I Thought Ng Was A Place For...

[Poniiboi]

original thought. However, most of the people here don't question anything when it relates to government. It's sad to see how completely beholden you people are to the filtered opinions of the media. You deserve to be led around like sheep, pay all of your earnings to the government in taxes and then die shitting yourself alone with a bag of McDonalds as your fucking fitting last meal.

I guess I have to ask a question. Why do you people never question what government tells you and why do you get your moral authority from the words of others?

I should really just join government and shit my decrees down on your heads. Why do anything else if the people only want to be fucking lied to? Give em what they want.

[Earfetish]

You know nothing about any of us and just made that post so you can feel smarter about yourself and superior over the rest of us.

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 09:20 AM, SuperHitler420 wrote: Or to troll; this is perfect troll bait.

Not like the name SuperHitler or anything.
No, I just post what I feel. I'm not on the Net enough to "troll."

[morefngdbs]

At 6/5/13 09:09 AM, Earfetish wrote: You know nothing about any of us and just made that post so you can feel smarter about yourself and superior over the rest of us.

I know a sheeple when I sees one ...

Its easier to go with the flow, it much easier to go along & hope you aren't to badly affected by the changes you really should be outraged about.

Your government is a bought & paid puppet show.

Your Freedom of the press couldn't be taken away ...so what do those who want to take controldo ? ( & they have control for the most part now) They circumvented it by buying up most of the media & controlling what is seen & heard. then putting a huge push using disinformation & mindless garbage to distract public opinion & of course paint anyone who has a different opinion than the mainstream media's ... as being obviously a bunch of kooks.

You can deny all you want but its deteriorated to the point , that you can no longer say your freedoms have been taken away & are being infringed upon more & more every day.
So they have been pushing the "its for your own good & safety " & the sheeple just bleeet & keep their heads down in the grass, the few that raise their heads or attempt to bring attention to the rest are obviously deranged or terrorist supporters.

IT was true before it was said, it was true when it was said & its even more true today than ever;

Naturally the common people do not want war. Neither in Russia ,or England,
now for that matter Germany. That is understood. BUT after all, IT IS THE LEADERS
of the country that decide policy & it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,
whether it is a Democracy, or a Facist Dictatorship, or a Parliaament , or a Communist
Dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That Is Easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED
( does imminent terrorist threat ring any bells guys)
and you DENOUNCE the Peacemakers (AKA = nut jobs going against the mainstream news agencies controlled by the government) for their total lack of Patriotism & their views actually expose the country to danger.
IT WORKS IN ANY COUNTRY.

And as Herman Goering said it ...Georgie Dubya , played it & the majority of American's drank it up & all the problems its caused are seen by many to be a necessary thing ...when nothing could be further from the truth ! ! !

So go have another glass of Government Koolade dude, you surely must be feeling a bit dry , & feel even better knowing you are no different than millions of others from the past & those today who followed blindly along with their Leaders, no questions & that way thankfully you never have to hear the truth !

OH LOOK the Presidents getting rained on ! Oh my ! That's the real important issue for us to concentrate on today !

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/americas/scandalous-erosion-
us-civil-liberties

[Earfetish]

At 6/5/13 09:40 AM, morefngdbs wrote:

At 6/5/13 09:09 AM, Earfetish wrote: You know nothing about any of us and just made that post so you can feel smarter about yourself and superior over the rest of us.

I know a sheeple when I sees one ...

I think politicians are like the mafia, I have used the phrase 'the political cartel' many times.

[morefngdbs]

At 6/5/13 09:09 AM, Earfetish wrote: You know nothing about any of us and just made that post so you can feel smarter about yourself and superior over the rest of us.

I know a sheeple when I sees one ...

Its easier to go with the flow, it much easier to go along & hope you aren't to badly affected by the changes you really should be outraged about.

Your government is a bought & paid puppet show.

Your Freedom of the press couldn't be taken away ...so what do those who want to take controldo ? ( & they have control for the most part now) They circumvented it by buying up most of the media & controlling what is seen & heard. then putting a huge push using disinformation & mindless garbage to distract public opinion & of course paint anyone who has a different opinion than the mainstream media's ... as being obviously a bunch of kooks.

