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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 22:08:52 Reply

At 4/21/13 09:02 PM, Trillionaire wrote: Not yet. We're talking about the same program which, to my little knowledge, is incomplete. What the NSA does right now is archive most data, file items by word value and relevence, organize relationships between known groups, track user identities, and study the internet use of specific individuals after the fact. They've been developing the scaffolding for a new system which is being built in on the east coast to allow them to store 100% of the communications, track more meaningful relations, study the behavior of the entire population in detail, and anticipate the decisions groups are likely to make. Kinda like Minority Report using stats analysis.

Okay, that's actually really interesting and I'd appreciate it if you could give me a link about this so I can read about it. But, the fact that they have been doing this and are developing a new architecture to sort though all of this information right now doesn't back up your claim that the Patriot Act doesn't allow them to "...build a working model of the social dynamics surrounding the life of possible suspects." Isn't this literally what the NSA and other agencies have been doing, and are currently doing right now? I thought this was the primary goal of the Utah Data Center. I would think it wouldn't be built if there were legality concerns. Which, honestly, haven't been too much of an issue due to emergency powers post 9/11.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 22:29:36 Reply

Holy shit this thing was intense.

I saw the news unfold during a vacation so I've been out of commission for a while, but damn when they released that video of the kid fighting back, it kinda just showed the kind of cajones those chechens carry. Now granted the bastard is terrorist (or criminal or whatever the term you want to use for a murderer) scum but I have slight sympathy for him.

The fact that this Dzhokar is only 19 and literally everyone save for the uncle who personally knew him has said kind words about him and expressed disbelief makes me believe Tamerlan brainwashed him.

For starters the fact the kid gave himself up is the biggest indication, granted he probably ran through all his ammunition first before (and btw does anyone now what type of firearm he was using?) rather than go out in a literal blaze (assuming he was strapped with explosives) shows a type of fear/self-preservation normally absent from such Jihadists.

Now granted these dudes were chechens, who tend to be more Muhj, than suicide bombers, so maybe they just wanted to bring war to America but rather not face the repercussions, so I guess what I'm saying is, maybe they were used more as mercenaries, and are being handled by AQ or one of their offshoots. Which personally I'm more willing to believe given the Tamerlan's trip to Russia and the fact that he must of done something to get the Russkies attention, and normally that'd have to involve a trip to his homeland and some shady dealings with some shady characters, unless they just noticed he was chechen and wanted to simply harass him, which probably was not the case.

And then the guy just told his kid brother about it and he joined up or the older brother just had this idea alone, and the were just lone wolves.

Though regardless of the scenario, I'm sure Dzhokar was merely a follower. I mean if you have friends with older brothers the wider the age gap, the greater the respect is. I mean I know firsthand, my younger brother and I only share a year between us. While one of my good friend's brother is older than him by 5 years, and the respect the kid has him for him is nearly reverent. Not a bad word about the man will ever be uttered from this kid, hell he's always bragging about his accomplishments, and rarely talks about the guy's pitfalls.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 01:37:18 Reply

Mike Dice and Glen Beck are pointing fingers at our FBI, saying our OWN FBI is crooked... I won't agree with this until they show me proof that our FBI are that shady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeB89O4hI7g


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 01:42:39 Reply

At 4/22/13 01:37 AM, TheKlown wrote: Mike Dice and Glen Beck are pointing fingers at our FBI, saying our OWN FBI is crooked... I won't agree with this until they show me proof that our FBI are that shady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeB89O4hI7g

IS dice a new guy? I've heard of Glen no one mentions savage.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 14:08:56 Reply

guys, WAKE UP

this is all a calculated move by the government and the news outlets to increase profits and scare the sheeple.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 14:12:19 Reply

At 4/15/13 03:13 PM, Zachary wrote: http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013-boston-marathon-finish-line/


Two explosions went off recently at the finish line of the Boston Marathon. Story still developing.

Thanks for bringing this fucking city drama to newgrounds.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 14:58:07 Reply

At 4/22/13 02:08 PM, samuelclemens wrote: guys, WAKE UP

this is all a calculated move by the government and the news outlets to increase profits and scare the sheeple.

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If Politicians try to mess with our freedoms, than they'll get JFK'd in return. They need to shut the hell up about limiting how many bullets you can have in your guns, otherwise I hope some maniac puts a bullet in their head. I don't like Politicians, especially liberal ones. If they fear guns so much, why don't these rich politicians who steal our money move the HELL out of our country?


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 15:15:27 Reply

If Politicians try to mess with our freedoms, than they'll get JFK'd in return.

