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Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:14 PM Reply

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I recently closed my Facebook account. It overwhelmed me that I actually carried out the action. I
had spent weeks telling myself I was going to delete it but something ALWAYS came up: events,
birthdays, shit like that. Recently, though, I realized how much I relied on Facebook, and how it took
away this personality that I gave myself in the internet. Whenever I did shit in the internet, I could be
whoever I wanted to be, rather than being afraid of being someone that people know I'm not. When
Facebook came up, I was enjoying the fact that I could talk to all my friends from other countries AND
my own, but then I noticed that anything I did in real life, any video I took, any Flash I made, any action I
did that I thought would be posted in the internet, it would slowly find itself into my Facebook, and that
made me consider more the opinions of people I already know, rather than people who may love my
work and don't even know me.

Little thoughts like these influenced my decision, and now that I finally closed my profile, I feel like exploring the internet how I used to, linking people to my works, my profiles, the excitement of starting a new. All this came from this hidden anxiety I had towards a social media that's slowly controlling our lives. Everything is at the click of a "like".

I would like to know what people's opinions on these social medias are. They have no doubt been very useful, and even let us interact with old friends we never hoped to talked to, but when does it go too far? MySpace wasn't like this. I remember having more people that I wish I knew rather than people I wish I didn't have to see in person.

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:16 PM Reply

Considering I have no means of transportation and many of my friends live too far across the country to visit, cutting myself off from social networking sites would only make me less social.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:18 PM Reply

Fuck facebook face book the fuckin worse site on the planet.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:22 PM Reply

so you deleted your facebook because you were scared your mom would find out you like tentacle porn


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:24 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:14 PM, Willanatior wrote: They have no doubt been very useful, and even let us interact with old friends we never hoped to talked to, but when does it go too far?

It never "goes too far" because it's always optional.

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:26 PM Reply

Don't be such a drama queen. I have a facebook to keep track of the group in which people on my degree course share notes and announcements in case people have missed lectures, and to talk to the people in my research group about various projects.

It doesn't magically add your parents and email them pictures of your dick. It only has access to what you give it, and if you don't have the willpower to not upload shit you don't want to be public to it, it's your own fault.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:51 PM Reply

I never understood why people would go ahead and delete their facebook account. Facebook only matters as much as you care for it to do. If you're consistently never responding to anything, it's like you never had the account anyway. And not deleting the account give you the benefit of being able to keep track of what events are going on, and what your friends are up to, not to mention lots of sites use "log in with facebook" as a new standard.

As for being too reliant on facebook to do stuff for you, there's the same argument that everything is optional and you choose exactly how much you rely on facebook on your own.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 07:57 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:22 PM, SwankyVagrant wrote: so you deleted your facebook because you were scared your mom would find out you like tentacle porn

Yes

At 2/19/13 07:24 PM, Jester wrote:
It never "goes too far" because it's always optional.

Of course, it's optional. That's why I deleted it. But as it finds more and more uses, there will be a point where it will be more necessary than optional.

At 2/19/13 07:26 PM, TheMaster wrote: Don't be such a drama queen. I have a facebook to keep track of the group in which people on my degree course share notes and announcements in case people have missed lectures, and to talk to the people in my research group about various projects.

It doesn't magically add your parents and email them pictures of your dick. It only has access to what you give it, and if you don't have the willpower to not upload shit you don't want to be public to it, it's your own fault.

Of all replies, yours is the most interesting, maybe because you missed the point, maybe because you intentionally made it insulting so I would reply... And you win, I will:

I had the thought of making a separate profile, one for just a small group of friends, some from where I live, some from other websites. And I'm still considering it. My mom already has pictures of my dick that I sent her myself, so that's not the issue at hand (but rather her hand, nyek nyek nyek). It's more of this tie that some people get with their profile. Again, not everyone applies, but when someone has a profile with like 500 "friends" on it, everything you post online, rather than being for a personal purpose, becomes to impress others. I don't know if you'll understand it better like that. It's not the paranoia of someone seeing something I don't want them to, it's more the restraint in freedom if you will, the pressure to know that someone you know in person will judge you by something you did in the internet. I'm not gonna lie and say I don't care 100% about others opinions, otherwise I wouldn't have even made this thread. It's more that the target audience changes, and you don't remember who or why you truly did what you did: a video, a flash, an illustration. There's gonna be the subconscious motive of "Oh wow people I know in real life could/will see what I did, I may as well change it a bit so they get it/don't get offended/think better about me". If you can't relate, that's awesome, and I wish I could not care as much as you.

