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Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 12:12:38 Reply

So the EDM scene is all cluttered with garbage dubstep that all sound exactly alike.
The basic screamer bass with those hitch pitched blips and a basic melody with mediocre drums.
And people are still buying this stuff! I've been trying to break away from that and try something new, so I've been experimenting with different basses and drums to create something unique.

What I'm trying to get at is we need to start an experimental movement! No more Skrillex wannabees and Knife Party ripoffs.
If you do produce dubstep/electro ect. I challenge you to put up an experimental track that features unique styles that you've developed on your own. :D

Music is always evolving, but we've been stuck on this same style for far too long and it's getting old. We need something fresh and exciting. Of course there are artists who have already broken away from this and has popularized it! Zeds Dead is a great example.

So what do you say? LET'S MOVE!

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 12:22:27 Reply

Try here: Collab Forum

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 12:25:41 Reply

At 5/4/13 12:22 PM, BrokenDeck wrote: Try here: Collab Forum

I don't think he was requesting a collaboration.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 12:40:20 Reply

At 5/4/13 12:22 PM, BrokenDeck wrote: Try here: Collab Forum

I'm not trying to collab, I want to express the idea of branching away from mainstream EDM and focus on trying to evolve!

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 16:41:33 Reply

there are tons of shit out there that you don't even know about. stop looking at mainstream garbage. go for the underground.

for example.

ragga jungle.


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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 16:51:59 Reply

At 5/4/13 04:41 PM, Sequenced wrote: there are tons of shit out there that you don't even know about. stop looking at mainstream garbage. go for the underground.

for example.

ragga jungle.

That's not really what I meant, but I could check it out.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 17:49:05 Reply

From what I understand you're just whining because people don't listen to music you're listening to. That's just snobbish. Also, pretty sure most dubstep artists are moving towards the genre's more minimalistic approach again. Yes, even Skrillex.


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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 19:04:08 Reply

At 5/4/13 05:49 PM, Syztm wrote: From what I understand you're just whining because people don't listen to music you're listening to. That's just snobbish. Also, pretty sure most dubstep artists are moving towards the genre's more minimalistic approach again. Yes, even Skrillex.

Whining? How am I whining? All I was trying to get at was people should post their experimental songs here and just talk about it. I'm so sick of you people who always find something negative about my posts. I don't care if you think I'm whining.
If you're not going to contribute to this thread then be on your way.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 20:24:20 Reply

At 5/4/13 07:04 PM, DeadRewind wrote:
At 5/4/13 05:49 PM, Syztm wrote: From what I understand you're just whining because people don't listen to music you're listening to. That's just snobbish. Also, pretty sure most dubstep artists are moving towards the genre's more minimalistic approach again. Yes, even Skrillex.
Whining? How am I whining? All I was trying to get at was people should post their experimental songs here and just talk about it. I'm so sick of you people who always find something negative about my posts. I don't care if you think I'm whining.
If you're not going to contribute to this thread then be on your way.

As long as this doesn't turn out to be another competing Audio Advert thread. By all means, feel free to discuss what elements should be involved in experimental dubstep, ask questions, whatever it may be (same applies for ANYONE posting here), but no turning this into an Audio Advert thread.


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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-04 21:33:07 Reply

rob clouth has already done "experimental dubstep" way better than anybody here ever will

we should make trap instead yea? hmu if u agre


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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 11:39:43 Reply

classic dubstep is definitely not all about "making crazy sounds". it's atmospheric and spacious. y'know, like dub. :v


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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 11:40:43 Reply

At 5/5/13 11:39 AM, midimachine wrote: classic dubstep is definitely not all about "making crazy sounds". it's atmospheric and spacious. y'know, like dub. :v

actually nevermind i get what you're saying
dub's full of crazy sounds too wtf am i on haha


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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 12:09:04 Reply

More music than you know exists right next door. You just have to look for it.

Fuck it. Dumbstep wasn't experimental enough for you people?

Giants are too tall. We'll have to stand on top of each others shoulders to survive.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 13:44:03 Reply

At 5/5/13 11:32 AM, Cabbster wrote:
At 5/4/13 05:49 PM, Syztm wrote: From what I understand you're just whining because people don't listen to music you're listening to. That's just snobbish. Also, pretty sure most dubstep artists are moving towards the genre's more minimalistic approach again. Yes, even Skrillex.