You can deny all you want but its deteriorated to the point , that you can no longer say your freedoms have been taken away & are being infringed upon more & more every day.
So they have been pushing the "its for your own good & safety " & the sheeple just bleeet & keep their heads down in the grass, the few that raise their heads or attempt to bring attention to the rest are obviously deranged or terrorist supporters.

IT was true before it was said, it was true when it was said & its even more true today than ever;

Naturally the common people do not want war. Neither in Russia ,or England,
now for that matter Germany. That is understood. BUT after all, IT IS THE LEADERS
of the country that decide policy & it is always a simple matter to drag the people along,
whether it is a Democracy, or a Facist Dictatorship, or a Parliaament , or a Communist
Dictatorship. Voice or no voice the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders.
That Is Easy. All you have to do is TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED
( does imminent terrorist threat ring any bells guys)
and you DENOUNCE the Peacemakers (AKA = nut jobs going against the mainstream news agencies controlled by the government) for their total lack of Patriotism & their views actually expose the country to danger.
IT WORKS IN ANY COUNTRY.

And as Herman Goering said it ...Georgie Dubya , played it & the majority of American's drank it up & all the problems its caused are seen by many to be a necessary thing ...when nothing could be further from the truth ! ! !

So go have another glass of Government Koolade dude, you surely must be feeling a bit dry , & feel even better knowing you are no different than millions of others from the past & those today who followed blindly along with their Leaders, no questions & that way thankfully you never have to hear the truth !

OH LOOK the Presidents getting rained on ! Oh my ! That's the real important issue for us to concentrate on today !

http://blogs.aljazeera.com/blog/americas/scandalous-erosion-
us-civil-liberties

[Earfetish]

Morefngdbs, you know nothing about me and just made that post so you can feel smarter about yourself and superior over me.

I don't trust the government you muppet

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 10:14 AM, SuperHitler420 wrote: You know, it really doesn't matter what you think unless you're willing to fight for your beliefs.

That's the smartest thing I've heard from a dumbass in quite some time. Congratulations, sir. I think you're a sir.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 6/5/13 08:17 AM, Poniiboi wrote: Why do you people never question what government tells you and why do you get your moral authority from the words of others?

Why do you make such stupid assumptions about others? Because they don't buy every single thing you're saying, or request a more substantive level of evidence for the arguments you've made? Don't be such an idiot, cupcake. People chastising you for constructing shitty, poorly-backed arguments does NOT constitute some sort of implicit acceptance of everything the government says or does.

What bothers me in particular about that last thread is that the only apparent thing differentiating "you" from "them" is that you're on such a lower rung of the fucking ladder (economically, influentially, et cetera). Your whole screed is about how the government is working the system to keep money in rich people's pockets, and your "solutions" are nothing more than just a few ways for YOU to work the system and keep more money in your pocket. I mean, that's fine and all I suppose, but maybe instead of bitching and moaning about the exact number of beans you have, you concentrate more on where you're planting them and for what reasons. But hey, your stated motivation from the get-go was about "living a life of luxury", so you're also a part of the Selfish Dickhead Club... only, you're financially at the rank of micropenis when compared to the TRULY wealthy and selfish dickheads.

You didn't offer any REAL solutions, only ways to continue existing in a shitty system with a few extra beans to your name. That's why you're on some cupcake shit -- your thinking is soft, small, not entirely unpleasant, but not fulfilling or satisfying in any way. If the system is fucked-up then do something serious about it. Recommending that we move money from a BIG bank to a SMALL bank, buy THIS metal but not THAT metal, invest ONE kind of government-printed toilet paper in purchasing ANOTHER kind of government-printed toilet paper... none of that shit is going to do fuck all in the long run if the whole game is rigged, and perhaps more importantly, none of that shit inherently makes you a better person or your life more fulfilling or impactful to others.

