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Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 20:38:12 Reply

Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 20:44:48 Reply

Shit reminds me of the movie gangster squad in theatres now

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 20:45:49 Reply

that was a long read


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 20:47:25 Reply

At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.

He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 20:50:47 Reply

At 2/7/13 08:47 PM, 372 wrote:
At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.
He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

I'm saying it's a good reason, not that it justifies it. The cops are killing innocents too because they suspected they may have been him.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 20:59:36 Reply

Also, it's actually worth reading his manifesto. The media barely scratches the surface. He's pissed off because honest cops are exiled, because the LAPD is just as bad as the gangs, and because nothing will ever be done about it. The corrupt department framed him and ruined his life because he wanted to stand up for what is right.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:13:03 Reply

I hope Michael Bay ends up directing the film based on this.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:20:17 Reply

Also, it's actually worth reading his manifesto. The media barely scratches the surface. He's pissed off because honest cops are exiled, because the LAPD is just as bad as the gangs, and because nothing will ever be done about it. The corrupt department framed him and ruined his life because he wanted to stand up for what is right.

That's what happened in his mind, anyway.

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:29:12 Reply

At 2/7/13 08:47 PM, 372 wrote:
At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.
He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

He killed them because they were the family of someone who testified against him or something. His reasoning was that he got fired because of that person which ended his life, so he ended theirs. Not a good one, but yeah.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:32:27 Reply

Been hearing about this shit all day, its all on the news and the police are patrollin hard everywhere i go.

Sheesh hurry up and get dude


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:38:05 Reply

At 2/7/13 09:29 PM, Zachary wrote:
At 2/7/13 08:47 PM, 372 wrote:
At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.
He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!
He killed them because they were the family of someone who testified against him or something. His reasoning was that he got fired because of that person which ended his life, so he ended theirs. Not a good one, but yeah.

Yeah he killer her boyfriend too so I don't think he had anything to do with it. But as a police officer you'd think he'd realize that by murdering innocent people he becomes what he claims to despise? I just don't get why someone whos so "disgusted" with the actions of corrupt cops would murder people in retaliation...

Also his uh, manifesto is pretty odd.
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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:44:30 Reply

So he wants to end corruption in LAPD by killing people?

What a hypocrite...


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:47:25 Reply

I can't believe you're giving this guy any consideration because you've read his completely one-sided manifesto.

The guy could be fucking crazy, for all you know.

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 21:57:13 Reply

At 2/7/13 09:47 PM, Darthdenim wrote: I can't believe you're giving this guy any consideration because you've read his completely one-sided manifesto.

The guy could be fucking crazy, for all you know.

Well of course he's crazy, he doesn't deny it. Neither side is in the right, him and the LAPD are gunning down civilians. The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities. In Chicago, there was a huge scandal because the police department was literally capturing and torturing people. He doesn't care if what he's doing is right, he wants vengeance. He wants to destroy the police department that burned him and everyone they love.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:01:48 Reply

At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.

Can you enlighten us with sources please?


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:19:34 Reply

At 2/7/13 10:01 PM, TNT wrote:
At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.
Can you enlighten us with sources please?

Gladly
http://m.gawker.com/5982476/lapd-shooting-innocents-in-incom petent-manhunt-for-killer-cop
http://chicagotorture.org/history/
http://gothamist.com/2012/10/16/guilty_cop_calls_nypd_most_c orrupt.php


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:22:36 Reply

At 2/7/13 10:19 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:
At 2/7/13 10:01 PM, TNT wrote:
At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.
Can you enlighten us with sources please?
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http://m.gawker.com/5982476/lapd-shooting-innocents-in-incom petent-manhunt-for-killer-cop

That sounds more like simple stupidity than some kind of corruption.

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:26:04 Reply

At 2/7/13 10:22 PM, Darthdenim wrote:
At 2/7/13 10:19 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:
At 2/7/13 10:01 PM, TNT wrote:
At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.
Can you enlighten us with sources please?
Gladly
http://m.gawker.com/5982476/lapd-shooting-innocents-in-incom petent-manhunt-for-killer-cop
That sounds more like simple stupidity than some kind of corruption.

The cops shot Asian people in a completely different type of car than the suspect, after they already drove PAST the house. They don't care about spilling innocent blood. There's no excuse for trigger-happy cops firing at random cars.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:36:35 Reply

Just goes to show what kind of people they let in the LAPD.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:50:05 Reply

At 2/7/13 10:19 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:
Gladly
http://gothamist.com/2012/10/16/guilty_cop_calls_nypd_most_c orrupt.php

It sounds more like Officer Kacamakovic is the corrupted one.

Kacamakovic, you may recall, was accused by the FBI of a lot of questionable activity, including pepper-spraying two patrons outside his cousin's bar in 2008 while screaming, "No one f***s with my cousinâEUTMs place!" He was in uniform and on duty at the time. After one of the patrons pressed charges, Kacamakovic allegedly used the NYPDâEUTMs computer system to search a federal database about the assault victim.