Not necessarily. And the verb "JFK'd" sounds like it has a more positive connotation, like a headshot but in a presidential and heroic way. Unless you don't find JFK heroic or presidential.

:They need to shut the hell up about limiting how many bullets you can have in your guns, otherwise I hope some maniac puts a bullet in their head.

So they need to inhibit their harmless free speech or you hope they get murdered? I don't know, but using that kind of brute power to oppress the advocates against certain guns or gun parts seems much more Draconian than using government power to banish certain guns or gun parts in the first place.

I don't like Politicians, especially liberal ones. If they fear guns so much, why don't these rich politicians who steal our money move the HELL out of our country?

Are liberal politicians the only politicians who steal our money, or are you referring to all politicians, just emphasizing the liberals? Also, the reason why politicians (or anyone else, for that matter) won't leave a country for its certain pro-gun policies is that no one in their right mind would just pick up their suitcases and leave because they disagree with one or few issues. If they find more good in a country than bad, then it does not make sense that they would just leave like that.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 17:13:59 Reply

So the Chechens (Wahhabis) came to the U.S.? Hehe get ready for the party .... if it is true that the Chechens are guilty then soon will be others. Those who will avenge the fallen brothers. Here's your freedom fighters idiots.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 18:04:53 Reply

At 4/21/13 06:20 PM, Trillionaire wrote: This Ricin letter fellow doesn't seem to be a conspi-retard... actually. Just someone who was spooked at a morgue.

He says he was a local musician who started a cleaning business and in the 1990s stumbled upon a refrigerator filled with dismembered bodyparts in the morgue of a local not-for-profit hospital. His contention is that they're involved in the illegal organ market.

He was obviously intelligent. Surely he would know a poison letter would not reach the president. This guy is clearly being set up.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 18:23:33 Reply

At 4/22/13 06:13 PM, Trillionaire wrote:
At 4/22/13 06:04 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: This guy is clearly being set up.
That doesn't follow logically. Stop being a moron.

If I recall the guy you are responding to is also a holocaust denier.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 19:07:47 Reply

At 4/22/13 06:23 PM, Ceratisa wrote:
At 4/22/13 06:13 PM, Trillionaire wrote:
At 4/22/13 06:04 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: This guy is clearly being set up.
That doesn't follow logically. Stop being a moron.
If I recall the guy you are responding to is also a holocaust denier.

I deny that gas chambers were used, and death tolls were greatly exaggerated, not everything else that happened. I won't bother derailing this thread, though. This guy is totally unrelated to the chechens. Why would he send a poison letter? He was clearly someone who was wanted out of the way.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 19:11:08 Reply

I'm not sure about out of the way, but I have a hard time believing that anyone is dumb enough to assume that it would actually reach anyone important or do anything.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 21:00:14 Reply

Has anyone checked out the address of the explosions/Finish line ? 666.

The beast made it's mark


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 21:18:56 Reply

At 4/22/13 07:07 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:

I deny that gas chambers were used, and death tolls were greatly exaggerated, not everything else that happened. I won't bother derailing this thread, though. This guy is totally unrelated to the chechens. Why would he send a poison letter? He was clearly someone who was wanted out of the way.

I remember asking you to provide some proofs which you never did, this could be your latest opportunity to do so in order to back up what you said that time.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:18:51 Reply

Here's some video from the scene. They're trying to give up and saying they're innocent, but the cops keep shooting. Of course the cops will be out to kill someone suspected of a crime such as this. There's also this article, which explains how the photo of the guy with both legs blown off seems impossible. This same article was posted on other sites, but those sites have since gone offline. This seems like there'd be nothing for the government to gain from this, but they're covering up something.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:23:03 Reply

At 4/22/13 09:18 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 4/22/13 07:07 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:

I deny that gas chambers were used, and death tolls were greatly exaggerated, not everything else that happened. I won't bother derailing this thread, though. This guy is totally unrelated to the chechens. Why would he send a poison letter? He was clearly someone who was wanted out of the way.
I remember asking you to provide some proofs which you never did, this could be your latest opportunity to do so in order to back up what you said that time.

Watch this if you actually are interested in proof. I won't go into it any further and shit up this thread.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:37:49 Reply

At 4/22/13 10:18 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's some video from the scene. They're trying to give up and saying they're innocent, but the cops keep shooting. Of course the cops will be out to kill someone suspected of a crime such as this. There's also this article, which explains how the photo of the guy with both legs blown off seems impossible. This same article was posted on other sites, but those sites have since gone offline. This seems like there'd be nothing for the government to gain from this, but they're covering up something.

