What do you think of Gerald Celente

[randomperson23]

He's that guy who does trends in the news, and the trends journal. I'm just curious as to what your opinions of him are.
http://www.trendsresearch.com/index.php
That's his website.

[Feoric]

He's a snake oil salesman.

He's been saying the economy will collapse any day now for how long now? Economic catastrophe is always 6-12 months away. He's fodder for the conspiracy theorists, Alex Jones fans and doomsday preppers. For everyone else he's full of shit.

[Memorize]

At 6/9/13 11:02 PM, Feoric wrote: He's a snake oil salesman.

He's been saying the economy will collapse any day now for how long now? Economic catastrophe is always 6-12 months away. He's fodder for the conspiracy theorists, Alex Jones fans and doomsday preppers. For everyone else he's full of shit.

heh, over-react much, dipshit?

[randomperson23]

At 6/9/13 11:02 PM, Feoric wrote: He's a snake oil salesman.

He's been saying the economy will collapse any day now for how long now? Economic catastrophe is always 6-12 months away. He's fodder for the conspiracy theorists, Alex Jones fans and doomsday preppers. For everyone else he's full of shit.

1) He hasn't actually been saying the economy will collapse any day.
2) Look at the facts that the people that you have dubbed conspiracy theorists are saying, and intellectually debate them rather that slap labels on people.

[Feoric]

At 6/10/13 07:16 PM, randomperson23 wrote: 1) He hasn't actually been saying the economy will collapse any day.

....what?

2) Look at the facts that the people that you have dubbed conspiracy theorists are saying, and intellectually debate them rather that slap labels on people.

Here are the facts, then.

He's an entertainer, nothing more nothing less.

[randomperson23]

At 6/11/13 12:32 AM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/10/13 07:16 PM, randomperson23 wrote: 1) He hasn't actually been saying the economy will collapse any day.

....what?

2) Look at the facts that the people that you have dubbed conspiracy theorists are saying, and intellectually debate them rather that slap labels on people.

Here are the facts, then.

He's an entertainer, nothing more nothing less.

1) There is a difference between any day and imminent, that being any day literally means the event could happen any day.
Imminent means at some point in time in the future, not just any day, because any day could be tomorrow, but imminent could be after a period of time (not just tomorrow).
2) His predictions were flawed, but he is much more right then wrong, also actually debate rather than post some internet page link. This is between the two of us, and not anyone else, and by anyone else I mean those internet people that you are dragging in by just posting links without you supporting any of it.

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 12:25 AM, randomperson23 wrote: 1) There is a difference between any day and imminent,

Alright, let's play the semantics game, then. It happens a lot around here. "Imminent" means to the effect of "looming; about to occur, etc." By definition, it's used in the context of something happening relatively soon. Play a fun game with me: type "gerald celente economy will collapse 2013" into Google. Take a look at the front page results. Do the search again, except change the year to 2012. And again, for 2011. Keep on going, see how far back it goes. You might be surprised!

Hell, just take the word imminent out of the equation. Just look at the results and the things he says. Here's a few:

"In 2009 weâEUTMre going to see the worst economic collapse ever, the âEU~Greatest DepressionâEUTM, says Gerald Celente, U.S. trend forecaster."

Gee, must have missed that somehow.

Celente Predicts Revolution, Food Riots, Tax Rebellions By 2012

Weird, maybe I spent the entirety of 2012 in a coma and I'm just waking up.

Oooh, this is good:

"He also predicts that Israel may attack Iran to take out their nuclear facilities, and that the U.S will try exerting more sanctions against Iran.

Gerald Celente says this could be the beginning of World War III.
...
Gerald also talks about what he calls 'The Crash of 2010' where the Stimulus money will run out and interest rates cannot be lowered any more."

Aw, man, I must not have been invited to that sweet WWIII party.

2) His predictions were flawed, but he is much more right then wrong, also actually debate rather than post some internet page link. This is between the two of us, and not anyone else, and by anyone else I mean those internet people that you are dragging in by just posting links without you supporting any of it.

Haha, right. So about this:

he is much more right then wrong

Can I trouble you for some brave bold predictions than can only be chalked up to supernatural predicting ability, instead of just attributing it to him being as broad and vague as humanly possible? I can do that:

I predict within the next 4 years we're going to see a massive market correction, possibly triggering a worldwide depression.

