that they quietly revel in their "weirdness".

Yea the "protests" in japan are highly exagerated. They run outside and throw flags at you yelling, then they leave.

With the latest development of the internet and the fact that our current age is making friends with people around the world and its common to talk to other countries. People are becoming more open-minded. Its a common change throughout the whole world, not just select places.

Don't believe the hype of everything, people exagerate problems in all locations around the whole world.

The only japanese that hate foreigners are the ones who don't interact with them often enough. Just like how racism use to be really popular until blacks and whites started mingling.

I mean, yea, Its ok to not know this stuff. But after the internet and global interaction people are starting to get along much better. I have friends of many nationalities. This is a very norm thing now.

Also. (no offence to anyone of age).

I am not concerned about the elders and what they believe.

Sooner or later they will all be dead. Who cares.

What im concerned with is what we believe now, our current generation.

At 6/22/13 06:33 PM, PMMurphy wrote: LOL you obviously have never been to japan. Nor have you talked to anyone from germany who is within the current generation.

Actually that issue was brought to my attention by people who had lived in Japan. And when you have Nazi SS uniforms being sold in toy stores in Japan I think it is fair they don't have the same view.

I have friends who are born and raised from germany, if you associate them with nazi's you piss them the fuck off and they tell you that they are not from that generation of thought and don't want to associate themselves with the way of their ancestors.

Yes, I am very aware of that. I specifically left out Germany because I said "outside of the America's, Europe and Russia". Germany has it the worst because they are solely blamed for something that was actually a combined effort by most of Europe (I think over 50% of the SS wasn't German) and on top of that have their entire ethnicity with thousands of years of history being associated with one political movement.

Not only that but japan is now one of the most spiritual open-minded cultures out there. Japan is really really friendly and accepting. I was born and raised in japan for 10 years. So please don't preach to me about these other cultures. Maybe the really old population of japan and germany are like that. But the future isn't.

That doesn't mean they have the same view on everything. They may think Hitler was bad, but it's not to the same degree as in America or Germany.

But if you want a comparison take Genghis Khan. In America depending on who you ask he is a badass conqueror or a ruthless barbarian, but no one would be offended if you dressed up as Genghis Khan for Halloween or made a move glorifying his conquests. On the other hand if you go to Iran and do the same thing you might as well be going to Israel dressed as HItler. It's all in the context of the culture.

Ok so they sell nazi uniforms in stores.
Oh shit internet supports nazism too now.

That doesn't mean anything or credit anything. Maybe people like history in japan and want to collect things. Please dont assume things assuming only makes you look like an idiot.

I mean think logically. You spend your whole life around people jews, islamics, christians. They are your friends, your close friends. They help you when you fall down, when your depressed. You grow personal attachments to them. Then when your old enough to understand concepts you hear that in the past people use to mass genocide people. These same identical people you know and love growing up with.

The bonds with the world and the emotional connections our youth will gather with people of the differently cultures is too strong now to recreate mass genocide. There is no need to view the world in such a manner as you grow up around these people on a regular basis. There are things known as evolution, society evolves and heads towards better solutions. its a known fact that you are better in numbers then not. Also people have the ability to make their own judgements and don't have to follow judgements of others.

At 6/23/13 01:18 AM, PMMurphy wrote: Ok so they sell nazi uniforms in stores.
Oh shit internet supports nazism too now.

That doesn't mean anything or credit anything. Maybe people like history in japan and want to collect things. Please dont assume things assuming only makes you look like an idiot.

Except this wasn't the internet, this was a toy store which just specialized in selling toys, it wasn't a specialized store selling WWII memorabilia. And what I was saying still stands, there are right wing nationalists in Japan who view Hitler in a positive light.

I mean think logically. You spend your whole life around people jews, islamics, christians. They are your friends, your close friends. They help you when you fall down, when your depressed. You grow personal attachments to them. Then when your old enough to understand concepts you hear that in the past people use to mass genocide people. These same identical people you know and love growing up with.

Hitler at one point admired Jewish culture and went to Jewish charities when he was homeless. That doesn't mean shit.

The bonds with the world and the emotional connections our youth will gather with people of the differently cultures is too strong now to recreate mass genocide. There is no need to view the world in such a manner as you grow up around these people on a regular basis.

...........That's a nice thought but it's incredibly niave. We've already had several mass genocides since Hitler, the genocide by Pol Pot in Cambodia, genocide in Bosnia and Kosovo, genocide in Rwanda/Burundi etc. etc. I don't see how the youth are different now.....