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 11:18 AM, SteveGuzzi wrote:
You didn't offer any REAL solutions, only ways to continue existing in a shitty system with a few extra beans to your name. That's why you're on some cupcake shit -- your thinking is soft, small, not entirely unpleasant, but not fulfilling or satisfying in any way. If the system is fucked-up then do something serious about it. Recommending that we move money from a BIG bank to a SMALL bank, buy THIS metal but not THAT metal, invest ONE kind of government-printed toilet paper in purchasing ANOTHER kind of government-printed toilet paper... none of that shit is going to do fuck all in the long run if the whole game is rigged, and perhaps more importantly, none of that shit inherently makes you a better person or your life more fulfilling or impactful to others.

First of all, fuck you, shithead.
You assume that I think everyone is "in on it" when I make distinctions between good people and bad ones. All of my solutions involve supporting the folks who are just hardworking people trying to help others. Local credit unions are created by local bankers with ties at churches and schools. It WOULD help the local community to invest in a small bank instead of a big one.

The whole game IS rigged. The world is unfair. The point is to tip the unfairness in your direction, because if it is unfair, you can do that. Those are what my tips are geared towards. Hopefully then the people with a little more moral discretion will be able to use their resources to the benefit of those around them rather than the fucktards we have in power now. Gaining resources in fact DOES make you more able to affect the lives of people around you positively. My solutions are not about running away and living in a goddamn cave somewhere. They are about fighting for your piece of the fucking pie, so choke on it.

Silver is the metal to invest in now because even though the game is rigged, if you piggyback off of the people rigging it by purchasing silver right now, you can garner some resources for yourself that you can then use to MAKE PEOPLE'S LIVES BETTER.

Should I continue, motherfucker?

Also, I didn't assume shit, fuckface. I've been reading people's responses and how they just take as canon anything that has an official sounding title to it instead of looking at things with a little common sense.

[SteveGuzzi]

At 6/5/13 11:47 AM, Poniiboi wrote: First of all, BAWWWW :'(

You assume that I think everyone is "in on it" when I make distinctions between good people and bad ones.

Your rants have certain folks names here and there, sure, but you're still doing most of your complaining about 'the government', or 'oil companies' et al, which are also responsible for employing LOTS and LOTS of good, hard-working people.

The whole game IS rigged. The world is unfair. The point is to tip the unfairness in your direction, because if it is unfair, you can do that.

"The system is rigged, the game is unfair, LET'S KEEP PLAYING! Maybe we'll be the ones that come out on top next turn!"

That is fucking weak.

Hopefully then the people with a little more moral discretion will be able to use their resources to the benefit of those around them rather than the fucktards we have in power now. Gaining resources in fact DOES make you more able to affect the lives of people around you positively.

No shit, Shirley; money is a means to an end, it isn't and shouldn't be an end unto itself. Yet that's what you've been making it about this entire time (until now, after you'd been called-out on it). The only motivation you've shared up until this point is luxury for your own fucking self, whilst insulting or making fun of others for not enjoying the same level of luxury as you supposedly do. Where was your moral discretion during all of that?

Money is a powerful resource, but no amount of money can turn a bad idea into a good idea, it can only give a bad idea the shallow resemblance of being a good idea.

My solutions are not about running away and living in a goddamn cave somewhere. They are about fighting for your piece of the fucking pie, so choke on it.

So those are the two options we're left with? Quit playing the game, or cheat better than the other cheaters out there? That's rich. Howsabout CHANGING the game? That's be some real shit. Not this pussy, softy-cake crap you're offering. You aren't breaking any chains, you're just keeping a few extra coins tucked in your fucking rags.

Also, I didn't assume shit, fuckface.

Of course you did. This whole thread is built upon an assumption. When you had brought-up past government misconduct and then cats responded by pointing out that shit some people in the government did decades ago does not establish a "pattern of behavior" and cannot be used as evidence of motives or actions for OTHER people in the government TODAY, your immediate reaction was to accuse them of believing everything the government says.

Just because people don't take YOUR bullshit without any inspection doesn't mean that they DO take the government's bullshit without any inspection.

[Korriken]

At 6/5/13 08:17 AM, Poniiboi wrote: original thought. However, most of the people here don't question anything when it relates to government.

original thought? I haven't seen an original thought come from you since you began posting here.

