At 3/2/13 05:29 PM, Wolfwax wrote:
Cannabis has never:
- Killed a person by smoking.
- Caused someone to develop schizophrenia by smoking.
- Been given a f*****g break.
I'm not going to argue these points, because to a certain extent they are true, but I will say that you shouldn't censor your words here, not a big deal really, but I'd rather have it spelled out.
(Just for the record, smoking it does virtually jack shit, just makes you feel good for a moment or sometimes evasive and uneasy. The only notable long term effect of smoking is a calmed disposition with a calm and a relaxed perception of life. I'm talking about cannabis as a plant, not the drug it becomes upon high temperatures)
Well, that's just it, most cannabis nowadays is pretty much used for smoking, considering that it's illegal to possess and manufacture with, and people just love to smoke that shit like it's going out of style for whatever reason. They did it in the '20s in jazz clubs in New Orleans, in the '50s and '60s with beatniks and hippies respectively, and by angry rebellious teens and disillusioned people.
Now, I would be remiss to say that it doesn't have medical use, because it's used for managing the nasty side effects of chemo/radiation treatments of cancer, as well as a way of dealing with crippling pain and even general nausea, which is what you see in medical marijuana shops in California and in certain quantities in Washington and Colorado.
It might seem a very strange thing to think about and comprehend, but when you asses the situation with a clear and level head, fully ready to accept the truly EVIL nature of this planet, it's quite a sensible conclusion to draw to: Cannabis is a wonder plant that could solve a lot of the world's problems overnight. Sounds ridiculous, I know, almost
This is all subjective here, and I do detect a high level of idealism here, which for whatever reason is frowned upon in debate. While we can't necessarily deny the uses and benefits of cannabis, it's still not the ultimate cure-all for all of our problems, but it does provide a decent dent into them if everything goes right.
"Surely if it actually cured cancer, it would be all over the news!!"
The oil, wood and pharmaceutical industries are all massive worldwide markets that would completely evaporate if cannabis was legalised for industrial use (call it hemp). It is the best interest of these huge and unfathomably wealthy companies to keep cannabis illegal, with a tarnished reputation as a criminalistic icon.
Not entirely. The only real cure for cancer is chemo and radiation which kill the cancer cells, and removal or alteration of certain organs if necessary. As I said, what pot does is encourage a certain gland in the brain telling the body to eat, even if they have eaten just before, and also acts as a muscle relaxant to ease the pain.
I'm not a doctor, so I can't get into any serious specifics about how it works and all that, but that's pretty common knowledge.
"People who smoke end up becoming addicts and substance abusers!"
This is possible, but no more or less possible than becoming addicted to alcohol, coffee, Mcdonald's or painkillers. Cannabis smoke is actually the only substance mentioned above that isn't addictive or linked to negative long term health problems. If you have an addictive personality, smoking cannabis would be the healthiest 'addiction'.
Well, cannabis is a drug, and like all drugs, it can be addicted with negative consequences with abuse and long-term usage, and are pretty hard to quit cold turkey. The difference is that you can't die by addiction of marijuana alone, and where most marijuana deaths happen is that they were laced with other things, such as hard drugs or other materials.
The only link with schizophrenia smoking cannabis has is that people who already have the disease have certain symptoms intensified, however, they have been known to continue smoking since it surpresses other symptoms, such as anxiety and depression.
I'm not going to argue with this, mostly because it's way outside my realm, so I'll take your word for it for now.
Not sure if this helps, but I don't actually smoke at all, so I'm not biased to it as a drug, really.
It actually helps a lot, because it seems like most people who are in favor of pot are either angry hipster kids who hate conservative Republican ideals, or regular stoners who want to see it legalized so that can buy it and smoke it all day. Maybe if those people can understand the other benefits of hemp, then more people can embrace the ideal of legalizing pot, and/or be able to tolerate it much more at the least.
I just want people to know where to find truth; it is most definitely not distributed by the monolithic mass media of this giant stupid rock.
The truth is that the politicians always have found ways to make it illegal in the past because it was associated with delinquents and minorities, which they looked down upon to say the least. What the media does, especially after Reagan, was to reenforce that belief in that marijuana is bad in general, and loves to use false-flag and highly inaccurate PSA's to spread the message. Only recently is where this mentality is beginning to crack from the media and the people, but we have a good long while before we fully embrace cannabis as a whole.