At 4/4/13 08:18 PM, Rumsworth wrote:
Rising it to get money AND to get people to quit doesn't make sense. If people quit, they won't be making the money.
Yes it does. It cost of money to treat health problems causes by smoking, so they raise the tax to cover that and to make people quit.
They know that it's gotten to the point where people WILL always smoke. There is no chance that even if they were to ban it, people would abide by that law. As you said, creating a cigarette black market type dealio.
Yeah, thats if you banned it instantly. Weening the whole public off of it already started a long time ago, in the past almost all adults smoked it.
So with that in mind, they don't want you to quit, they want your money - simultaneously making it seem like they want you to quit with the warnings and the price rise and the public bans.
They want both
I'm not sure about the expenses of cigarettes being legal so you may be right, but I actually think the money brought in outweighs the money spent. They do make a whole load of cash.
they dont make anywhere near enough to counteract the spending
At 4/5/13 03:27 AM, Earfetish wrote:
I dare you to research that for five minutes and I very much doubt you'll stick to the same conclusion. Total societal myth. Everyone gains from smokers - they don't claim their pensions and they die early so they don't require expensive late-life treatment. They bring in Ã'Â£17bn yearly (in the UK) from tax and duty alone while they 'cost' the NHS Ã'Â£7bn, leaving Ã'Â£10bn profit.
dozens of studies to look at if you don't believe me
Im not sure if you meant to strawman me or not but I think youre forgetting the lost work days too, that loss alone far outweighs what the government makes in tobacco tax. I also found this reply from the department of health in my country.
As it says, smoking causes "84 per cent of deaths from lung cancer and 83 per cent of deaths from chronic obstructive lung disease, including bronchitis.". Thats a tonne of lost work and income which could have been taxed and like I said it probably outweighs gained tax massively.