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Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 04:58 PM Reply

Yeah yeah slight hyperbole title

But basically an airline has finally had the balls to do a pay-what-you-weigh ticket system. Lookit!

"Proclaiming the "pay only for what you weigh" scheme, the company's website says: "Booking a flight with us is as easy as inputting your approximate weight into our online booking engine (don't worry, we will weigh you again at the airport) - you then can prepay your 'guesstimate', guaranteeing you that much weight is allocated to you for that flight âEU¦ with Samoa Air, you are the master of how much (or little!) your air ticket will cost."

Really I think it's a good step. Flying is so expensive, and part of it must be paying for really fat people. It is tragically unfair, though, but so is any system when you get in the knitty-gritty.

Thoughts?

besides all of you not affording to fly for a while

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:00 PM Reply

That's gonna piss a lot of people off. Of course, it could also give them incentive to lose weight.

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:01 PM Reply

That doesn't make sense. You should only pay more if you take up more than one seat...
In which case "lol"

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:03 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 05:01 PM, 372 wrote: That doesn't make sense. You should only pay more if you take up more than one seat...
In which case "lol"

That is an issue of passenger comfort, but the main problem is the cost of fuel per kg. Ever gone a few grams over with your luggage and had to pay a fine?


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:07 PM Reply

They already do this with small aircraft flights, although it's more a case of flat-out not letting people on said aircraft if they weigh too much.

I remember getting a helicopter-ride through the Grand Canyon, and the poor girl at the desk for it had to ask everyone to stand on a "doormat" (which obviously had a weighing scale under it) one by one, in what must've been - for her at least - a very awkward manner of trying to conceal the fact that all the fat fucks were being screened out. It was hilarious.

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:14 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 04:58 PM, Otto wrote: Thoughts?

Thoughts are this is going to seriously stir the pot. Seeing fat people shouting and raving at airports is probably going to become a less rare occasion now, and I have mixed feelings about that...
It could give fat people incentive to lose weight, at least, if there isn't enough already.

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:14 PM Reply

this is just another blatant attack from the mainstream on obesity.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:15 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 05:14 PM, HighWay wrote: this is just another blatant attack from the mainstream on obesity.

The mainstream? It's a Samoan airline, do you want something more niche?


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:18 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 05:15 PM, Otto wrote:
At 4/2/13 05:14 PM, HighWay wrote: this is just another blatant attack from the mainstream on obesity.
The mainstream? It's a Samoan airline, do you want something more niche?

Not that I agree with HighWay, but it could always catch on. Now that somebody, somewhere has bravely crossed the line, maybe other airlines will follow suit.
Also Highway, I wouldn't say it was an intentional attack on the chubbier folk. If anything it's just making travel more fair for the people who don't use more airplane fuel..

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:40 PM Reply

i think they should also charge you more based on your class/income level
so they can be paid better if they're more liable to be hijacked because someone important is flying


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 05:45 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 05:40 PM, SwankyVagrant wrote: i think they should also charge you more based on your class/income level
so they can be paid better if they're more liable to be hijacked because someone important is flying

You can fly first class if you're a swanky mofo. Practically the same thing, although it's not mandatory..

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 06:05 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 05:45 PM, Rumsworth wrote:
You can fly first class if you're a swanky mofo. Practically the same thing, although it's not mandatory..

i know
you need to pay more even if you're not flying first class


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 06:07 PM Reply

Good thing I'm not obese.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 06:08 PM Reply

You know, if I actually saw a fat person flying, I'd be wondering how they can stay afloat. There'd be way too many UFO's (Unidentified Fat Object) for planes to get off the ground.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 06:11 PM Reply

Of course I think its ridiculous.

Should taxis start charging by the weight too? Trains, buses? Where does it end. Seriously, blaming fat people for high costing flights is just an easy solution. Do you know how much profit those airlines make? Thats the problem.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 06:17 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 06:11 PM, Gagsy wrote: Of course I think its ridiculous.

Should taxis start charging by the weight too? Trains, buses? Where does it end. Seriously, blaming fat people for high costing flights is just an easy solution. Do you know how much profit those airlines make? Thats the problem.

I've heard crazy things about the expenses of owning an airline. Mad things like how, unlike buses, planes don't really have places to chill because they're used constantly to save money.

Still they have other dirty tricks.

