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Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 16:13:34 Reply

Hello there - I made an art thread a long time ago but I seem to have lost it.
Brief introduction - I'm a studio art major in my senior year of undergraduate study. I like dead and cute things, either separately or simultaneously.
Critique, both positive and negative, is very welcome. I crave feedback almost as much as Chinese food.

My latest piece:

http://art.ngfiles.com/images/201/zhonn_an-apple-a-day.jpg

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 16:21:33 Reply

http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1312151

Is this it?

I hate Chinese food, but cute dead things are cool too!
Nice art, and nice to meet you!


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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 16:39:18 Reply

Figures have no anatomy, there's no life or convincing-ness to them, everything is super simplified from the colors to the figures to the backgrounds and its not simplified in a way that is visually pleasing. As for this one in particular as a comic the framing and spacing is nonsensical. Some are boxes and some are just random shapes? Why? The text is horrendous too from the bubble itself to the way you used like 60% of the allotted space on a terrible font and a zombie head, why is that there? Comics exist to tell a story and I have no idea what is going on here.

What school do you go to again?


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Illustration thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1229930
Animation thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1332069

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 16:50:47 Reply

At 2/27/13 04:39 PM, Template88 wrote: Figures have no anatomy, there's no life or convincing-ness to them, everything is super simplified from the colors to the figures to the backgrounds and its not simplified in a way that is visually pleasing. As for this one in particular as a comic the framing and spacing is nonsensical. Some are boxes and some are just random shapes? Why? The text is horrendous too from the bubble itself to the way you used like 60% of the allotted space on a terrible font and a zombie head, why is that there? Comics exist to tell a story and I have no idea what is going on here.

What school do you go to again?

The anatomy of the figures is purposely exaggerated - longer legs, shorter torso, larger head. The composition of the frames provides visual direction for the progression of the viewer's eyes; I don't believe in the necessity of uniform and static frames, I feel that it creates an atmosphere that is only very selectively appropriate. Can you explain why you think the spacing and shape of my frames are nonsensical?
What do you mean by "life or convincing-ness" to the figures? What specifically do they lack?

I agree with you on the text in the middle frame, it's rather awful. The entire bubble didn't really achieve the intention of a newsflash.

Your thoughts are appreciated but you don't really explain yourself most of the time which is what I'm really after here.

I attend SUNY Oswego.

@ JamSession - oh, yes, it is. It's been forever since I've forumed and I somehow forgot that I can look at my previous posts. Thanks for that, but I don't think we can be friends until you quit that nonsense about not liking Chinese food.


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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 16:57:24 Reply

You misunderstand, there is no anatomy to be had here. Your figures are made using symbolism in entirety. The reason why your figures have no lifelike qualities to them isnt because of that however, but because you seem to have little to no gesture drawing experience. You need to observe how human being actually convey ideas with their bodies. I'm sorry but you have failed entirely to direct my eyes anywhere with your comic frames, they just appear to be shaped randomly and without purpose and it distracts and annoys me instead of just being a frame for your story. They should be invisible, I should not even notice them.

I will clarify more if you have questions.


Thoughts in chaos...
Illustration thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1229930
Animation thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1332069

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 17:07:40 Reply

At 2/27/13 04:57 PM, Template88 wrote: I will clarify more if you have questions.

For someone who barely submits any art you sure know how to criticize someone in the most insulting way possible.

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 17:11:15 Reply

At 2/27/13 05:07 PM, Lucky wrote:
At 2/27/13 04:57 PM, Template88 wrote: I will clarify more if you have questions.
For someone who barely submits any art you sure know how to criticize someone in the most insulting way possible.

I dont see how the amount of art I submit is related to the truth of my criticism.
I would even submit that what you said makes no sense at all from any perspective in relation to anything thus far discussed.

Also I submit plenty of art in my art thread, not that that is worth mentioning in this thread.


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Illustration thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1229930
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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-27 18:44:22 Reply

At 2/27/13 04:13 PM, Zhonn wrote: My latest piece:
http://art.ngfiles.com/images/201/zhonn_an-apple-a-day.jpg

First major issue I noticed is that there is no anatomical consistency between the characters. The proportions between the frames all change.

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-28 07:50:13 Reply

At 2/27/13 05:07 PM, Lucky wrote:
At 2/27/13 04:57 PM, Template88 wrote: I will clarify more if you have questions.
For someone who barely submits any art you sure know how to criticize someone in the most insulting way possible.

It is a little insulting but nonetheless still valid criticism. If I've learned anything from art school it is that what distinguishes artists from art hobbyists is that hobbyists get lost in tone and can't extract the usefulness of critique.

I've seen Template's art and think he is a good authority on criticism.

@Johnny - I was thinking that myself, but sadly my digital illustration class is intro level which means no one bothers to actually give criticism. Thanks :)


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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-02-28 22:15:54 Reply

You've got a winner's attitude.

I have many resources I can share with you that would accelerate your artistic growth, if you are interested, PM me.


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Illustration thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1229930
Animation thread: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic /1332069

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-03-12 18:28:21 Reply

Artbump

Some sketches

http://www.newgrounds.com/dump/item/de2503850b1e6b626b55109d 1484e8ae

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Response to Zhonn's art thread 2013-04-01 13:12:58 Reply

Artbump 2
"Graphic Flash" submission titled "Nondescript"
See description, comments welcome

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    Nondescript by Zhonn

    This is a piece done based on the writing of Paige Belisle for the Graphic Flash event at SUNY Oswego. It also functioned as ...

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