There are things known as evolution, society evolves and heads towards better solutions. its a known fact that you are better in numbers then not.

Oh does it now? Is that why the Dark Ages were so much better than the age of the Roman Empire?

Also people have the ability to make their own judgements and don't have to follow judgements of others.

Yah, like how they should be Nazi's.

Lol its not naive at all. Also, its still dumb to assume.

You don't assume things, you learn it for yourself. You go to that store to that clerk and ask him why hes selling those products. Then you have a conversation about those products and see their views on nazis and why they sell them. If they indeed have positive views, then its a legit claim. If you don't do these things, its not a legit claim it means nothing it proves nothing your statement is void.

Anyway, Thoughts like that are only naive and dumb people think they are. If you sell into it and preach it, it will become a reality. Thats the issue with people, its not a matter of if it will happen, its when.

The only major crisis we will have in preventing this from occuring with the human race is the exsistance of terrorism and the fact there are strong beliefs in people to divide us and keep us how we are. So the only real imidiate danger we come across is the fact we can have a nuclear war and blow us off the face of the planet.

If we get past that, its smooth sailing.

At 6/23/13 11:35 AM, PMMurphy wrote: Lol its not naive at all.

It's like the most naive thing I have ever heard.

Also, its still dumb to assume.

What? You mean like how you just assumed that the young generation is going to fix the mistakes of the old?

You don't assume things, you learn it for yourself. You go to that store to that clerk and ask him why hes selling those products. Then you have a conversation about those products and see their views on nazis and why they sell them. If they indeed have positive views, then its a legit claim. If you don't do these things, its not a legit claim it means nothing it proves nothing your statement is void.

Ok so why else would they sell Nazi uniforms in a toy store?

Anyway, Thoughts like that are only naive and dumb people think they are. If you sell into it and preach it, it will become a reality. Thats the issue with people, its not a matter of if it will happen, its when.

Yah if everyone thought like you then we'd be achieving world peace in no time.

The only major crisis we will have in preventing this from occuring with the human race is the exsistance of terrorism and the fact there are strong beliefs in people to divide us and keep us how we are. So the only real imidiate danger we come across is the fact we can have a nuclear war and blow us off the face of the planet.

If we get past that, its smooth sailing.

Again, this is incredibly naive and devoid of knowledge of the real world. The world is way too far away from that.......

not really. Science is discovering over the years the human mind is becoming more peaceful generation after generation.

I mean. if your gonna walk in circles with this arguement i'm not gonna continue it.

At 6/23/13 07:08 PM, PMMurphy wrote: not really. Science is discovering over the years the human mind is becoming more peaceful generation after generation.

What? It must depend on who they were looking at because if you look at the Middle East that is most certainty not the case. I mean seriously, Suicide Bombing is a modern invention not something that had strong roots in Islam. I'm calling bullshit.

I mean. if your gonna walk in circles with this arguement i'm not gonna continue it.

Let's start citing sources then.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/dec/13/japan-hi tler-outfit-past

Lets see. You give a source of some random guy who writes an internet article.

My source is a collection of phd graduates who study science on a daily basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnmmnpj_pX8

OH and not only is it a random internet article.

But its a holloween costume.

At 6/23/13 08:39 PM, PMMurphy wrote: Lets see. You give a source of some random guy who writes an internet article.

A news website sure and it doesn't negate the fact.

My source is a collection of phd graduates who study science on a daily basis.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnmmnpj_pX8

Actually your source isn't because nowhere in the video did he address anything you've said in this thread. Furthermore this isn't his field of expertise, he's a theoretical physicist not a Sociologist. His entire argument is based off of science fiction and idealism common of physicists. He may be at best able to guess what our future technology will be like, but to say that we're approaching a new civilization is arrogant and impossible to predict. He quotes people like Carl Sagan, i.e. science fiction writers, not people who actually study society professionally. You can tell because we've had many of these predictions in the past. The vast majority tend to be wrong and those which are accurate tend to come from much more recent sources like say 20-40 years prior. If you look at the science fiction of 100 years ago the predictions of society and technology in the year 2000 are waaay off and on top of that are too idealistic and most importantly NAIVE. That is why they ended up so wrong and as of today sound hilarious.

Lol he uses science fiction to explain his theories.

You wouldn't understand the concepts if he talked without science fiction.

