Yeah, so I'm kind of head-over-heels in love with FLCL, to the point where I believe it's one of the highest pop cultural achievements of the past few decades, and maybe even legitimately a Great Work of Art (whatever that means). So, sorry for all the text (I could write a book about this show if I really wanted to), and maybe take whatever I say about it with a grain of salt.
Also, Sense-Offender, I think maybe this is what Oolaph is getting at:
"Best" means using a set of objective criteria to form an argument about which works achieve a higher level of quality than others. "Favorite" means using your own subjective tastes to decide which works you personally prefer over others. For example, Citizen Kane almost always ends up being the consensus critical choice for the "best" film because of its stylistic and narrative innovations, but I doubt that most of those critics would consider it their "favorite."
Colloquially people like to use both terms interchangeably (in fact you can probably see me doing it myself later on in this post), so maybe that's where the confusion comes from, but they do mean different things. I think in this case "best anime to you" is supposed to mean "favorite," but mine at least are one and the same anyway.
At 2/18/13 06:30 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:
You know, it seems that most people either adore or despise FLCL.
That's the difference between good art and great art, and why I want to bang my head against a wall when people say that The Shawshank Redemption is the best movie ever made. The best works of art will almost inevitably have jagged edges and provoke a love-it-or-hate-it reaction from people, because they take chances and defy expectations. For better or worse, they are powerful enough to demand an extreme reaction.
FLCL is so polarizing because it's utterly uncompromising. The creators made exactly the show they set out to make without watering it down to make it more palatable for a broader audience. It takes risks and does bold new things and, yes, has its fair share of flaws as a result. Which I think you can find admirable regardless of whether or not you actually like the thing.
I'll take messy and exciting over neat and boring any day. Life is messy and ambiguous, too, and I appreciate works that are honest about that.
I thought it was just okay. I mean, there were a few parts that I just didn't understand why anybody could find them entertaining, but it had some kinda neat bits as well.
There are a few points (especially in the fourth episode) where the show just totally flies off the rails and I still don't totally get what they were trying to do. But for the most part I love the show's giddy enthusiasm and willingness to experiment. It's like a Looney Tunes short or a Godard film; the creators are so fascinated and entertained by the medium that they pursue whatever they find interesting, without letting silly things like conventional storytelling techniques or logic or the laws of physics get in the way. It's a pretty liberating way to tell a story, though obviously it ends up being a little hit-or-miss.
And despite what FLCL's detractors most often like to complain about, it most certainly does tell a story. In contrast to its style, a pretty melancholy and low-key one, too. It's just told in an elliptical, roundabout, mostly visual way (which is a smart choice in a story about adolescents who have trouble articulating their feelings). I mean, take for example the image below, which pretty much encapsulates the entire central relationship dynamic of the show in a single shot (there aren't many TV shows on now that would put this much thought into shot composition, let alone 12 or 13 years ago). As a piece of filmmaking, FLCL goes far above and beyond most other TV (anime and otherwise), which tends to put most of the narrative heavy lifting on dialogue.
What ABOUT eyebrows?
Fun fact about the eyebrows: those are actually real pieces of nori seaweed that they put in a scanner and digitally inserted into the frames.
At 2/18/13 06:19 PM, Viper50 wrote:
Either FLCL or Cowboy Bebop.
Well now I know what I'm posting next in the music thread...
At 2/18/13 06:38 PM, Jackho wrote:
Most have 12 or 13. Anything over 30 is very rare and usually only when it's based on an already popular manga.
I thought 26 was the typical full series order. Could be wrong, though.