At 2/8/13 09:15 PM, leanlifter1 wrote:
Tone it down with the Fascist/Nationalist rhetoric as you would not make it in the battlegrounds or the Military you would die hating it and you would death for choosing to destroy people as a career. Grow up and have some compassion as it could be your country next and then you will be the victim how would you like that ?
So wanting what is essentially a robot do the job of a flesh and blood, thousands of feet above the sky, and minimize casualties of our soldiers is fascist?
Look I hate this whole idea that the US is some how an aggressor in these conflicts.
We have 3000 innocent lives killed in one day by a terrorist organization, what should we do, sit back and expect the governments of the countries to hand them over to us, so they can be tried in a due process?
Afghanistan was justified, the Taliban (a ruthless organization mind you, to even try to defend them, you must simply lack any morals, or sense) was a gang of thugs, albeit a large one, who terrorized the country and held their people by a leash.
They were not the recognized government of Afghanistan, that belonged to the Northern Alliance under Massoud, though I'm sure you lack any real knowledge about the subject.
And if some one even begins to feel sympathetic to such vile and despicable men that are willing to fight against their own people, and that that life is more valuable than the life of a true American, one willing to give his or her life to his country (which is an honorable thing, but according to you it's somehow cowardly and facist, some balls you got there behind your screen) then there's a clear disconnect between you and most sensible people.
So before you say another stupid thing, explain to me what right or moral ground you stand on that you can say what you say?
Should we let 3000 people die for nothing? But we've killed millions for over seas in the Middle East, 63% of the deaths were caused not by Coalition forces, but by terrorist activity and other related problems. So we've killed around 20 (out of 110) thousand during the Iraq war, 8 of those being during the invasion phase. At a time were Iraq, in it's entirety, is an enemy, that's called total war.
And in Afghanistan it's around 69% of the deaths were caused by anti-government forces.
Compared to a more 'just' war as ww2 when we invaded Germany we caused upwards of a hundred thousand deaths.
So to say we've simply been slaughtering innocents left and right as if we're the reincarnation of the Mongols is wrong, most of these deaths occurs when we drop a bomb on a terrorist's home who has 10-12 members of his family with him.
Look there's a level of responsibility on the family members, now I'm not condemning the children as they'd be to young to understand, and it's an unfortunate reality when they die, but is no blame to be placed on the parents?
They should realize the dangers whether or not they're for or against the United States isn't the question. Any man, especially one against the US can't be so ignorant that he thinks he won't be found in such a populous area as a city, village or town.
To stay around his family, he's only endangering them, and the smart sensible thing to do is to abandon them to fight the US on your own in the mountains somewhere, but instead he put's his family's life at risk.
Are we responsible for the family, as a military at war the enemy is our prime concern, we are to kill him at all costs, if he keeps his family with him, the blood on his hands.
But these are irrational people we are dealing with, who endanger their own people and children's lives for some belief in 'paradise' through bloodshed.