Ex-cop goes on rampage in LA

[Stretchysumo]

Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.

[Armissea]

Shit reminds me of the movie gangster squad in theatres now

[Gimmick]

that was a long read

[372]

At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.

He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

[Stretchysumo]

At 2/7/13 08:47 PM, 372 wrote:

At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.

He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

I'm saying it's a good reason, not that it justifies it. The cops are killing innocents too because they suspected they may have been him.

[Stretchysumo]

Also, it's actually worth reading his manifesto. The media barely scratches the surface. He's pissed off because honest cops are exiled, because the LAPD is just as bad as the gangs, and because nothing will ever be done about it. The corrupt department framed him and ruined his life because he wanted to stand up for what is right.

[Lost-Chances]

I hope Michael Bay ends up directing the film based on this.

[Darthdenim]

Also, it's actually worth reading his manifesto. The media barely scratches the surface. He's pissed off because honest cops are exiled, because the LAPD is just as bad as the gangs, and because nothing will ever be done about it. The corrupt department framed him and ruined his life because he wanted to stand up for what is right.

That's what happened in his mind, anyway.

[Zachary]

At 2/7/13 08:47 PM, 372 wrote:

At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.

He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

He killed them because they were the family of someone who testified against him or something. His reasoning was that he got fired because of that person which ended his life, so he ended theirs. Not a good one, but yeah.

[Swag-in-a-Bag]

Been hearing about this shit all day, its all on the news and the police are patrollin hard everywhere i go.

Sheesh hurry up and get dude

[372]

At 2/7/13 09:29 PM, Zachary wrote:

At 2/7/13 08:47 PM, 372 wrote:

At 2/7/13 08:38 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Here's his manifesto.
CNN article
This guy is probably the first shooter who actually has a good reason for going on a rampage.

He's mad about corrupt cops... so he kills someone's innocent daughter...
And this started because his coworker wrongly kicked a man?
Wow what a great reason to murder people!

He killed them because they were the family of someone who testified against him or something. His reasoning was that he got fired because of that person which ended his life, so he ended theirs. Not a good one, but yeah.

Yeah he killer her boyfriend too so I don't think he had anything to do with it. But as a police officer you'd think he'd realize that by murdering innocent people he becomes what he claims to despise? I just don't get why someone whos so "disgusted" with the actions of corrupt cops would murder people in retaliation...

Also his uh, manifesto is pretty odd.

[TNT]

So he wants to end corruption in LAPD by killing people?

What a hypocrite...

[Darthdenim]

I can't believe you're giving this guy any consideration because you've read his completely one-sided manifesto.

The guy could be fucking crazy, for all you know.

[Stretchysumo]

At 2/7/13 09:47 PM, Darthdenim wrote: I can't believe you're giving this guy any consideration because you've read his completely one-sided manifesto.

The guy could be fucking crazy, for all you know.

Well of course he's crazy, he doesn't deny it. Neither side is in the right, him and the LAPD are gunning down civilians. The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities. In Chicago, there was a huge scandal because the police department was literally capturing and torturing people. He doesn't care if what he's doing is right, he wants vengeance. He wants to destroy the police department that burned him and everyone they love.

[TNT]

At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.

Can you enlighten us with sources please?

[Stretchysumo]

At 2/7/13 10:01 PM, TNT wrote:

At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.

Can you enlighten us with sources please?

Gladly
http://m.gawker.com/5982476/lapd-shooting-innocents-in-incom petent-manhunt-for-killer-cop
http://chicagotorture.org/history/
http://gothamist.com/2012/10/16/guilty_cop_calls_nypd_most_c orrupt.php

[Darthdenim]

At 2/7/13 10:19 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:

At 2/7/13 10:01 PM, TNT wrote:

At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.

Can you enlighten us with sources please?

Gladly
http://m.gawker.com/5982476/lapd-shooting-innocents-in-incom petent-manhunt-for-killer-cop

That sounds more like simple stupidity than some kind of corruption.

[Stretchysumo]

At 2/7/13 10:22 PM, Darthdenim wrote:

At 2/7/13 10:19 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:

At 2/7/13 10:01 PM, TNT wrote:

At 2/7/13 09:57 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: The LAPD is corrupt, so is the police department in most major cities.

Can you enlighten us with sources please?

Gladly
http://m.gawker.com/5982476/lapd-shooting-innocents-in-incom petent-manhunt-for-killer-cop

That sounds more like simple stupidity than some kind of corruption.

The cops shot Asian people in a completely different type of car than the suspect, after they already drove PAST the house. They don't care about spilling innocent blood. There's no excuse for trigger-happy cops firing at random cars.

[steph2568]

Just goes to show what kind of people they let in the LAPD.

[TNT]

At 2/7/13 10:19 PM, Stretchysumo wrote:

Gladly

http://gothamist.com/2012/10/16/guilty_cop_calls_nypd_most_c orrupt.php

It sounds more like Officer Kacamakovic is the corrupted one.

Kacamakovic, you may recall, was accused by the FBI of a lot of questionable activity, including pepper-spraying two patrons outside his cousin's bar in 2008 while screaming, "No one f***s with my cousinâEUTMs place!" He was in uniform and on duty at the time. After one of the patrons pressed charges, Kacamakovic allegedly used the NYPDâEUTMs computer system to search a federal database about the assault victim.

