Increasing Tax on Violent Games

[BloodCoveredWolf]

So our fucking Vice president Joe Biden wants to increase tax on violent video games because he thinks that's was causing all of todays violence. What a load of shit Games don't cause violence people need too get that shit right. Most of the people who are committing violent crimes had a really hard and bad life. The only reason he wants to do this is so he can fucking be liked from the people. what do you got say about this NG. Here's the story

[Painbringer]

No, but the majority of people think that way.

We gamers are the minority.

[Ragnarokia]

So increasing tax on things = they are bad for society now?

Interesting, so fuel is bad for society. We best do away with our fuel!

[JRob]

It's VP Biden we're talking about, what's new? The guy's a complete nutjob.

[Auz]

Even if we suppose that there is some correlation between violent behaviour and playing violent video games, how in the world is raising taxes going to solve anything? What kind of non-solution is that? How is this "a smart move"? He's really going to have to explain that last one to me, because I don't get it.

[MonoBro]

The article was about taxing violent video games, movies, and all other forms of media; he wants to tax things that he believes to be violent, not just games. He also asked for a study regarding their effects on younger audiences.

Adding taxes as a deterrent is a bit of moral subjugation - also to note is that it would not affect richer viewers. There should be more than enough published studies to make a correlation between violence in media and crimes.

[TheMajormel]

At 5/20/13 03:22 PM, MonoBro wrote: The article was about taxing violent video games, movies, and all other forms of media; he wants to tax things that he believes to be violent, not just games. He also asked for a study regarding their effects on younger audiences.

Adding taxes as a deterrent is a bit of moral subjugation - also to note is that it would not affect richer viewers. There should be more than enough published studies to make a correlation between violence in media and crimes.

Yeah pretty much this. And, The money is going to families affected from violent crimes. That doesn't seem THAT bad.

[Tony-DarkGrave]

At 5/19/13 04:30 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: So increasing tax on things = they are bad for society now?

of course taxes should be few and low. and if there was a correlation between violent video games and violence iy still wouldn't be enough to tax them anyways it would have to be a state issue guys.

[Ceratisa]

So who does this actually help?

[The-Great-One]

This is either one of Joe Biden's rambling ideas or just a political point to make parents happy. I doubt it is going to happen and it is just for Joe Biden's image. You're not gonna find a high-ranking politician talk in favor of video games, it's just not gonna happen, even if they do like video games.

[soulcailber]

don't worry it's never going to happen

[Ceratisa]

At 5/21/13 02:18 PM, The-Great-One wrote: This is either one of Joe Biden's rambling ideas or just a political point to make parents happy. I doubt it is going to happen and it is just for Joe Biden's image. You're not gonna find a high-ranking politician talk in favor of video games, it's just not gonna happen, even if they do like video games.

Ol Joe prefers shooting both barrels of a shotgun into the night to see if he hits anyone instead of just killing pixels.

[GhostPony750]

There's 2 things here that can cause violence:
1. Hard life
2. Violent video games

And many more, but I'll be talking about these 2.

When you play video games and shoot at people when you're a kid, you think it's funny, right?
Well, I have noticed that younger kids, in the CoD era, are much more violent than me and my friends, 15 year old.

It may have huge effect on kids, but probably just little to no effect on mature people.

So I think kids under 12 shouldn't play violent video games, but increasing taxes... won't change any thing. ;)
I actually don't like violent games, and still stick with Pokemon and racing games, since I'm a huge car nerd.

But today, being a kid, not playing Cod mean you suck, literally. So they kinda have no choice other than playing these games, because for kids it's really important to have a lot of friends, even if they're bad friends. And since "every kids" are playing violent games nowaday, like GTA or CoD or whatever, well... evey other kids follow.

But well, these are my observations, and that's why I don't like kids, always doing random stuff to feel badass and have "friends".

So... no taxes and no violent video games for kids resume everything!

[SmartyPants]

Video games are an easy scapegoat. People will continue to blame video games for violence for a long time.