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 08:04 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:51 PM, Havegum wrote: I never understood why people would go ahead and delete their facebook account. Facebook only matters as much as you care for it to do. If you're consistently never responding to anything, it's like you never had the account anyway. And not deleting the account give you the benefit of being able to keep track of what events are going on, and what your friends are up to, not to mention lots of sites use "log in with facebook" as a new standard.

As for being too reliant on facebook to do stuff for you, there's the same argument that everything is optional and you choose exactly how much you rely on facebook on your own.

Like I said, some people have more control over it than others. Some people are anti-social to begin with and don't have that many friends on FB. But there came a point where the first thing I'd do when I sat down on my computer was type "F" into my address bar and just fill my head with useless bullshit, wasting minutes converting into hours. I would just log in to see my messages, see who's online, but then BAM there I am sharing a picture that only 4 out of my 700 friends would get, and I would pay so much attention to it that it's ridiculous. I think it goes much further than just a matter of self control, but rather the love for that attention you could get from people who otherwise never gave a shit.

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 08:17 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 08:07 PM, The777Demon wrote:
At 2/19/13 07:57 PM, Willanatior wrote:

I think you made the right choice to delete your facebook.

I think you made the right choice to put my dick on your face

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 08:21 PM Reply

I hate when people write long fucking speeches where they over-analyze something really trivial that no one else gives a fuck about

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 08:41 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 08:21 PM, Entice wrote: I hate when people write long fucking speeches where they over-analyze something really trivial that no one else gives a fuck about

What I hate is the people that take a minute to read these long fucking speeches and take another minute to post how much they hate when people do something. Quite ironic all of this, really.

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 09:57 PM Reply

I have no friends either way.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 19th, 2013 @ 10:33 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 08:41 PM, Willanatior wrote: What I hate is the people that take a minute to read these long fucking speeches and take another minute to post how much they hate when people do something. Quite ironic all of this, really.

So you hate the fact that I read a thread and then posted my opinion about it?

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 03:10 AM Reply

yeah facebook is stealing our anonimity. I like how I can say what I want on the internet and it won't affect real life. There is true freedom on the internet and facebook intrudes on it. I prefered the days when people like me who had no life were seperate from those who did. Nowadays nobody has a life because they're always on hte phone checking facebook or twitter. It's good I don't have a facebook but even if I did then my friends list would only have true friends on it.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 04:36 AM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:14 PM, Willanatior wrote: I would like to know what people's opinions on these social medias are. They have no doubt been very useful, and even let us interact with old friends we never hoped to talked to, but when does it go too far? MySpace wasn't like this. I remember having more people that I wish I knew rather than people I wish I didn't have to see in person.

I think you summed it up well. I do still have an FB account because it's a great way to keep in touch with old friends that it wouldn't be easy to contact otherwise, but I never use it. I logged in recently and found some Happy Birthday messages that were more than a half year old. The way people assume that everyone is on FB and active on FB is kind of sickening, it's replacing social life, and people post way too much personal data there without thinking about the consequences. FB doesn't respect your privacy for shit either, which makes it all the worse. The new search feature they tried to implement (but were forced to abandon due to privacy issues, at least in the EU) were users could find links between different users is a great example. When I first signed up at FB I liked the fact that everyone was there, but it's scary how they're taking over and becoming a part of everyday life for so many people.

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 04:59 AM Reply

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 07:46 AM Reply

At 2/20/13 07:44 AM, Cherry wrote:
At 2/20/13 04:59 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: orkut is the social networking of the future . . . if you're brazilian, at least
it's all about xanga and piczo, come on

are you joking with me

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 07:50 AM Reply

Fuck Facebook and Twitter, on Youtube you see a bunch of these shitheads asking to follow them on Twitter and like their pointless status on Facebook. It is social networking sites that are making people more stupider and stupider.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 07:53 AM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:51 PM, Havegum wrote: I never understood why people would go ahead and delete their facebook account.

