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At 5/7/13 09:15 PM, aviewaskewed wrote: So does every politician now, and in the future. That's why government no longer serves the people.

I refuse to let it slide just because it's the norm. Just because it's commonplace now doesn't mean it's right or excusable.

Or just someone who has been paying attention since he got elected.

pssst. They're on the same side. It's an ILLUSION. Obama's policies and actions should show you that

This should be fun. Because clearly your one of those people who has no fucking clue what the word means or what an actual dictator does.

Ever read a history book?

Then Bush is a dictator too since he started putting those prescences over there. By the way, this in NO WAY makes him a dictator since he had to go through others to get that done. He didn't just order it all by himself.

Bush was also a dictator as well. However, admitting how your "hope and change" guy is the same as Bush doesn't make you look very bright

Maybe it doesn't make him a dictator. It does make him a killer. Remember, HE is in charge of the United States military. No one else. Just him.

This again, is not making him a dictator. Scary asshole type of person who should maybe play more call of duty on the playstation then video games that result in death? Ok, I'll give you those. But that does not make him a dictator, words mean what they mean. That's why we invented words, so we could put a definition to a thought.

Ok, it just makes him a killer. Is that any better?

Name specific legislation. By the way that legislation had to go through Congress, if he was a dictator, he wouldn't have needed to do that. Please learn the definitions of words so as to avoid looking a fool in the future.

Affordable Care Act, and his expiration of Bush tax cuts.

Not the actions of a dictator. Also not even an original bad idea. Republican Jesus was doing really the same sort of illegal crap in the 80's with the Contras.

Who said i supporeted the Republicans doing it? Why is that your automatic rebuttal? "Yeah, Obama is bad, but look, the repubs did it too!" That doesn't make Obama look any better. In fact, it just makes him look like a republican himself.

Not the move of a dictator. That is being done with the full blessing of the rest of the government, also that was something set up by the prior administration that he odeously carried over.

Right. Hitler, Mussolini, Mao, etc, never imprisoned people for no reason.

Not really no, this has been shot down a thousand times and if you'd like to continue arguing it, then I'd like to see some proof of your law training and degree in such. Otherwise, shush.

Um, no, he forced it on states without allowing them the opportunity to opt out of it. He said it himself.

So have the Republicans for years! That's what the government at the local, state, and federal level does, it's corrupt and it steals.

Hi, the republicans are not currently in power. Again, you're making your guy look pretty bad by saying he just copies republicans.

BTW, the taxes taken out of my paycheck were less under Bush, by the way, and I didn't have a manditory insurance bill every month.

At 5/7/13 09:14 PM, Poniiboi wrote: I didn't get what I want because you still get to make stupid comments :/
I can't believe you morons above me still think Reagan is somehow better than Obama. You guys are totally brainwashed. You pick a side based on which news stations your parents watch and just believe whatever they say. Both sides suck and you guys deserve to have your tax money vacuumed away from you.

TRANSLATION: You don't agree with me, so you deserve to be a victim of crime

How demo-publican of you.

At 5/7/13 08:21 PM, UrMonsta wrote: TOASTY! I hate them becasue they are SOCIALIST Pseudo Communists in disguise...

There are some people who believe that.....

I could raise arguments of how bad Hoover was.

Well duh no one would be caught dead protecting Hoover in the modern day. Mainly because everyone's a Keynesian now or at least their economic viewpoints are heavily influenced by Keynesian Economics (particularly Supply-Siders).

But then again Lydon B Johnson was a total warmonger and utter belligerent ass-hat.

Kennedy was more of a warmonger than he was honestly. As was Eisenhower. Johnson was only doing what he thought Kennedy would do. But other than that if you cut out the Vietnam war from his Presidency you quite easily have one of the best Presidency's ever with one of the most skilled politician in US history. After decades of forestalling he managed to get Civil RIghts Legislation passed, he managed to get Medicare and Medicaid passed etc. etc.

people have plenty of reason to hate Nixon too.

Again cut out Watergate and you also have one of the most skilled politicians in US history with many accomplishments.