Increasing the tax is really pointless and dumb

[MonoBro]

At 5/21/13 05:38 PM, GhostPony750 wrote: There's 2 things here that can cause violence:
1. Hard life
2. Violent video games

I don't believe the games themselves make kids more violent, I believe that the parent saying yes to everything the kid wants leads to violence. To state it plainly, parents who let there children play "M" rated games are usually bad parents - parents often let their kids play rated "M" games thinking that all games are made for kids, when in actuality, rated "M" is the equivalent to a rated "R" in terms of violence, gore, language, and etc.

Most parents would say yes to a kid playing a rated "M" game, but no to that kid seeing a rated "R" movie because they are too lazy or uninformed to properly check the content that their children are watching. Bad parents cause violent children. I don't believe it is the game making the kid more violent, but the parent letting there child do whatever they want.

Kids playing violent video games is usually a tell of a bad parent. If a parent were to allow their kid to play those games but were strict with everything else, I doubt the kid would have violent tendencies; parents who let their kids play violent video games usually let their kids do anything they want.

[mechadude32]

If video games were really that influential on the little kid's minds, don't you think we'd have a bunch of people wearing red shirts with overalls trying to save princesses while doing shrooms? or a bunch of people getting drunk and pretending to be squirrels? Really, people are just fucking retarded sometimes...

[Sword-of-Kings]

Raising taxes on violent video games won't do anything. Why do people think that video games cause violence? If a person goes on a rampage, don't blame violent video games. The people that did it were fucked up in the head before they ever picked up a controller. Like when people blamed the Columbine High School Massacre on Doom. Eric Harris was a psychopath and Dylan Klebold was a lovelorn depressive.

[Thecrazyman]

At 5/21/13 06:04 PM, SmartyPants wrote: Video games are an easy scapegoat. People will continue to blame video games for violence for a long time.

Increasing the tax is really pointless and dumb

Which in turn causes some human beings to become human screw-ups, pointing the finger of blame on something for the most ill reasons imaginable when the finger of blame should be pointed on the individual people held responsible.

Taken for granted people who simply keep blaming video games and other forms of entertainment for the violent actions of other people aren't acting like human beings, they're acting like human screw-ups, human beings putting video games into politics is another sign of human screw-ups.

Human beings should be human beings, not human screw-ups and increasing tax on violent video games just because corrupt politicians think that violent video game are the big cause of real life violence is not only a major human screw-up but also a major sign of immaturity at it's wake, I don't care how old these politicians are, I care about how mature these politicians are and if they are proven to be "THAT" immature and there still in power, then why are they still in power to begin with???

This is without a doubt one of the BIG reasons why video gaming entertainment should stay out of politics among with other forms of entertainment such as movies, music and even books. Corrupt politicians like Joe Biden got one thing coming, they will one day see the "Wall of Separation between Politics and Entertainment" be established so they'll never again bring violent video games into politics!

[T3XT]

At 5/19/13 04:30 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: So increasing tax on things = they are bad for society now?

Interesting, so fuel is bad for society. We best do away with our fuel!

If you don't understand politics, don't involve yourself in them.

There's a reason they want to add extra taxes to violent video games. It's the same reason they added an extra tax on cigarettes, alcohol, and gasoline: they want there to be less of it. And why do you think they'd want to limit the number of violent video games? I don't think I need to explain it from there.

Seeing as how there is no proven link between violent video games and actual behavior, the government's logic on this is crap.

Every generation, power-grabbing politicians need a new scapegoat. When movies first became popular, they were the scapegoat. When rock 'n' roll was first created, they blamed that. And now they need a new invention to target, so nothing works better than video games.

[Ragnarokia]

At 5/22/13 01:08 AM, T3XT wrote:

At 5/19/13 04:30 PM, Ragnarokia wrote: So increasing tax on things = they are bad for society now?

Interesting, so fuel is bad for society. We best do away with our fuel!

If you don't understand politics, don't involve yourself in them.

There's a reason they want to add extra taxes to violent video games. It's the same reason they added an extra tax on cigarettes, alcohol, and gasoline: they want there to be less of it. And why do you think they'd want to limit the number of violent video games? I don't think I need to explain it from there.

Because it is done for the good of the world and not to line their own pockets while making it look like they care?

I don't get involved in politics, but that doesn't mean I'm blind.