Although skrillex completely changed genres (to garage) this is more or less true.

Idk what the kids are calling it, but this damn over simplisitc getter-style crap is so bad. Its like people took all the bad stereotypes of dubstep and put them together in one damn genre. Etc. 99% of darkstepwarrior's channel

also

the zeds dead album was totally status quo lol

as long as the kick snare is 1 3, odds are its not experimental.

experimental and innovational are two different things

I'll direct you to my more offbeat, sound designey stuff.
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/masq-muk-wip
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/major-lazor-original-don

I try to do something innovational in all my tunes, not all my stuff is experimental though.

Here's some great experimental stuff
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9bJnTTVbQk
http://soundcloud.com/amon-tobin/bed-time-stories-extended-l ive
http://soundcloud.com/amon-tobin/lost-found
etc all of recent amon tobin

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 20:05:53 Reply

I'll direct you to my more offbeat, sound designey stuff.
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/masq-muk-wip

This is EXACTLY what I'm talking about. That synth is just so gnarlyyyyy. I love it.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 21:10:27 Reply

Holy shit, jpbear. Did you just do that, lol.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 22:18:56 Reply

I'll direct you to my more offbeat, sound designey stuff.
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/masq-muk-wip
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/major-lazor-original-don

What do you use in your sound design? It sounds like you're using granular synthesis and some time stretching, but I could be totally off. Those sounds are really cool.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 22:42:38 Reply

At 5/5/13 10:18 PM, conorstrejcek wrote:
I'll direct you to my more offbeat, sound designey stuff.
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/masq-muk-wip
http://soundcloud.com/masqofficial/major-lazor-original-don
What do you use in your sound design? It sounds like you're using granular synthesis and some time stretching, but I could be totally off. Those sounds are really cool.

It's most likely FM Synthesis through Imagine-Line's "Harmor." :D

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-05 23:24:09 Reply

It's most likely FM Synthesis through Imagine-Line's "Harmor." :D

Cool, thanks. I looked into it and Harmor has some pretty cool features, maybe I'll pick it up some time when there is a sale.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-06 00:56:54 Reply

At 5/5/13 10:42 PM, DeadRewind wrote:
It's most likely FM Synthesis through Imagine-Line's "Harmor." :D

yea harmors pretty great, but any resampler will do the trick. if you really think harmor is the "answer" you need to learn your craft better.

alchemy, padshop, iris (for some things)

knowledge of proper reese effect chains/busses and filtering is crucial; getting a good starting point in your live synth is crucial as well.

harmor is lacking in features such as grain size and other more traditional granular techniques, so using traditional granulizers in the process is important.

Plenty of people know how to do things just as well in "live" synths so dont encourage this "harmor is the answer" mentality that has been around the internet for a good half year now.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-06 01:24:24 Reply

I highly disagree with your statement, OP. Dubstep is one of teh fastest evolving genres to have ever existed in the EDM scene. There are TONS of different styles that have come and gone and hidden themselves over the past (not even) 3-4 years. Sure, there will always be those Skrillex-like producers and such, but that's to expect. When The Beatles showed up and got big, there was an explosion of Boy Bands. It's just the way the music world works.

What I do agree with you, though, is that experimentation is always good. I just don't think that "Dubstep is all old and the same now." You just gotta look to find something new.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-06 06:03:46 Reply

At 5/6/13 12:56 AM, jpbear wrote:
At 5/5/13 10:42 PM, DeadRewind wrote:
It's most likely FM Synthesis through Imagine-Line's "Harmor." :D
yea harmors pretty great, but any resampler will do the trick. if you really think harmor is the "answer" you need to learn your craft better.

I never said that, I was simply stating that he's most likely using it, I've never used harmor in my life, though I'd love to try it.

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Response to Experimental dubstep! 2013-05-06 06:05:24 Reply

What I do agree with you, though, is that experimentation is always good. I just don't think that "Dubstep is all old and the same now." You just gotta look to find something new.

Experimenting is the only way music will evolve, there has to be those artists that take things to a new level and aren't afraid to take that risky step forward to try something new! (: