At 4/3/13 03:07 PM, TomFulp wrote:
In the short term I want to change the judgment requirements so things can exit out with less votes. That would be especially helpful RIGHT NOW.
I agree with this. Movies and games have two different attention draws. Games have more views, movies do not. Sadly. I'm an animator, not a game designer.
Having the levels represent the users on the forums was always good motivation to vote, but it was a turnoff to a lot of people who wanted other ways to express themselves on the site. Of course that change didn't result in a massive improvement in forum activity, but forums in general have been in decline across the entire web so it has been an uphill battle there.
Since it didn't change activity, it probably wouldn't hurt to go back, but... since it was already introduced. It would probably be harder to get rid of. Though, personally, I'd favor it.
There is more stuff being blammed than what people see - the Blam / Save stats on the Classic Portal and Obits have been broken for a long time now and need to be fixed. We also need to make sure that when a moderator takes action on a submission, it retroactively removes / adds BP points for the people who previously voted on it. Despite some great people who use it properly, the BP system has failed - anyone who used to listen to our broadcasts would know how depressed I got at the sheer amount of shovelware that passed judgment because people assumed it would be saved and wanted the points. Instead of fixing the voting system, we added moderators and that DID fix the shovelware problem but it also hurt the incentive to vote. It would be nice if the mod activity rewarded / punished the users who already chipped in.
I'd like to think that a system where someone is overwhelming saving or blamming (voting habits) could send a message to the portal mods and have them watch and punish those who save or blam FAR more than the other may be good. Of course, send them a warning first.
And those who attempt to save shovelware games, perhaps a mod could flag it and delete it, resulting in the loss of three save points? just general ideas for the portal mods. Probably just rambling.
I want the voting system to log 2 XP for every vote, vs requiring you to vote five times before you deposit. This will let more passive users gradually gain XP and will also allow us to have Double XP Weekends without REQUIRING you to vote on 10 things to log your XP - you would just have the opportunity to vote twice as many times and gain points.
Sounds like need to add some extra levels. We already got a bunch who maxed out.
We'd like to have more spaces that show who is leveling up and gaining points on a given day, including something popped lower on the front page. Making that interesting will take some doing but it's on the list.
I do like the sound of that. Maybe something in the portals. Show the level of the author too. Pop it into the reviewer's posts too. Make it mean something to level. We need to be identified by our levels.
There are also thoughts on user page updates that allow more customization, where someone who cares about their stats can make them more prominent / detailed and someone who doesn't care can hide them. We have a big divide on NG between what the viewers want and what the contributors want; that has always been a tricky balancing act.
I always liked to think of it as contributor vs viewer. Contributors are already showcased, the viewer is the one who needs the guns. They need to be impressed.
As a contributor, I like to think that it's my fists vs their weapons. And lately, it's been too easy.