Because they dont want to use it obviously. If you think no one should delete their account then arent you a little bit addicted to facebook?

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 07:56 AM Reply

Facebook part of the illuminati they use you, get info from you


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 10:47 AM Reply

At 2/20/13 03:10 AM, aListers wrote: yeah facebook is stealing our anonimity. I like how I can say what I want on the internet and it won't affect real life. There is true freedom on the internet and facebook intrudes on it. I prefered the days when people like me who had no life were seperate from those who did. Nowadays nobody has a life because they're always on hte phone checking facebook or twitter. It's good I don't have a facebook but even if I did then my friends list would only have true friends on it.
At 2/20/13 04:36 AM, Cyberdevil wrote:
I think you summed it up well. I do still have an FB account because it's a great way to keep in touch with old friends that it wouldn't be easy to contact otherwise, but I never use it. I logged in recently and found some Happy Birthday messages that were more than a half year old. The way people assume that everyone is on FB and active on FB is kind of sickening, it's replacing social life, and people post way too much personal data there without thinking about the consequences. FB doesn't respect your privacy for shit either, which makes it all the worse. The new search feature they tried to implement (but were forced to abandon due to privacy issues, at least in the EU) were users could find links between different users is a great example. When I first signed up at FB I liked the fact that everyone was there, but it's scary how they're taking over and becoming a part of everyday life for so many people.

You guys got the message more than anyone else.

Sorry if it came across poorly to anyone else, I was running on low sleep.

But I'm glad someone got the message

At 2/20/13 07:56 AM, connorbleedin wrote: Facebook part of the illuminati they use you, get info from you

I really wouldn't doubt this, seeing as some people post EVERYTHING they do in there. It slowly succumbed people into thinking it's harmless.

At 2/19/13 10:33 PM, Entice wrote:
So you hate the fact that I read a thread and then posted my opinion about it?

Nawh dawg why you so dense. Can't you see how ironic it is that I post my opinion, you post you hate it, and then I post MY opinion about your opinion, and then you post you were just posting your opinion? There's ways of saying your opinion without sounding like a total dick, yaknowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Also, everyone, if you're one to post a lot on Facebook, I urge you to check out this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7pYHN9iC9I

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 11:16 AM Reply

At 2/20/13 10:47 AM, Willanatior wrote: Nawh dawg why you so dense. Can't you see how ironic it is that I post my opinion, you post you hate it, and then I post MY opinion about your opinion, and then you post you were just posting your opinion?

You're getting defensive. I was just stating an obvious fact.

There's ways of saying your opinion without sounding like a total dick, yaknowwwwwwwwwwwwwww.

Did I do something to offend you sir?

Also, everyone, if you're one to post a lot on Facebook, I urge you to check out this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7pYHN9iC9I

That's not an exaggeration at all.
It's not possible to simply be careful about what you post online?

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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 11:34 AM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:57 PM, Willanatior wrote: My mom already has pictures of my dick that I sent her myself, so that's not the issue at hand (but rather her hand, nyek nyek nyek).

Wow, bro... You're insanely awesome, respect... But... Really? Wow... This is fucking confusing.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 06:07 PM Reply

The veil of anonymity that should allow you to do whatever you want on the web without actually harming anyone.
The shy ones among us can finally act like the person they want to be without consequence, and people can freely share their opinion about anything.

Services like Facebook bring new opportunities, at the cost of having to assume yet another persona, one in the middle of who you want to be and who people expect you to be.
A platform for partial self deployment at the cost of worsening your already present multiple personality disorder.
...

Also, I recently nuked my old account and made a new one, and for some reason I've been -blocked from sending friend requests for two days- for weeks now.
Lousy buggers.

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At 2/20/13 07:53 AM, BumFodder wrote: Because they dont want to use it obviously. If you think no one should delete their account then arent you a little bit addicted to facebook?

