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Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 04:35 PM Reply

Recently I purchased Sonic adventure 2 on steam because it was a game I loved as a kid, but now Replaying it I just find it to be average at best with a lot of tedious parts (knuckles/rouge). Has this ever happened to you guys?


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 05:13 PM Reply

To me, the most notable example of games that haven't aged well at all are the first generation Pokemon games.

I admit that they're still playable, but the sprites look really ugly at this point, the games have a quite a number of weird glitches and there are a couple of parts that are such a drag to get through (Mt. Moon, the Rock Tunnel, Victory Road, etc.).

Even if I would want to play them just for nostalgia I think I'd rather pick up the GBA remakes.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 05:42 PM Reply

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 05:50 PM Reply

I love Sonic Adventure 2 but I have to admit that the first game aged better than the sequel did.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 06:04 PM Reply

Dragon Warrior NES. At level 15, need 3000 xp to level up, strongest enemy gives me 33 xp. This game the game for you to develop patience but at the cost of going insane

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 06:09 PM Reply

At 2/12/13 05:13 PM, Auz wrote: To me, the most notable example of games that haven't aged well at all are the first generation Pokemon games.

I still think that they're great fun to play and I like the old designs for the most part. There are a few horrible ones and a few that shouldn't have been changed as much.

At 2/12/13 05:38 PM, BigBadtheBazz wrote: Tekken 1 and 2

Tekken 1 I completely agree with. Tekken 2 I still find to be the best in the series in terms of roster and gameplay.

At 2/12/13 05:42 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: super mario 64

It stands up a lot better than most modern platformers and is more enjoyable than the DS remake.

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 06:33 PM Reply

I second Pokemon Red/Blue/Yellow. They're extremely broken and nigh-unplayable nowadays. Really, if you want to check out G1, play FireRed/LeafGreen. And fuck anyone who says the original 151 were better just because they have more realistic designs. Arguing that they're better because they're more realistic makes no fucking sense in a game about catching and training magical animals.

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 12th, 2013 @ 06:47 PM Reply

At 2/12/13 06:04 PM, omega88x wrote: Dragon Warrior NES. At level 15, need 3000 xp to level up, strongest enemy gives me 33 xp. This game the game for you to develop patience but at the cost of going insane

I believe most Rpgs do test your paitence seeing as the battles are kind of meticulous.

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 07:21 AM Reply

At 2/12/13 05:42 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: super mario 64

Disagreed with that one.

I admit that the bright polygons they used don't look as good now as they did at the time, but I reckon the game is still very good. The controls are still easy and fluent, the camera isn't that much of a bitch and even nowadays I still have fun with collecting all the stars when I go back to it.

At 2/12/13 06:09 PM, VoidForce wrote:
At 2/12/13 05:13 PM, Auz wrote: To me, the most notable example of games that haven't aged well at all are the first generation Pokemon games.
I still think that they're great fun to play and I like the old designs for the most part. There are a few horrible ones and a few that shouldn't have been changed as much.

There are number of sprite designs in the gen 1 games where it just seems like they didn't get it right. I remember Machop and a few others which just didn't match with their anime/Pokemon Stadium models.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 01:49 PM Reply

At 2/13/13 07:21 AM, Auz wrote: There are number of sprite designs in the gen 1 games where it just seems like they didn't get it right. I remember Machop and a few others which just didn't match with their anime/Pokemon Stadium models.

The sprite designs came first. You mean Pokemon Stadium/anime didn't get it right

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 02:30 PM Reply

At 2/13/13 01:49 PM, LemonCrush wrote:
At 2/13/13 07:21 AM, Auz wrote: There are number of sprite designs in the gen 1 games where it just seems like they didn't get it right. I remember Machop and a few others which just didn't match with their anime/Pokemon Stadium models.
The sprite designs came first. You mean Pokemon Stadium/anime didn't get it right

Oh I see. Well in that case they made a bunch of rather ugly models for the game and thankfully, they improved them soon after.


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At 2/13/13 05:50 AM, RightWingGamer wrote: Fallout 1. I do really like the game, but it has a whole host of problems.

To be fair most of these were always problems with the game and didn't come from aging. Plus there's plenty of mods to fix most of these. I never had a problem with the leveling, I think it's pretty forgiving especially in comparison to Fallout 2. Never had a problem with the time limit either, unless you wander around the desert you can easily get the water chip in time. There isn't much to do until then anyway.

As for the companions, I don't think they require micromanagement at all unless you're trying your hardest to keep them alive (they're all supposed to die before the end of the game) and they stop being helpful about half way through anyway.

The biggest problem with Fallout 1 was and still is NPCs blocking doorways.

At 2/12/13 05:38 PM, BigBadtheBazz wrote: Tekken 1 and 2, and maybe tomb raider.

Tekken 1 is a bit bare bones, but I think Tekken 2 is still pretty great. Tomb Raider has definitely aged like ass but we've got Anniversary now.

I always thought Sonic Adventure felt like ass, now more than ever.