One officer does not make the whole police department corrupt. It's like saying a whole classroom is full of cheaters because one student cheated on a test.

http://www.fbi.gov/newyork/press-releases/2012/nypd-officer-
pleads-guilty-to-criminal-civil-rights-violation?utm_campaig n=email-Immediate&utm_medium=email&utm_source=new-york-press -releases&utm_content=146148

He probably said that "NYPD is corrupt" for a variety of reasons, but just saying it alone does not mean its true.

[BumFodder]

I read a lot of his manifesto and he seems like a nice and reasonable guy, even accounting for the fact that he is biased for himself. He just doesnt really have anything left to live for so he figured he might as well take the corrupt police who ruined his life with him. I dont agree with shooting random police though.

[Stretchysumo]

Obviously he was corrupt, what do you expect when he's working with cops where corruption is the norm? If you refuse to believe that widespread police corruption in cities isn't real, you're entitled to that belief, but the sad truth is greed and hatred is a part of our human nature. I just linked one article about NYC, I could easily find more. Chicago, NYC, and LA are all notorious for corruption, just ask anyone who's dealt with cops in one of these cities. Even if you could deny NYPD was corrupt, you can't deny CPD and LAPD are completely corrupt. Nothing will be done because the police cover their own asses. Police brutality is punished with a slap on the wrist. I'm not saying all police are corrupt, but the force in these cities specifically is undeniably corrupt.

[TracyJacksonTAW]

Yeah, I've heard of him. He got dismissed from the force for reporting a violation with his superiors. And he resorted to killing after the courts and the rest of his department shunned him...tsk tsk.

[Trillionaire]

Most of you don't know what you're talking about. That's forgivable; you don't have the facts.

LAPD is notorious for acting as LA's biggest gang. There have been thousands of criminal officers ousted from the force, and many more undocumented cases of police brutalizing innocent citizens for sport.

It's not isolated to one or two Google-front pages articles. This man told the truth about a corrupt officer and was reprimanded by a corrupt hierarchy.

[LocoJoe]

"Only cops and the military should have guns! They can't do anything bad! think of the chirruns!"
-Liberals

Hahahahaha I wanna hear from them now.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/07/christopher-dorner-
anderson-cooper_n_2641217.html
âEUZ"The package arrived on the first of February and was opened by Cooper's assistant," Blitzer reported. It contained: a hand-labeled DVD with a yellow Post-It note that read, "I never lied," which Blitzer said appeared to be referring to Dorner's 2008 dismissal; a coin wrapped in duct tape, which was inscribed with "Thanks but no thanks, Will Bratton" - the former chief of the Los Angeles police department - and "IMOA" (which commonly stands for "Imagine a More Open America"). The coin, which Blitzer reported is given by as an LAPD souvenir, was shot through with bullet holes
He didn't write IMOA! He wrote 1 MOA, as in 1 minute of angle meaning he had the ability to shoot a 1" spread at 100 yards. Sure explains the small coin having bullet holes in it. CNN doesn't even bother looking shit up, they just want to shove words in people's mouths and misinform the public. I'm going to my angry dome.

[T3XT]

Heard about this today.

Gosh....Aurora, Newtown, College...When will it end?

[TNT]

At 2/7/13 11:03 PM, Stretchysumo wrote: Obviously he was corrupt, what do you expect when he's working with cops where corruption is the norm? If you refuse to believe that widespread police corruption in cities isn't real, you're entitled to that belief, but the sad truth is greed and hatred is a part of our human nature.

I want to clarify something; I didn't say that police corruption isn't real. I know cases where corruption did happen.

Now that we got that out of the way, how can you be so sure that his actions are caused by NYPD influence or policies? That one source you pointed out didn't state why NYPD is corrupted other than the officer's quotes.

Also, greed and hatred can come from outside sources not associated with NYPD, or from any police department for that matter. He could have been raised by abusive parents, been bullied frequently in school, and the list goes on.

I just linked one article about NYC, I could easily find more.

Please do, as one incident will not convince me otherwise.

Chicago, NYC, and LA are all notorious for corruption, just ask anyone who's dealt with cops in one of these cities. Even if you could deny NYPD was corrupt, you can't deny CPD and LAPD are completely corrupt.

I haven't looked much into Chicago, so I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Regarding LAPD however, Los Angeles can be a very violent city. The police there are probably much more strict compared to other police departments due to this. Unfortunately, some people who are law abiding citizens will not sit well with their procedures and will think negatively of them.

Does LAPD have a history of corruption? Absolutely. But with recent changes after the LA Riots of 1992, they are at least trying to head in the right direction.

Nothing will be done because the police cover their own asses. Police brutality is punished with a slap on the wrist. I'm not saying all police are corrupt, but the force in these cities specifically is undeniably corrupt.

We can agree that not all police are corrupt. However, crooked cops more than likely got away with only a slap on the wrist is due to lack of physical evidence, or an awful jury.

[homor]

Shit, this is fucking crazy. It's like something out of a movie.

[Stretchysumo]

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2012/06/cops-faced-reta liation-for-reporting-corruption.html
Here's a report of the exact same kind of cover-ups in NYC. Granted, the state is finally taking it seriously and taking action, which is a step in the right direction. That's more than can be said about Chicago or LA. Again, I'm not saying all cops are corrupt, but in the largest cities corruption is very widespread and is a largely ignored issue.

[Trillionaire]

TNT has neglected to mention that he has not read the Dorner Manifesto. Though, it's obvious that he hasn't.