Not that hard.

[randomperson23]

At 6/12/13 02:00 AM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/12/13 12:25 AM, randomperson23 wrote: 1) There is a difference between any day and imminent,

Alright, let's play the semantics game, then. It happens a lot around here. "Imminent" means to the effect of "looming; about to occur, etc." By definition, it's used in the context of something happening relatively soon. About doesn't specify to any specific time periods, so that could be anything (Aww, seems you failed to consider that.) Play a fun game with me: type "gerald celente economy will collapse 2013" into Google. Take a look at the front page results. Do the search again, except change the year to 2012. And again, for 2011. Keep on going, see how far back it goes. You might be surprised!

I said he's not a perfect forecaster, also how is he supposed to know about all of the little games going down?(Seems you also failed to that.)

Hell, just take the word imminent out of the equation. Just look at the results and the things he says. Here's a few:

"In 2009 weâEUTMre going to see the worst economic collapse ever, the âEU~Greatest DepressionâEUTM, says Gerald Celente, U.S. trend forecaster."

2) His predictions were flawed, but he is much more right then wrong, also actually debate rather than post some internet page link. This is between the two of us, and not anyone else, and by anyone else I mean those internet people that you are dragging in by just posting links without you supporting any of it.

Haha, right. So about this:

he is much more right then wrong

I predict within the next 4 years we're going to see a massive market correction, possibly triggering a worldwide depression.

Ohh, how about this, massive market correction and depresion are hypocritical, and Celente doesn't predict things that are hypocritical, also wtf kind of an idiot(you) makes predictions that hypocritical.

[randomperson23]

At 6/12/13 02:00 AM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/12/13 12:25 AM, randomperson23 wrote: 1) There is a difference between any day and imminent,

Alright, let's play the semantics game, then. It happens a lot around here. "Imminent" means to the effect of "looming; about to occur, etc." By definition, it's used in the context of something happening relatively soon. Play a fun game with me: type "gerald celente economy will collapse 2013" into Google. Take a look at the front page results. Do the search again, except change the year to 2012. And again, for 2011. Keep on going, see how far back it goes. You might be surprised!

About does not specify to any specific time period, so your thesis is now invalid (Ohh, seems such a smart guy as you missed that.).

[randomperson23]

1) There is a difference between any day and imminent,

Alright, let's play the semantics game, then. It happens a lot around here. "Imminent" means to the effect of "looming; about to occur, etc." By definition, it's used in the context of something happening relatively soon.

About does not specify to any specific time period, so your thesis is now invalid (Ohh, seems such a smart guy as you missed that.).

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 02:28 AM, randomperson23 wrote: I said he's not a perfect forecaster, also how is he supposed to know about all of the little games going down?(Seems you also failed to that.)

These aren't "little games." WWIII isn't a little game, lol. Neither are tax riots and food shortages, but oh well. I never claimed to be able to predict that so I don't know how I can fail at that.

Ohh, how about this, massive market correction and depresion are hypocritical, and Celente doesn't predict things that are hypocritical, also wtf kind of an idiot(you) makes predictions that hypocritical.

You don't know what the word hypocritical means, lol.

Anyway, still looking for some examples.

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 02:30 AM, randomperson23 wrote: About does not specify to any specific time period, so your thesis is now invalid (Ohh, seems such a smart guy as you missed that.).

Right, but 'imminent' does. So what the hell is your point?

[randomperson23]

At 6/12/13 02:33 AM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/12/13 02:28 AM, randomperson23 wrote:

These aren't "little games." WWIII isn't a little game, lol. Neither are tax riots and food shortages, but oh well. I never claimed to be able to predict that so I don't know how I can fail at that.

This isn't even about your predictions, so stay on topic if your so smart.

Ohh, how about this, massive market correction and depresion are hypocritical, and Celente doesn't predict things that are hypocritical, also wtf kind of an idiot(you) makes predictions that hypocritical.

You don't know what the word hypocritical means, lol.

Hypocritical is being self contradictory, just like you predicted economic recover and demise it the same prediction.

Anyway, still looking for some examples.

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 02:39 AM, randomperson23 wrote: This isn't even about your predictions, so stay on topic if your so smart.

Are you even reading the same thread as I am?

Hypocritical is being self contradictory, just like you predicted economic recover and demise it the same prediction.