Goldeneye 007, Final Fantasy, Star Fox, Metroid II.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 05:13 PM Reply

Just about every n64 game.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 05:32 PM Reply

Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997
Game boy Pokemon games (if only for the graphics)
Call of duty MW2 and all the COD games before then
Counter strike 1.6
Max Payne 1

I'll probably think of some more but here are a few off the top of my head.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 06:06 PM Reply

Deus Ex. A great game for sure, but the visuals are really bad. When you pick it up these days it really stands out.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 06:50 PM Reply

Final Fantasy 7

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 06:58 PM Reply

At 2/13/13 05:32 PM, naronic wrote: Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997

The original Doom, Half-Life, and Realms of the Haunting still look very realistic to me.

Or maybe it's just my brain filling in the missing details...

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 07:22 PM Reply

At 2/13/13 06:58 PM, Painbringer wrote:
At 2/13/13 05:32 PM, naronic wrote: Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997
The original Doom, Half-Life, and Realms of the Haunting still look very realistic to me.

Or maybe it's just my brain filling in the missing details...

Half life was made in 1998


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 08:19 PM Reply

At 2/13/13 05:32 PM, naronic wrote: Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997

Crash Bandicoot.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 08:36 PM Reply

At 2/13/13 08:19 PM, Jackho wrote:
At 2/13/13 05:32 PM, naronic wrote: Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997
Crash Bandicoot.

The cartoon aesthetic stopped it from getting to screwed over completely, but I think Spyro did much much worse.
The game is still fun though but way too easy...


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 10:17 PM Reply

Super Mario Bros 2.

Back in the day this game was beloved and I still agree that the game is a good bit of fun. But, the game just doesn't fit with any of the others and if you know the backstory behind the game it makes it stand out even more.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 13th, 2013 @ 10:25 PM Reply

Quest 64

Yes, it does suck, but when I was but a wee lad, I kind of enjoyed it. Looking back at it now, it is a bad game and did not age well. You could win the game by acquiring the barrier and using it all the time, which made you invulnerable to magic, which every enemy uses. Leveling up certain stats was annoying and tedious. I would say it is an RPG that has not aged well at all.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 14th, 2013 @ 12:38 AM Reply

Morrowind
Silent Hill
the first Turok
the Sega Genesis version of Virtua Fighter 2
Nightmare Creatures (it's still okay, but not as good as I remember it)

At 2/12/13 05:38 PM, BigBadtheBazz wrote: Tekken 1 and 2, and maybe tomb raider.

The first Tekken has definitely aged badly, but I think Tekken 3 is still the best one of them all and it's still great.

At 2/12/13 05:42 PM, GrizzlyOne wrote: super mario 64

I disagree. I think it still holds up.

At 2/13/13 05:13 PM, sweet21 wrote: Just about every n64 game.

Just because the graphics don't compare to today's games doesn't mean they haven't aged well when it comes to Gameplay. Perfect Dark, Mischief Makers, and Kirby 64 are still extremely fun to play.


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 14th, 2013 @ 04:03 AM Reply

At 2/14/13 02:48 AM, LemonCrush wrote: Every N64 game ever

Super Mario 64 still has it. :) All the games that tried to be graphically superior in addition to 3D didn't make it though.

Same thing with PSX.

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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 14th, 2013 @ 05:26 AM Reply

I can think of a few games such as Firewarrior and Dungeon Keeper 1, but the main one would be Castlevania: Simons Quest. While it wasnt even remotely good to begin with since they were trying something new with the game, its even fucking worse now.


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At 2/14/13 02:48 AM, LemonCrush wrote: Every N64 game ever

I hope you're only talking about graphics, cuz...

Mario 64
Mario Party
Mario Kart 64
Ocarina of Time
Majora's Mask
Super Smash Brothers
Perfect Dark
Mischief Makers
Yoshi's Story
Kirby 64
Rampage World Tour
Mortal Kombat Trilogy
Star Fox 64


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 14th, 2013 @ 09:13 AM Reply

At 2/14/13 02:48 AM, LemonCrush wrote: Every N64 game ever

Paper Mario aged just fine.

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At 2/13/13 08:19 PM, Jackho wrote:
At 2/13/13 05:32 PM, naronic wrote: Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997
Crash Bandicoot.

Dude that game's aged the worst...


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Response to Games that didn't age well Feb. 14th, 2013 @ 12:45 PM Reply

At 2/14/13 12:38 AM, Sense-Offender wrote: Just because the graphics don't compare to today's games doesn't mean they haven't aged well when it comes to Gameplay. Perfect Dark, Mischief Makers, and Kirby 64 are still extremely fun to play.

Perfect Dark has aged poorly though, the framerate of most N64 games make them unplayable today. The XBLA port is still pretty good though.

At 2/14/13 11:40 AM, naronic wrote:
At 2/13/13 08:19 PM, Jackho wrote:
At 2/13/13 05:32 PM, naronic wrote: Every 3D game made from 1991 to 1997
Crash Bandicoot.
Dude that game's aged the worst...

You could not even fathom how much I disagree. I boot it up just to be sure and it's still great in every aspect.


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