[mandog]

Again, you don't know much about me, I could be fucking reptilian for all you know, you're the fucking sheep here, not me, did you know that what you're feeling now is affecting the future, or are you too much off a sheep to do research on that? the reason people are easily controlled is because our DNA has been manipulated, or we can go with the theory that aliens (or reptilians, whichever) made us, told in ancient paintings and sculpts, yes I see that triangle with a circle in the middle in the AOL logo, yes I see that at the back of the dollar bill there is an incomplete pyramid with an eye on the top half, aka, illuminati symbols.
And yes I know that every ruler of every country in the world had atleast two bloodlines that linked to another king, dictator, president etc.

I would say 40% of NG are sheeple, and about 20% of them visit the BBS.

[TheMason]

At 6/5/13 09:09 AM, Earfetish wrote: You know nothing about any of us and just made that post so you can feel smarter about yourself and superior over the rest of us.

You nailed it on the head, my friend! Psychologically speaking those who give themselves over to conspiratorial thought are searching for something to make them feel safe, secure, and just a little bit special...after all they have special, esoteric knowledge that the rest of us poor slobs do not! Also, they do not need to be bothered with silly little notions like proof!

At 6/5/13 08:17 AM, Poniiboi wrote: original thought. However, most of the people here don't question anything when it relates to government. It's sad to see how completely beholden you people are to the filtered opinions of the media. You deserve to be led around like sheep, pay all of your earnings to the government in taxes and then die shitting yourself alone with a bag of McDonalds as your fucking fitting last meal.

It is...it's just that we also don't bite at other would-be sheppards who want to control our thoughts and distort our worldview so our perception matches theirs.

Original thought is...well...original. What you are doing here is trying to say that anyone who does agree with you or think the way you do...are brainwashed sheep who do not question. It is funny because it is a taunt to get people to not question your worldview and thought process.

In the end, you are the very thing you attempt to decry.

I guess I have to ask a question. Why do you people never question what government tells you and why do you get your moral authority from the words of others?

Hmmm...because I do not get my moral authority from others. I get mine from experience, education, and observation. Furthermore, I question everything...no matter who is in the White House or controls congress. And in the end, I know the government cannot provide me with the security it advertises...so I strongly support the second amendment.

I should really just join government and shit my decrees down on your heads. Why do anything else if the people only want to be fucking lied to? Give em what they want.

Yes...because a rejection of your paranoia is turning-off our brains and deserving of tyranny.

*braces for disrespectful and expletive laden temper-tantrum*

[BrianEtrius]

Aka "But why doesn't anyone listen to me?" Or "I'm trying really hard to be not insignificant and my opinion matters" thread.

You know what's the funniest thing about all of this? You said it yourself: the game is rigged. There's not a lot you can do. But instead of bitching and whinning like a 5 year old, you can learn the rules and exploit them, like the other people that are ahead. Sure, you still might not be happy, but it's always better to be rich and miserable than poor and miserable. You see a barrier, I see opportunity. And guess what? This kind of behavior is always going to happen! Why? Because we're humans. That's how the world works, and has worked for the past how ever many years of civilization we've had. We're fallible creatures that way. Actually, more than anything, it's a completely American thing to do, screw others out of your deal so you get the majority of the deal. Hurray for unchecked motivation! And this will go on and on. So help yourself to as much pie as you want, make sure you're punching your way to the pie table, because everybody else is doing the exact same thing. Like Adam Smith, and this falls completely in line with neoclassical economics too, is that at the end of the day the person you most care about is yourself. So if that means screwing the other guy so you can eat another day, you're most likely going to do it.

Furthermore: what makes you think you're right? You have an opinion, congratulations. An opinion, by the way, that has been influenced and formed through unique social and cultural experiences/perspectives to yourself. Well so does the rest of the United States, so your opinion is really not important, nor are your ideas that original. Maybe that's why so many people disagree with you.....

