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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 10:35:10 Reply

At 4/20/13 10:31 AM, Lageira wrote:


Besides, Don't you mourn the dead anymore? It made me feel sick when i saw this..

They caught the kid who along with his brother were responsible for the deaths, that's why the people celebrated. Anyone would have got this, what do you think would happen?


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 10:37:04 Reply

At 4/20/13 10:31 AM, Lageira wrote: 10,000 police officers to catch one kid; the whole city stopped; people died and several got injured..

Where are you getting that number from? Sounds like you are just pulling it out of your ass.

The people who do those acts on the middle east aren't the general population.. Some of them are even forced to stand there while they do it you know?

Says who?

Besides, Don't you mourn the dead anymore? It made me feel sick when i saw this..

Can you please point out the families of the deceased for me in those pictures of people celebrating?


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 11:12:06 Reply

At 4/19/13 10:06 PM, FBIpolux wrote:
At 4/19/13 08:56 PM, Darthdenim wrote: So much for the white guy theory.
They are Russian. White enough.

They are Chechens.....


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 12:23:58 Reply

Gosh, this kid's dad even believes it was an inside job. Fucking Muslim.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 12:27:51 Reply

i love this country we finally got those assholes FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK YEEEEEAH


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 13:56:17 Reply

At 4/20/13 02:33 AM, Ceratisa wrote: I'd actually like a bit of clarification on what our government defines at terrorism.
The Fort Hood shooting was classified as "Workplace Violence" wasn't it?
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Terrorism is defined as the use of violence and intimidation in the pursuit of political aims.

There's been alot of argument about the Ford Hood shooting not being classified as terrorism.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 14:14:26 Reply

At 4/20/13 12:23 PM, Elitistinen wrote: Gosh, this kid's dad even believes it was an inside job. Fucking Muslim.

And this summed up the words "hate" and "ignorance" pretty well.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 15:31:23 Reply

At 4/20/13 12:23 PM, Elitistinen wrote: Gosh, this kid's dad even believes it was an inside job. Fucking Muslim.

Their family aside from their uncle are in a state of denial, it is understandable since some can be quite irrational when this happens. Remember when Al-Zarqawi killed Nicholas Berg in 2004? Nick's father got upset and starts making anti-Bush rants (which was defended by staunch leftists who would have criticized him had the president been a democrat but that's another story for another day, not to mention partisanships are generally ugly). It's a understandable reaction and besides, the kid's uncle is realistic of what went on and even call his nephews a disgrace.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 17:21:09 Reply

At 4/20/13 03:31 PM, Idiot-Finder wrote:
At 4/20/13 12:23 PM, Elitistinen wrote: Gosh, this kid's dad even believes it was an inside job. Fucking Muslim.
Their family aside from their uncle are in a state of denial, it is understandable since some can be quite irrational when this happens. Remember when Al-Zarqawi killed Nicholas Berg in 2004? Nick's father got upset and starts making anti-Bush rants (which was defended by staunch leftists who would have criticized him had the president been a democrat but that's another story for another day, not to mention partisanships are generally ugly). It's a understandable reaction and besides, the kid's uncle is realistic of what went on and even call his nephews a disgrace.

The Cousin of the kids also said the older Brother he wasn't shocked at all for being part of this plot. He said the oldest brother has a history of Violence especially on his girlfriend. I've been also hearing that Russia warned us about the older brother and that the American government ignored there warnings. I do not know how truthful that is.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 18:06:25 Reply

At 4/20/13 05:21 PM, TheKlown wrote: I've been also hearing that Russia warned us about the older brother and that the American government ignored there warnings. I do not know how truthful that is.

He was interviewed by the FBI per a request from Russia, you're right about that. However, after an investigation was conducted, they couldn't find any ties to extremist organizations. So no, the government did not ignore the 'warnings' if you want to call it that, nor did this involve the executive branch at the time for future reference.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 19:34:27 Reply

At 4/20/13 06:25 PM, Trillionaire wrote: Although we haven't been given the information: It's possible that Russia observed him meeting someone that he had been talking to through encrypted emails or a p2p network online. These are the sorts of situations which Law Enforcement would need a more advanced CISPA bill enacted for them to gain better access to things in that "maybe international terrorism" domain.