But none of them have done the economic and social damage the three I presented have caused.

Oh, they didn't? I'm sorry did you even read a History textbook? Hoover downright watched as the US turned on its head and massive layoffs occured, his Hawley-Swoot Tariff deepened the effects of the Depression. How have Clinton, Carter and Obama done anything to that nature? Better yet, under Johnson there were so many riots, hell University students were getting shot, people were constantly protesting across the nation, race riots occured in cities like LA or Detroit, a goddamn draft was initiated prompting many to burn their draft cards. Nixon was even worse as he revealed decades of not just his but the whole Executives crimes such as J.Edgar Hoover or the abuses of the CIA, he essentially killed any trust in government people had. There is no way in hell that either Carter, Clinton or Obama were anywhere near as harmful as those 3, hell Nixon fucking resigned and is the only President to do so, Johnson didn't even run for re-election because he would've had too hard of a time to even win the nomination, Hoover barely won his parties nomination. The only one of those 3 who were anywhere near that was Carter. Other than that they haven't done ANYTHING on the scale of Johnson, Hoover or Nixon.

Likewise you seem to overlook a lot of Obama's past rhetoric and past speeches when he was a representative in Chicago. Even his 'Half black" ass got on the whole "Corporate greed is White Man's Greed."

Where? I've heard accusations that he was a racist, but I haven't seen any ad or speech by him that was him formulating his campaign on hating white people.

So who is president during the time America's deficit is so tremendously high it exceeded any and all past records? My goodness if i listed all the reasons Obama was such a fail no one would go through it all.

That's more logical, but even then deficits aren't that bad in comparison to other things. Considering the US can literally keep going into debt since at what point too much debt is too much isn't really clear.

Honestly I hate both parties equally.

But why do I hate Obama??? Let his track record speak for me! Nothing has improved. Everything is getting worst.

Of course things have improved, it's just the way they're improving is pretty poor in the sense that it is recovering very slowly.

And with "Quantitative Easing" as done by his cronies in the Federal Reserve BANK the Dollar we all know and love will go the way of the German Deutschmark circa 1922.

What? That's not how Hyperinflation works. The Deutschmark was devalued because the Germans decided to print more money to cover spending. In the US Monetary policy is severed from Congress so no stupid Senator from Idaho or whatever can push Congress to do something stupid like that. The actual Federal Reserve is arguably the most competent Executive Agency since for once they're filled with people whose only qualifications are expertise not party background.

So what if Obama's policies break America once and for all. What would you care?

Because they're not. People say this stuff about every President ever and it amounts to essentially nothing. It's a huge exaggeration to mobilize some sort of urgent protest. The President isn't that powerful in the Domestic realm, hell the people he appoints are more powerful than him in some cases like the Federal Reserve Chairman.

BTW the way you speak (er. write) makes me think you live in some whitewashed world where nothing goes wrong and racism doesn't exist except in the hearts of deluded white people.

No, I asked you where Obama formulated his campaign around blaming white people for the problems of the nation. In fact Obama made the correct choice by not doing anything like that at all. The only assumption I can make is that you only think that since he's black.

I bet you assume Obama isn't playing some agenda behind our backs. If I didn't know any better I would swear I smelled a effing Communist PIG in the Whitehouse! But what would you care about that? I bet you also have a Che Guevarra poster on your wall too. Not to sound harsh here but you are not one of those "Revolutionary" losers are you?

I don't but I do have a book of the History of Communism written by a very Anti-Communist Conservative Historian who goes into very good detail the tactics of these parties. It's true they would in fact infiltrate Leftist parties, they did that in Britain with the Labor party for example. It's not anything like Obama though because all of the successful Communist takeovers were by violent revolution, not elections. The only Communist to actually be elected as Salvador Allende in Chile, but he wasn't anything like the other Communist leaders since he wasn't repressive. I guess he would make the only good comparison therefore, so let's see, he nationalized Copper mines which crashed the economy and all. What has Obama nationalized? Roughly nothing. Allende implemented Collectivization, what has Obama done? Nothing of that nature. So right off the bat Obama has no similarity with the most moderate successful Communist in history, and Allende was facing a very hostile media and government. This is the central distinction, Obama has added regulations, but he has not nationalized anything.