Wow, just wow. The fact that this clown thinks that those legs that were blown off were staged is absolutely garbage to say the least, never mind the source is highly questionable at best, and utter shit at worst. {leaning towards the latter} I don't know where you get all this from, but conspiracy theorist nutjobs are not exactly the best place for truthful news, especially since they weren't even there firsthand to begin with.

Next thing you're going to tell me is that the arrest was illegal because the suspect was not read his Miranda rights, even though he was unconscious up until now.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:38:46 Reply

It's true. I was a paid actor and I can confirm that this was all staged. I can't believe you all fell for it.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:41:47 Reply

I fucking hate conspiracy websites. Here I am, trying to figure out what the fuck the deal is behind that naked guy being taken into custody, and all I can get is the actual video with nothing else of substance


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:44:03 Reply

At 4/22/13 10:37 PM, orangebomb wrote:
At 4/22/13 10:18 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's some video from the scene. They're trying to give up and saying they're innocent, but the cops keep shooting. Of course the cops will be out to kill someone suspected of a crime such as this. There's also this article, which explains how the photo of the guy with both legs blown off seems impossible. This same article was posted on other sites, but those sites have since gone offline. This seems like there'd be nothing for the government to gain from this, but they're covering up something.

do you really believe everything conspiracy you come across?

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 22:57:04 Reply

At 4/22/13 10:48 PM, Trillionaire wrote: He left a bag in a cab. The cabbie thought it was a bomb, alerted the cops.

Cops made him strip, arrested him nude.

He was actually stripped by 4 robots via EOD, which makes this kinda sillier.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 23:00:55 Reply

Moral of the story: Around muslims, never relax. They could be model citizens one second, suicide bombers the next.

Bye bye, any sort of goodwill between muslims and America made since 9/11!

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 23:04:12 Reply

At 4/22/13 10:23 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:
Watch this if you actually are interested in proof. I won't go into it any further and shit up this thread.

Cole based a portion of his from Leuhter acid test which are flawed. What you also need to know that Holocaust wasn't soley gassing the victims even though it is the most well-known method, there are several more that varies as well.

If you have issue with wikipedia, just scroll down for the citations.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 23:08:59 Reply

At 4/22/13 10:44 PM, 372 wrote:

do you really believe everything conspiracy you come across?

To be fair, I used to believe in the fake moon landing theory and still have some beliefs in the racist cereal industry that my friend came up with and there are good points on that. Ever notice how they have chocolate cereals and fruity cereals but yet...no vanilla cereal (frosted ones don't count).

In other words, the cereal industries are racist and homophobic.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-23 00:14:19 Reply

Russia told us that he was a Terrorist, but for some reason the American Government still allowed him to come back to our Country. Someone needs to be held accountable and lose their job. Whether that be an FBI agents or a Politicians, or possibly both.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-23 00:25:37 Reply

At 4/23/13 12:14 AM, TheKlown wrote: Russia told us that he was a Terrorist

No, they didn't.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-23 00:28:06 Reply

At 4/23/13 12:25 AM, Feoric wrote:
At 4/23/13 12:14 AM, TheKlown wrote: Russia told us that he was a Terrorist
No, they didn't.

Learn to google for once.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/2013/04/20/fbi-was-warned-y ears-ago-alleged-bomber-radical-shift/mprN4HgqqUcYoxlgrWPcOP /story.html


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-23 00:31:02 Reply

At 4/23/13 12:28 AM, TheKlown wrote: Learn to google for once.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/2013/04/20/fbi-was-warned-y ears-ago-alleged-bomber-radical-shift/mprN4HgqqUcYoxlgrWPcOP /story.html

"FBI was warned 2 years ago of alleged bomberâEUTMs radical shift" is not to be read as ""FBI was warned 2 years ago of alleged bomberâEUTMs ties to terrorist groups."


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-23 00:36:06 Reply

At 4/23/13 12:31 AM, Feoric wrote:
At 4/23/13 12:28 AM, TheKlown wrote: Learn to google for once.

http://www.boston.com/news/local/2013/04/20/fbi-was-warned-y ears-ago-alleged-bomber-radical-shift/mprN4HgqqUcYoxlgrWPcOP /story.html
"FBI was warned 2 years ago of alleged bomberâEUTMs radical shift" is not to be read as ""FBI was warned 2 years ago of alleged bomberâEUTMs ties to terrorist groups."

He is a Terrorist Suspect either way and Russia warned us about him. I rather we air on the side of Caution then to let someone who is a suspected Terrorist into our Country. If we weren't so stupid, and protect our borders when other Countries warn us about Terrorist Suspects, that 8 year old Boy would still be a live and his 6 year old Sister would have not had her leg blown off.


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