It's a very tricky question. I love watching Border Patrol and stuff and every other episode someone flips out over the weight limit of their bag - all these tiny old ladies outraged at some gigantic business man strolling through. Of course in the end it does boil down to people > luggage, but it's definitely interesting an airline has gone and done it.

On the plus side parents are happy for their cheap child tickets.p

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 07:56 PM Reply

FINALLY! an excuse for obesity in America to go DOWN!


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 07:57 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 05:39 PM, ClockworkSpace wrote: And it is in no way unwarranted. Fat people deserve the abuse they get, in fact they deserve to get more.

This kind of thinking is why I used to get suspended a lot in school.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 08:02 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 07:57 PM, Narcissy wrote:
At 4/2/13 05:39 PM, ClockworkSpace wrote: And it is in no way unwarranted. Fat people deserve the abuse they get, in fact they deserve to get more.
This kind of thinking is why I used to get suspended a lot in school.

because you punished fat people?


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 08:05 PM Reply

So, naturally tall people, males (generally) cripples in wheelchairs pay more?

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 08:10 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 06:17 PM, Otto wrote:
I've heard crazy things about the expenses of owning an airline. Mad things like how, unlike buses, planes don't really have places to chill because they're used constantly to save money.

Still they have other dirty tricks.

To keep the bosses pockets lined yeah.

It's a very tricky question. I love watching Border Patrol and stuff and every other episode someone flips out over the weight limit of their bag - all these tiny old ladies outraged at some gigantic business man strolling through. Of course in the end it does boil down to people > luggage, but it's definitely interesting an airline has gone and done it.

On the plus side parents are happy for their cheap child tickets.p

I just can't help but feel us fatties are once again made the scapegoats. Planes are fucking heavy on their own, probably the reason they're in constant use because flying them to and from a 'place to chill' is just too costly so they keep them going from job to job. Guessing. The issue is fuel being so expensive and what to do about that, it shouldn't be about anything else. And I don't find it interesting that a company has started doing this, just depressing.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 08:34 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 07:56 PM, mechadude32 wrote: FINALLY! an excuse for obesity in America to go DOWN!

Not so fast. Samoa Air isn't based in America. Hell, they don't even serve any destination in America. Also, it looks like they generally fly really small planes.

I can't say that this is a totally unfair policy, but we'll see much later on if other, much larger carriers decide to adopt it themselves.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 08:55 PM Reply

Bottom line is that the heavier among us will disagree and the skinnier will agree. Obviously most of us do care about other factors like fairness, feelings and the policy's effects on people's diet.. BUT most of that is outweighed by how much heavier or lighter our wallets are getting.

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:00 PM Reply

I would support anything that severely disadvantages the morbidly obese.


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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:09 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 09:00 PM, Timmy wrote: I would support anything that severely disadvantages the morbidly obese.

What obesity related trauma did you suffer when you were just a little squirt, champ?

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:22 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 09:00 PM, Timmy wrote: I would support anything that severely disadvantages the morbidly obese.

And for cripples and tall people?

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:30 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 09:22 PM, Ceratisa wrote:
At 4/2/13 09:00 PM, Timmy wrote: I would support anything that severely disadvantages the morbidly obese.
And for cripples and tall people?

I believe the cripples already pay more, right?? Does their chair count as luggage?

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:39 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 08:05 PM, Ceratisa wrote: So, naturally tall people, males (generally)

Doubt that an extra fee applies unless you're very far over the limit (obese).

cripples in wheelchairs pay more?

Cripples can watch what they eat. Hell, if I was in a wheelchair I'd pay more attention to avoid being crippled AND fat.

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:52 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 09:39 PM, Entice wrote:
At 4/2/13 08:05 PM, Ceratisa wrote: So, naturally tall people, males (generally)
Doubt that an extra fee applies unless you're very far over the limit (obese).

cripples in wheelchairs pay more?
Cripples can watch what they eat. Hell, if I was in a wheelchair I'd pay more attention to avoid being crippled AND fat.

The wheelchair would be weighed or you'd pull the person off it in a humiliating fashion. What if it is a motored wheelchair? Those can weight alot Entice.

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Response to Fat people flying! Apr. 2nd, 2013 @ 09:55 PM Reply

At 4/2/13 09:52 PM, Ceratisa wrote: The wheelchair would be weighed or you'd pull the person off it in a humiliating fashion. What if it is a motored wheelchair? Those can weight alot Entice.

Okay, yeah there's other factors to consider, but I still think that making obese people specifically pay extra is a good idea.