If intelligence agencies get wind that there is reasonable suspicion that you are having contact with terrorist groups or organizations which have ties to them, then the PATRIOT Act grants them ability to wiretap you and obtain all of your phone/email/internet history. CISPA has absolutely nothing to do with that, it has to do with piracy. Google already hands over private data to the government, for example.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-20 21:42:33 Reply

Once the information is obtained from the piece of filth, and even if he won't talk, he deserves a slow, agonizing death so he
can feel the pain he has caused to countless others. People who do this sort of intolerable thing need to be made an example of.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 02:52:35 Reply

At 4/21/13 01:41 AM, Sequenced wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-6bPi2G1U

yeah...

My god, what an annoying douche-bag, I'm 100% certain he likes to wrap himself in the flag as shield for his rants.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 10:19:45 Reply

At 4/21/13 02:52 AM, Ceratisa wrote:
At 4/21/13 01:41 AM, Sequenced wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-6bPi2G1U

yeah...
My god, what an annoying douche-bag, I'm 100% certain he likes to wrap himself in the flag as shield for his rants.

The comments are worse, they made me lose hope for humanity for few seconds until I realize that they're not really a part of humanity, just fit in a certain technicality.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 13:34:09 Reply

At 4/21/13 02:52 AM, Ceratisa wrote:
At 4/21/13 01:41 AM, Sequenced wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-6bPi2G1U

yeah...
My god, what an annoying douche-bag, I'm 100% certain he likes to wrap himself in the flag as shield for his rants.

not really. he's just repeating what the aunt and his father said during the interviews. look it up.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 14:48:27 Reply

At 4/21/13 01:34 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 4/21/13 02:52 AM, Ceratisa wrote:
At 4/21/13 01:41 AM, Sequenced wrote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ-6bPi2G1U

yeah...
My god, what an annoying douche-bag, I'm 100% certain he likes to wrap himself in the flag as shield for his rants.
not really. he's just repeating what the aunt and his father said during the interviews. look it up.

No he isn't he's using their comments (certainly ones with no bias I'm sure) to rant about the government.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 15:38:22 Reply

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2013/04/20/know-boston-bomber s/

The Mother seems like she pushed Hatred onto her Sons and help create these Monsters. Also, it seems like the Uncle who stood up for the Victims who lost their lives doesn't really know as much as he thinks about his Brother. Supposedly his Brother and his Wife are Political Activists that are Extremist Muslims. If the Uncle was telling the truth that he doesn't deal with that part of the Family and hasn't seen them since 2005 Christmas time, then I guess he did the right thing from keeping his Family away from those weirdos.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 16:32:36 Reply

At 4/21/13 02:27 PM, FBIpolux wrote:

Please don't watch that kind of crap on Youtube, for your own sake.

okay. here is RT talking about it RT

with the mother.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 16:44:52 Reply

At 4/21/13 04:38 PM, FBIpolux wrote:

That shows pretty well what confidence people all over the world have in the US government, secret services, media and CIA.

we need new people in the government... not old folks who don't care what the people think...


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 17:22:04 Reply

At 4/21/13 04:44 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 4/21/13 04:38 PM, FBIpolux wrote:

That shows pretty well what confidence people all over the world have in the US government, secret services, media and CIA.
we need new people in the government... not old folks who don't care what the people think...

You're right. We should hold elections every few years to keep the people who are working out and filter out the bad. Also we should show up and vote when the time comes so that the stagnation isn't our own damn fault.

That's the extent of my political humor here.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 18:11:43 Reply

At 4/21/13 05:59 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: So the person who allegedly sent a letter with ricin to Obama says that he's innocent and a lot of people would like him dead because he tried to expose an illegal organ-harvesting operation.

Is that the same guy who also sent a ricin laced letter to Republican Senator? LOL, these cowards doing these crimes must be big ALEX JONES fans and won't even admit their involvement.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 19:22:44 Reply

At 4/21/13 04:44 PM, Sequenced wrote:
At 4/21/13 04:38 PM, FBIpolux wrote:

That shows pretty well what confidence people all over the world have in the US government, secret services, media and CIA.
we need new people in the government... not old folks who don't care what the people think...

Why does a mother's stumbling opinion matter for anything?

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 19:35:30 Reply

So, does this mean that Westboro Batpist Church's god is a duo of foreign terrorists?

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 19:41:05 Reply

At 4/21/13 07:22 PM, Ceratisa wrote: Why does a mother's stumbling opinion matter for anything?

It matters because it may provide additional evidence for a timeline. There was an article written by a girl on tumblr who wrote about her relationship with the family. She at some point started to have 'radical' opinions and would say things which made the girl feel uncomfortable, and she didn't do this before a certain point.