The reason he talks over the whole topic for everyone is because hes a renown scientist recognized for his work around the world. Walk his other videos that was just one. He communicates with all the top scientists from all the top fields and he presents their work to help educate the masses. Michio kaku is the modern day einstein who will most likely earn a nobel prize.

At 6/24/13 12:43 AM, PMMurphy wrote: Lol he uses science fiction to explain his theories.

You wouldn't understand the concepts if he talked without science fiction.

Is it really? Because it appears he's just a guy who like science fiction and uses it as Sociology over actual social science.

The reason he talks over the whole topic for everyone is because hes a renown scientist recognized for his work around the world. Walk his other videos that was just one. He communicates with all the top scientists from all the top fields and

he presents their work to help educate the masses.

Then maybe you should link me to the video where he talks about your claim. Now sure, his work may be famous for THEORETICAL PHYSICS but this does not make an authority on sociology.

Michio kaku is the modern day einstein who will most likely earn a nobel prize.

That makes him less credible because Einstein's political views were very delusional. He was a hardened Socialist who had testified for a friend who had assassinated a politician and defended the Soviet Union to the bitter end. He claim that the mass murder was justified when cornered about it. This was all the more ironic when the Soviet Union denounced his theories as Capitalist garbage. If you were to ask him he would probably have said the Soviet Union would've probably become supreme by now and created the perfect Utopia.

But seriously we are way off track at this point. Back to Concentration Camps.

believe what you want bro.

The notion of being revered as the "modern day einstein" doesn't mean you ARE einstein and hold all his beliefs and delusional thought patterns. It just means your making huge advancements in the world of physics.

You should look into some things and open your mind a bit of whats going on.

Also sociology is so limited on what they can prove its not an exact science. Gotta know physics before we can understand sociology or psychology or anything of that matter.

At 6/24/13 02:18 AM, PMMurphy wrote: believe what you want bro.

So you're going to ignore my points again?

The notion of being revered as the "modern day einstein" doesn't mean you ARE einstein and hold all his beliefs and delusional thought patterns. It just means your making huge advancements in the world of physics.

My point was that being revered as a modern day Einstein made him an authority in physics; not sociology. I used it as an example as to why Physicists aren't good Sociologists.

You should look into some things and open your mind a bit of whats going on.

One of the ways you are open minded is to be critical of something. The guy you referenced just uses personal anecdotes and science fiction instead of evidence to explain his theory. That is a major flaw in just that segment right off the bat. One way of being close minded is to ignore criticisms someone raises about your point of view

Also sociology is so limited on what they can prove its not an exact science. Gotta know physics before we can understand sociology or psychology or anything of that matter.

No you don't. I'm sure whatever Sociology is, it's not something this guy has a mastery of.

Have you ever taken a physics class?

Have you ever read even an intro to psychology book?

Do you know what sociology is?

I mean... Your points aren't disproving mine and your not making any headway.

I don't need verification that your points don't disprove mine because i know they don't.

Physics/biology/chemistry make up every single component of the entire world.

At 6/24/13 02:29 AM, PMMurphy wrote: Have you ever taken a physics class?

Yes. You'd be surprised to find how little relevance to sociology it has.

Have you ever read even an intro to psychology book?

Yes......

Do you know what sociology is?

The study of society. I think the more important question is have you ever read a history book? Because when you talk about "civilization" that is relevant, physics is far less relevant.

I mean... Your points aren't disproving mine and your not making any headway.

I don't need verification that your points don't disprove mine because i know they don't.

Which basically means that your position is so weak and unable to handle criticism that you refuse to address my points because you cannot refute them.

Physics/biology/chemistry make up every single component of the entire world.

That doesn't matter. What matters is if you can predict where a civilization will be in 100 years. The people who do that tend to be science fiction writers and in the past have turned out completely wrong.

And this goes back to the overarching point, people will and still have committed genocide and sent people to concentration camps. Hell that's still going on to this day. There are Nazi's everywhere even in Malaysia and Germany, hell the KKK is in Canada, Europe,South Africa and Latin America. Intolerance is everywhere and people will still commit genocide. This "new generation" of the youth aren't changing that. If anything with the invention of the internet it has allowed racism to spring up internationally very quietly.

Ok ill make the connection for you.

Whats a neural network how does it work and what does it do. On top of that why is it important to discovering patterns in sociology and psychology. Why is it the VERY FIRST TOPIC YOU FUCKING COVER IN PSYCHOLOGY 101.