One officer does not make the whole police department corrupt. It's like saying a whole classroom is full of cheaters because one student cheated on a test.

http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2012/nypd-officer-
pleads-guilty-to-criminal-civil-rights-violation?utm_campaig n=email-Immediate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=new-york-press -releases&utm_content=146148

He probably said that "NYPD is corrupt" for a variety of reasons, but just saying it alone does not mean its true.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 22:59:56 Reply

I read a lot of his manifesto and he seems like a nice and reasonable guy, even accounting for the fact that he is biased for himself. He just doesnt really have anything left to live for so he figured he might as well take the corrupt police who ruined his life with him. I dont agree with shooting random police though.

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:03:22 Reply

Obviously he was corrupt, what do you expect when he's working with cops where corruption is the norm? If you refuse to believe that widespread police corruption in cities isn't real, you're entitled to that belief, but the sad truth is greed and hatred is a part of our human nature. I just linked one article about NYC, I could easily find more. Chicago, NYC, and LA are all notorious for corruption, just ask anyone who's dealt with cops in one of these cities. Even if you could deny NYPD was corrupt, you can't deny CPD and LAPD are completely corrupt. Nothing will be done because the police cover their own asses. Police brutality is punished with a slap on the wrist. I'm not saying all police are corrupt, but the force in these cities specifically is undeniably corrupt.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:06:18 Reply

Yeah, I've heard of him. He got dismissed from the force for reporting a violation with his superiors. And he resorted to killing after the courts and the rest of his department shunned him...tsk tsk.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:24:44 Reply

"Only cops and the military should have guns! They can't do anything bad! think of the chirruns!"
-Liberals

Hahahahaha I wanna hear from them now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-
anderson-cooper_n_2641217.html

âEUZ"The package arrived on the first of February and was opened by Cooper's assistant," Blitzer reported. It contained: a hand-labeled DVD with a yellow Post-It note that read, "I never lied," which Blitzer said appeared to be referring to Dorner's 2008 dismissal; a coin wrapped in duct tape, which was inscribed with "Thanks but no thanks, Will Bratton" - the former chief of the Los Angeles police department - and "IMOA" (which commonly stands for "Imagine a More Open America"). The coin, which Blitzer reported is given by as an LAPD souvenir, was shot through with bullet holes
He didn't write IMOA! He wrote 1 MOA, as in 1 minute of angle meaning he had the ability to shoot a 1" spread at 100 yards. Sure explains the small coin having bullet holes in it. CNN doesn't even bother looking shit up, they just want to shove words in people's mouths and misinform the public. I'm going to my angry dome.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:26:23 Reply

Heard about this today.

Gosh....Aurora, Newtown, College...When will it end?

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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:33:11 Reply

At 2/7/13 11:03 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Obviously he was corrupt, what do you expect when he's working with cops where corruption is the norm? If you refuse to believe that widespread police corruption in cities isn't real, you're entitled to that belief, but the sad truth is greed and hatred is a part of our human nature.

I want to clarify something; I didn't say that police corruption isn't real. I know cases where corruption did happen.

Now that we got that out of the way, how can you be so sure that his actions are caused by NYPD influence or policies? That one source you pointed out didn't state why NYPD is corrupted other than the officer's quotes.

Also, greed and hatred can come from outside sources not associated with NYPD, or from any police department for that matter. He could have been raised by abusive parents, been bullied frequently in school, and the list goes on.

I just linked one article about NYC, I could easily find more.

Please do, as one incident will not convince me otherwise.

Chicago, NYC, and LA are all notorious for corruption, just ask anyone who's dealt with cops in one of these cities. Even if you could deny NYPD was corrupt, you can't deny CPD and LAPD are completely corrupt.

I haven't looked much into Chicago, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Regarding LAPD however, Los Angeles can be a very violent city. The police there are probably much more strict compared to other police departments due to this. Unfortunately, some people who are law abiding citizens will not sit well with their procedures and will think negatively of them.

Does LAPD have a history of corruption? Absolutely. But with recent changes after the LA Riots of 1992, they are at least trying to head in the right direction.

Nothing will be done because the police cover their own asses. Police brutality is punished with a slap on the wrist. I'm not saying all police are corrupt, but the force in these cities specifically is undeniably corrupt.

We can agree that not all police are corrupt. However, crooked cops more than likely got away with only a slap on the wrist is due to lack of physical evidence, or an awful jury.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:40:40 Reply

Shit, this is fucking crazy. It's like something out of a movie.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:42:04 Reply

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/06/cops-faced-reta liation-for-reporting-corruption.html
Here's a report of the exact same kind of cover-ups in NYC. Granted, the state is finally taking it seriously and taking action, which is a step in the right direction. That's more than can be said about Chicago or LA. Again, I'm not saying all cops are corrupt, but in the largest cities corruption is very widespread and is a largely ignored issue.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:51:14 Reply

At 2/7/13 11:45 PM, Trillionaire wrote: TNT has neglected to mention that he has not read the Dorner Manifesto. Though, it's obvious that he hasn't.

I've read part of it, but not the whole thing. I was talking about police corruption in general, and I did mention that LAPD had a history of corruption.


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Response to Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA 2013-02-07 23:56:37 Reply

After reading his last words, I... can't help but feel sorry for the guy. He meant well, and seemed like a good dude at heart. And yeah, the LAPD always has been notoriously corrupt. I mean, I don't think he should've gone on a rampage like this but his intentions were well.