So want to be succesful? Learn to exploit a system and stop bitching about it. Human behavior (I.e. greed) never changes, so give in to it, and then worry about your problems. Money has a tendency to make a lot of problems go away. And this is coming from a liberal, lol.

Or, open your mind more. You might learn something. Knowing you though, it might be impossible to get tha message through.

[mandog]

Oh its that guy who makes gay dubstep, now this makes sense, he gets his info from videos on youtube like "Jay-Z illuminati PRINCE" how gay...

[Entice]

No. Not everyone here likes the government. The people here disagree with you because you post bad arguments and things that are just factually wrong. You blame the government for personal problems (like your Facebook comment about killing cops getting deleted). Even if you were right, it doesn't seem like you care too much about the government being corrupt since you'd rather tell everyone how rich you're going to be instead of thinking of real solutions and acting on them.

You're a selfish idiot that hates the government for personal reasons, and your solutions to the problems that you think exist usually involve personal gain. This has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with you wanting to feel important. Just leave.

[Knis]

At 6/5/13 10:01 AM, morefngdbs wrote: I know a sheeple when I sees one ...

One good indicator of a sheep is that the use of redundant portmanteaus like "chillax" or "sheeple".

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 02:49 PM, Knis wrote:

At 6/5/13 10:01 AM, morefngdbs wrote: I know a sheeple when I sees one ...

One good indicator of a sheep is that the use of redundant portmanteaus like "chillax" or "sheeple".

LOL I love it how fag trolls like Mandog who don't do anything try to call productive people ghey. LOL boybitch
Brian doesn't read anything, as usual. Try reading before you just type and type.

85% of you are a bunch of idiots

[Camarohusky]

So the fact that you think everyone is out to get you makes you smarter than everyone else? How does that qualify you to know how the government works or how it should work?

Do you know anything about the law? About how laws are actually made and actually enforced? Do you know why laws are made certain ways and what that has to do with how they are written? No? Then what exactly makes you more qualified than us?

Seriously, I have had more interaction with lawmaking in 30 minute spans of my time than you likely have in your entire life.

[Entice]

At 6/5/13 04:47 PM, Poniiboi wrote: LOL I love it how fag trolls like Mandog who don't do anything try to call productive people ghey. LOL boybitch
Brian doesn't read anything, as usual. Try reading before you just type and type.

85% of you are a bunch of idiots

Oh the irony

[poxpower]

So what are you studying in school again? What career do you want exactly?

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 05:48 PM, Camarohusky wrote: So the fact that you think everyone is out to get you makes you smarter than everyone else? How does that qualify you to know how the government works or how it should work?

Do you know anything about the law? About how laws are actually made and actually enforced? Do you know why laws are made certain ways and what that has to do with how they are written? No? Then what exactly makes you more qualified than us?

Seriously, I have had more interaction with lawmaking in 30 minute spans of my time than you likely have in your entire life.

I get you. You're in law school so you think everything applies to what you are studying. I can't recall the word now, but it's fallacious to try to apply everything to what you are studying. It's natural and we all do it, but that doesn't make it the right way to argue a perspective.

Your lawmaking persepctive can be had by anyone with a few thousand dollars. In and of itself, it means nothing. You are simply swallowing someone else's perspective and paying for it.

For instance, the Jim Crow laws in the South didn't change because someone found a fallacy inside of the laws. They changed because brave protesters changed the perspective of national opinion on them. The laws themselves are not an end, nor are they infallible, nor are they the final word on anything. They are tools. They are creations of fallible humans. Therefore, just because something is law does not make it right. Your argument that I do not formally understand law does not negate my ability to understand its wrongful application to the daily lives of people.

That being said, I might actually go to law school like you to learn how to better manipulate the law if I cannot find another way to make a positive impression on the world.

The others of you said nothing.

[Warforger]

At 6/5/13 08:17 AM, Poniiboi wrote: original thought.

Then leave if that's what you want NG to be, we already had Leanlifter. Otherwise opinions tend to get less original once you know what you're talking about and are around other people who know what they're talking about. It's called becoming educated and mature......

However, most of the people here don't question anything when it relates to government.

No. Like not at all.