And besides, the last President to do anything remotely like a Communist was Abraham Lincoln.

At 5/7/13 09:36 PM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 5/7/13 09:14 PM, Poniiboi wrote: I didn't get what I want because you still get to make stupid comments :/
I can't believe you morons above me still think Reagan is somehow better than Obama. You guys are totally brainwashed. You pick a side based on which news stations your parents watch and just believe whatever they say. Both sides suck and you guys deserve to have your tax money vacuumed away from you.

TRANSLATION: You don't agree with me, so you deserve to be a victim of crime

How demo-publican of you.

You think you're so independent but your viewpoint EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN IT might as well be off of a neocon teleprompter. You can't think of anything outside of what you have been spoon fed.

At 5/7/13 11:08 PM, Poniiboi wrote: You think you're so independent but your viewpoint EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN IT might as well be off of a neocon teleprompter. You can't think of anything outside of what you have been spoon fed.

OOO, I love this part!!!

Ok, go ahead, tell me which neocon policies and concepts i subscribe to :)

At 5/7/13 11:59 PM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 5/7/13 11:08 PM, Poniiboi wrote: You think you're so independent but your viewpoint EVERY TIME I'VE SEEN IT might as well be off of a neocon teleprompter. You can't think of anything outside of what you have been spoon fed.

OOO, I love this part!!!

Ok, go ahead, tell me which neocon policies and concepts i subscribe to :)

Why would I repeat everything you've said? Not only would I be blaspheming against all that is holy, but I'm sure that all my teeth would fall out from the head rot.

At 5/8/13 12:59 AM, Poniiboi wrote: Why would I repeat everything you've said? Not only would I be blaspheming against all that is holy, but I'm sure that all my teeth would fall out from the head rot.

Listen here son, if you're going to throw accusations around about my beliefs or trying to say I believe something I don't, you better back it up.

Now, before you make yourself look any more stupid, I suggest you start naming some neocon ideas i support. Go ahead. if I'm a neocon, it'll be easy

At 5/8/13 01:33 AM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 5/8/13 12:59 AM, Poniiboi wrote: Why would I repeat everything you've said? Not only would I be blaspheming against all that is holy, but I'm sure that all my teeth would fall out from the head rot.

Listen here son, if you're going to throw accusations around about my beliefs or trying to say I believe something I don't, you better back it up.

Now, before you make yourself look any more stupid, I suggest you start naming some neocon ideas i support. Go ahead. if I'm a neocon, it'll be easy

One indication that you're a neocon shonuff is that you think you can order people around to do exactly what you want. And one indication that I am a free thinker is that I know that I DON'T have to do what you say.

At 5/8/13 03:10 AM, Poniiboi wrote: One indication that you're a neocon shonuff is that you think you can order people around to do exactly what you want. And one indication that I am a free thinker is that I know that I DON'T have to do what you say.

i'm not ordering anyone around, i'm asking you to back up your slanderous claim.

See, the reason you won't/can't, is because you and I both no know there is no evidence of me supporting a single neocon platform or idea. Isn't it?

At 5/8/13 03:13 AM, LemonCrush wrote: fart noises

Why aren't you in bed? It's late, honey.

At 5/8/13 03:31 AM, Poniiboi wrote: Why aren't you in bed? It's late, honey.

So you admit I'm not actually a neocon, and you were lying.

Thank you.

At 5/8/13 04:34 AM, LemonCrush wrote:

At 5/8/13 03:31 AM, Poniiboi wrote: Why aren't you in bed? It's late, honey.

So you admit I'm not actually a neocon, and you were lying.

Thank you.

That's exactly what I said, yup.

I wanted my Obama Bucks, and Obama Phone. I like Free Shit, and I like being a Lazy Bum.

At 5/11/13 04:25 AM, TheKlown wrote: I wanted my Obama Bucks, and Obama Phone. I like Free Shit, and I like being a Lazy Bum.