"During this facial session she started quoting a conspiracy theory, telling me that she thought 9-11 was purposefully created by the American government to make America hate Muslims. "ItâEUTMs real," she said, "My son knows all about it. You can read on the internet." I have to say I felt kind of scared and vulnerable when she said this, as I am distinctly American, and was lying practically naked in her living room."

The part underlined seems to indicate that it was the oldest son, Tamerlan, who was saying these things first, not the mother. So let's stop with the tabloid articles about that.

At 4/20/13 07:52 PM, Trillionaire wrote: It doesn't provide LE with the power to build a working model of the social dynamics surrounding the life of possible suspects. In order to trace, triangulate, and analyze certain types of networks (Tor, some p2p, and encryption webs) you need to be able to archive everything and dedicate processor farms to decoding anonymity. Wiretaps don't work if he's using a friend's laptop to send encrypted emails to a cell leader.

Yes it does. The NSA does exactly what you're talking about here, all the time.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 22:08:52 Reply

At 4/21/13 09:02 PM, Trillionaire wrote: Not yet. We're talking about the same program which, to my little knowledge, is incomplete. What the NSA does right now is archive most data, file items by word value and relevence, organize relationships between known groups, track user identities, and study the internet use of specific individuals after the fact. They've been developing the scaffolding for a new system which is being built in on the east coast to allow them to store 100% of the communications, track more meaningful relations, study the behavior of the entire population in detail, and anticipate the decisions groups are likely to make. Kinda like Minority Report using stats analysis.

Okay, that's actually really interesting and I'd appreciate it if you could give me a link about this so I can read about it. But, the fact that they have been doing this and are developing a new architecture to sort though all of this information right now doesn't back up your claim that the Patriot Act doesn't allow them to "...build a working model of the social dynamics surrounding the life of possible suspects." Isn't this literally what the NSA and other agencies have been doing, and are currently doing right now? I thought this was the primary goal of the Utah Data Center. I would think it wouldn't be built if there were legality concerns. Which, honestly, haven't been too much of an issue due to emergency powers post 9/11.


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-21 22:29:36 Reply

Holy shit this thing was intense.

I saw the news unfold during a vacation so I've been out of commission for a while, but damn when they released that video of the kid fighting back, it kinda just showed the kind of cajones those chechens carry. Now granted the bastard is terrorist (or criminal or whatever the term you want to use for a murderer) scum but I have slight sympathy for him.

The fact that this Dzhokar is only 19 and literally everyone save for the uncle who personally knew him has said kind words about him and expressed disbelief makes me believe Tamerlan brainwashed him.

For starters the fact the kid gave himself up is the biggest indication, granted he probably ran through all his ammunition first before (and btw does anyone now what type of firearm he was using?) rather than go out in a literal blaze (assuming he was strapped with explosives) shows a type of fear/self-preservation normally absent from such Jihadists.

Now granted these dudes were chechens, who tend to be more Muhj, than suicide bombers, so maybe they just wanted to bring war to America but rather not face the repercussions, so I guess what I'm saying is, maybe they were used more as mercenaries, and are being handled by AQ or one of their offshoots. Which personally I'm more willing to believe given the Tamerlan's trip to Russia and the fact that he must of done something to get the Russkies attention, and normally that'd have to involve a trip to his homeland and some shady dealings with some shady characters, unless they just noticed he was chechen and wanted to simply harass him, which probably was not the case.

And then the guy just told his kid brother about it and he joined up or the older brother just had this idea alone, and the were just lone wolves.

Though regardless of the scenario, I'm sure Dzhokar was merely a follower. I mean if you have friends with older brothers the wider the age gap, the greater the respect is. I mean I know firsthand, my younger brother and I only share a year between us. While one of my good friend's brother is older than him by 5 years, and the respect the kid has him for him is nearly reverent. Not a bad word about the man will ever be uttered from this kid, hell he's always bragging about his accomplishments, and rarely talks about the guy's pitfalls.

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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 01:37:18 Reply

Mike Dice and Glen Beck are pointing fingers at our FBI, saying our OWN FBI is crooked... I won't agree with this until they show me proof that our FBI are that shady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeB89O4hI7g


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Response to Explosions in Boston Marathon 2013-04-22 01:42:39 Reply

At 4/22/13 01:37 AM, TheKlown wrote: Mike Dice and Glen Beck are pointing fingers at our FBI, saying our OWN FBI is crooked... I won't agree with this until they show me proof that our FBI are that shady.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeB89O4hI7g

IS dice a new guy? I've heard of Glen no one mentions savage.