When I don't want to use facebook, all I have to do is not visit the page at that time. And I don't have an obsession with people staying active on facebook, there's usually a gap of 4-10 days between each time I visit the page. All I'm saying with "log-in-with-facebook" becoming a new standard for a bunch of sites, why take away the convenience?

It's not like deleting your account gives you anything but the bragging right to say "Oh hi, I deleted my facebook account", whereas not deleting your account gets you easier access to various information.


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Response to Facebook: Anti-social media Feb. 20th, 2013 @ 07:53 PM Reply

At 2/19/13 07:51 PM, Havegum wrote: I never understood why people would go ahead and delete their facebook account.

Well, I can imagine some people might not feel like having information or other stuff about them litter around on the internet. It's the reason why I deleted my account on some other social network site, even though I never posted anything embarrassing or revealing, hadn't used it in years and never used it all that much to begin with.


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At 2/20/13 07:53 PM, Auz wrote: Well, I can imagine some people might not feel like having information or other stuff about them litter around on the internet.

I can understand that. And it probably requires less effort to delete an account completely, rather than painstakingly going through the settings and removing what you don't want out there, especially if that account is inactive, or you don't need it.

However, with facebook you get benefits (mentioned in earlier post), and some of those benefits are unique to facebook because so many have a profile. I guess I didn't take in account privacy as a variable. I must say though, if I put having to adjust the settings, against deleting my account, facebook still wins in my book.


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At 2/20/13 06:07 PM, Zanroth wrote: The veil of anonymity that should allow you to do whatever you want on the web without actually harming anyone.
The shy ones among us can finally act like the person they want to be without consequence, and people can freely share their opinion about anything.

Services like Facebook bring new opportunities, at the cost of having to assume yet another persona, one in the middle of who you want to be and who people expect you to be.
A platform for partial self deployment at the cost of worsening your already present multiple personality disorder.
...

You put it in the sentences I wish I would've structured. This is a very big point in it all. It's just kind of annoying it just sort of mixes the people you know that know you a certain way along with other people who know you but don't know certain things about you which can influence other social aspects or opportunities. I DID make a new Facebook account recently, but rather than adding the 200 friends from high school I never talk to and hated back then, the people I kept because "Hey sometime in the future I may wanna talk to them", and everyone else, and instead I'll just keep it as a page for people I know to view my works and keep in contact with, rather than posting what I'm doing and "HEY EVERYONE LOOK AT HOW SOCIAL I AM", that of course being an unconscious reason you choose not to believe. At least that denial was very hard to let go for me at first.

At 2/20/13 06:55 PM, Havegum wrote: When I don't want to use facebook, all I have to do is not visit the page at that time. And I don't have an obsession with people staying active on facebook, there's usually a gap of 4-10 days between each time I visit the page. All I'm saying with "log-in-with-facebook" becoming a new standard for a bunch of sites, why take away the convenience?

It's not like deleting your account gives you anything but the bragging right to say "Oh hi, I deleted my facebook account", whereas not deleting your account gets you easier access to various information.

Again, not the same for everyone. I started using Facebook around 2010 and I just added a couple of close friends I always talked to. Suddenly I started adding just everyone I met and got around 500 friends, the majority of which weren't really friends, and would just judge if they came across something they didn't understand about me (animation being one of them, most of the people I live around have a very close mind about art). It's not being ashamed of who I am, it's the fact that it gives them access to shit I don't really want to hide from anybody, would like to show to anybody, but they will make a bigger deal of it than they should because they spent 3 hours on Facebook filling their heads with useless information from other people like knowing where they were last night, what they drank, where they're going, or their pretentious little quote writing, so when they come across something NEW or WEIRD to them, they make huge deals about it.

TL;DR: It's a great tool, yes, when used in moderation, but the majority of the people don't use Facebook like you do, and add just about fucking everyone they know, mixing up groups of people and personality and blah blah the guy I quoted on top said it best.

The solution to me is: if Facebook is necessary, use it for the necessary reasons and don't spoil yourself for likes. My new profile is completely private, I intend to put little to no personal info, and anyone I meet in person can just ask for my number. (Damn this is starting to remind me of that It's Always Sunny episode)