Translation: Anyone who votes Obama is probably a lazy loser on welfare and proud of it.

Good lord Klown, critically analyze your beliefs instead of sounding like a partisan loyalist.

At 5/11/13 05:32 AM, Light wrote:

At 5/11/13 04:25 AM, TheKlown wrote: I wanted my Obama Bucks, and Obama Phone. I like Free Shit, and I like being a Lazy Bum.

Translation: Anyone who votes Obama is probably a lazy loser on welfare and proud of it.

Good lord Klown, critically analyze your beliefs instead of sounding like a partisan loyalist.

You do realize the lazy people decided the Election right? If people on Welfare weren't allowed to Vote, than Romney would have Easily won.

If no Democrats voted then Romney would have won. Thanks for listening to my insightful analysis of election night.

At 5/11/13 02:04 PM, TheKlown wrote: You do realize the lazy people decided the Election right? If people on Welfare weren't allowed to Vote, than Romney would have Easily won.

Last I checked lazy people don't even vote. The groups with the least education and the least income vote the least.

I voted for Obama:

In simple terms, my morals aren't for sale.

I think Romney might have been able to salvage the economy faster, but I didn't like his other views of personal freedoms or moral issues. Not allowing Gays to be married, banning abortion, refusing to give the poor health care, etc...

To me, America is the land of the free and I can't vote for a man who thinks that this freedom only extends to wealthy, white, non-gay men.

Obama might mean we as a nation take a hit in the pockets, but I don't think it's anything so sever that we can't recover from it. It's our job as a people to make the right decisions not just for us right now, but for all of us in the many, many generations to follow.

At 5/11/13 02:04 PM, TheKlown wrote:

At 5/11/13 05:32 AM, Light wrote:

At 5/11/13 04:25 AM, TheKlown wrote: I wanted my Obama Bucks, and Obama Phone. I like Free Shit, and I like being a Lazy Bum.

Translation: Anyone who votes Obama is probably a lazy loser on welfare and proud of it.

Good lord Klown, critically analyze your beliefs instead of sounding like a partisan loyalist.

You do realize the lazy people decided the Election right? If people on Welfare weren't allowed to Vote, than Romney would have Easily won.

If they weren't allowed to vote, we wouldn't have a democracy(Or "republic" for those of you who love being pedantic), now would we?

At 5/13/13 06:52 PM, CacheHelper wrote: I voted for Obama:

In simple terms, my morals aren't for sale.

I did not vote for Obama for the a similar motivation. Someone paid me $100 to vote for Obama. Knowing that it is illegal to buy a vote, I pocketed the cash and did not vote, because voting Romney would create the logical relationship that I accepted money to vote against a candidate. Bottom line though, I think that $100 did more for me than either candidate will ever do.

At 5/20/13 01:30 AM, Light wrote:

At 5/11/13 02:04 PM, TheKlown wrote:

At 5/11/13 05:32 AM, Light wrote:

... If people on Welfare weren't allowed to Vote, than Romney would have Easily won.

If they weren't allowed to vote, we wouldn't have a democracy(Or "republic" for those of you who love being pedantic), now would we?

Actually we could still have a republic, as our leaders would be chosen by a method other than heredity that was prescribed by law. Technically we wouldn't' be much less of a democracy as most states forbid some people, ie felons, from voting.

But on the OP question. I supported but didn't vote for Obama in the last election, my reasons are simple;

1. Romney's 47% comment wasn't just insensitive to the poor,veterans, etc. , it was also an admission that trickle down economics is incredible.

2. Since Obama's inauguration Republicans have been playing political games that seriously harm the country in an attempt to regain the presidency. I felt that rewarding such behavior was inappropriate.

3. A SCOTUS justice will likely need to replaced soon, Romney bucking for reelection would be required in this political climate to nominate (IMO) the worst possible candidates.

4. In all honesty Romney struck me as an unfeeling sociopath, I mean every stillframe I've seen o him, he looks like a damned wax statue.