It's sad to see how completely beholden you people are to the filtered opinions of the media. You deserve to be led around like sheep, pay all of your earnings to the government in taxes and then die shitting yourself alone with a bag of McDonalds as your fucking fitting last meal.

And you're assuming our opinions come from the media. Wow.

I guess I have to ask a question. Why do you people never question what government tells you

What do you mean? Nobody believes the government, like at all. I've just taken every statement made by politicians as manipulation.

and why do you get your moral authority from the words of others?

We don't. You have yet to prove anything like this and I've asked you to show it.

I should really just join government and shit my decrees down on your heads. Why do anything else if the people only want to be fucking lied to? Give em what they want.

Just walk me through your logic, how do you come to your conclusions?

[ZJ]

At 6/5/13 04:47 PM, Poniiboi wrote:

85% of you are a bunch of idiots

You seem like the kind of guy that goes to a town hall meeting in his favorite trucker cap and monster truck T-Shirt and just spouts a bunch of nonsense about how the government is bad and how people who like/support it are bad, too. Following this, you go back to your trailer, have sex with your sister, and then fall asleep on a pile of Burger King wrappers.

Your main argument tactic seems to be using swear words and, I'm just guessing here, but I assume that when you debate someone in real life, you shout to get your point across instead of using logic. Plus, your sources are probably just conspiracy theory websites that are operated by people like Alex Jones.

So, do me a solid and stop posting like a cunt. TOODLES!

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 08:12 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 6/5/13 08:17 AM, Poniiboi wrote: original thought.

Otherwise opinions tend to get less original once you know what you're talking about and are around other people who know what they're talking about. It's called becoming educated and mature......

Are you fucking kidding me? This is the definition of intellectual laziness. You are without a doubt the most retarded person on this forum. This is laughable...you think you are maturing because you coalesce with others? OMG if this was 1850 you'd be for slavery! If this was 1970 you'd be for Vietnam! What a fool!

[Warforger]

At 6/5/13 08:23 PM, Poniiboi wrote: Are you fucking kidding me? This is the definition of intellectual laziness.

You mean ignoring all of the points of a post and ignoring any evidence contrary to your opinion and going straight to insults?

You are without a doubt the most retarded person on this forum.

Well anyone who doesn't agree with you is stupid.

This is laughable...you think you are maturing because you coalesce with others?

No I'm maturing in the sense I don't think aliens are coming on Earth with UFO's and the government is trying to cover it up, I'm maturing in the sense that I understand the Illuminatti isn't real and most of all I'm actually have some basic understanding of economics and government, something which you lack and downright refuse to learn.

OMG if this was 1850 you'd be for slavery!

Having slaves does seem pretty bad ass.

If this was 1970 you'd be for Vietnam! What a fool!

Really? Because in 1970 no one was for Vietnam. Like at all.

[Poniiboi]

At 6/5/13 09:02 PM, Warforger wrote:

At 6/5/13 08:23 PM, Poniiboi wrote:

aah durrrr

You would have been for slavery, you would have been for Vietnam. Then as soon as public opinion turned against Vietnam, you'd be against it. That's how much of a tool you are.

If slavery was still in existence, trust me...you'd be the slave. Your genetics are not meant to survive much longer, thank God.

By the way, look back on my posts. I haven't said anything about Illuminati or aliens. That was all you, fag. Although Dan Rather and Connie Chung have both reported on the Illuminati, I don't say anything because even mainstream reporters isn't enough for idiots like you. Bilderberg is real, going on right now, and you'll probably say it isn't.

What an idiot. So stupid.

[poxpower]

At 6/5/13 08:23 PM, Poniiboi wrote:

Are you fucking kidding me? This is the definition of intellectual laziness.

Yeah that or maybe, you know, what you do, which is read nothing, source nothing, research nothing, watch nothing and understand nothing while replacing reality with your random opinion on things you know nothing about while just calling others idiots for pointing out your factual errors or general stupidity.

You have the extreme high confidence typical of an ignorant fool.
We all recognize it. We've all seen dozens of people like you over the years.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

I declare Poniiboi the new Shaggy!