Well then it's obvious you didn't understand what I said. Market correction doesn't necessarily mean "recovery," it could also mean "crash." Notice how the market keeps on rising and closing at all time highs in spite of high un/underemployment, stagnant wages, union busts, the ongoing economic crisis in numerous major European countries, crippling student debt, etc? Well I think it's about time the market reflects reality.

But that'll happen within the next 4 years, for sure, so you should totally buy gold and silver (from my online retail seller, of course). Oh, and make sure to subscribe to my newsletter so I can spam your AOL account with offers on totally insane deals, like ammunition for your guns and buckets full of seeds so you can grow your own farm when Civil War 2 breaks out (make sure you buy from my buddy's online retailer, which I have a massive stake in). Just keep listening to me cus I'm always right. Oh, I was wrong? Look over there! Uhhh well it looks like within the next 6 months we're gonna witness a massive scandal in the White House. I know, I have a source in there. Well no I can't actually show you any documents but trust me, I'm a forecaster. People wouldn't listen to me if I was full of shit and wrong about everything, right?

Anyway, still looking for some examples.

I like how you quoted this part but didn't give a response. I'm still waiting for one. Show me the evidence that he was mostly right.

[BrianEtrius]

At 6/12/13 02:56 AM, Feoric wrote: I like how you quoted this part but didn't give a response. I'm still waiting for one. Show me the evidence that he was mostly right.

I'd like to add to the specificity of the the example, such evidence that he was right in a non vague way, because anybody can time you markets are going to go up and then go down because that's how markets work. Now why they do that and on what frequency they do that is are very good questions; if you can answer both with even a close accuracy you should be the richest man in the world.

Predicting for certain economic trends in short runs are a lot harder than people think.

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 03:05 AM, BrianEtrius wrote: Predicting for certain economic trends in short runs are a lot harder than people think.

Predicting is easy. Being right is another story.

Celente is hardly if ever right about anything.

[randomperson23]

At 6/12/13 02:34 AM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/12/13 02:30 AM, randomperson23 wrote: About does not specify to any specific time period, so your thesis is now invalid (Ohh, seems such a smart guy as you missed that.).

Right, but 'imminent' does. So what the hell is your point?

The definition of imminent contains about, so what the hell is your point?

[randomperson23]

At 6/12/13 02:56 AM, Feoric wrote:

At 6/12/13 02:39 AM, randomperson23 wrote: This isn't even about your predictions, so stay on topic if your so smart.

Are you even reading the same thread as I am?

Hypocritical is being self contradictory, just like you predicted economic recover and demise it the same prediction.

Well then it's obvious you didn't understand what I said.I understood enough to tell you what made you hypocritical.

Anyway, still looking for some examples.

http://www.trendsresearch.com/forecast.php

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 03:32 PM, randomperson23 wrote: http://www.trendsresearch.com/forecast.php

For a guy who has been saying the same vague things since 1980 that's not an impressive resume. Even Peter Schiff has had more predictions come true than this guy, and that's saying something. For a dude who is continuously screaming bear market that's all he has?

Have you even clicked those links provided? He has to be taking a gamble on the hopes that nobody skims through it. Check out his "1987 stock market crash prediction." Casually ignore his prediction that Reagan will retire from failing health. Also ignore the fact that the reason why this crash will happen is due to the public's loss of faith in Reagan due to scandals like Iran/Contra. Oh and wow, check out the last paragraph! There he is, suggesting you buy portfolio insurance and suggest you have 20% of your portfolio in precious metals. Alrighty then.

I'm seeing a suspicious lack of some key points about Black Friday, namely program trading. Nor the fact that it was the largest percent drop ever on the DJI. Or that it would start in Hong Kong. Etc etc. He predicted nothing.

[randomperson23]

At 6/12/13 04:26 PM, Feoric wrote: He predicted nothing.

wow You really think that anyone would believe that?
Prediction ex:
Technotribialism
Clean foods trend
etc.

[Feoric]

At 6/12/13 10:05 PM, randomperson23 wrote:

At 6/12/13 04:26 PM, Feoric wrote: He predicted nothing.

wow You really think that anyone would believe that?
Prediction ex:
Technotribialism
Clean foods trend
etc.

Wow you're right. Thanks Gerald Celente.