At 1/31/13 08:47 AM, AcetheSuperVillain wrote:
So here's what I don't get. Everytime the conservatives want to talk about homosexuals or morality decline, their argument goes strait to the Bible. So where is the Word of God in the argument about gun control? Why do we not hear "beat your swords into plowshares"? "He who lives by the sword, dies by the sword"? "Turn the other cheek"? "Though shalt not kill"?
Now, I'm not Christian anymore, but I still believe in religion, and I can't accept people who use obscure quotes from their religious texts to stomp on human rights one second (homosex) and then completely ignore the most important and repeated tenants of their faith when it applies to themselves (guns). You can't just take the parts you like and ignore the rest. (there's probably a Bible quote about that too)
You don't understand the difference between people who cherry pick lines from the bible and people who are Christian? There is a big difference, one has an agenda and one has a religion.
Exodus 22:2-3 "If the thief is found breaking in, and he is struck so that he dies, there shall be no guilt for his bloodshed. If the sun has risen on him, there shall be guilt for his bloodshed. He should make full restitution; if he has nothing, then he shall be sold for his theft."
"When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own palace, his goods are safe"
âEUoeBut now let the one who has a moneybag take it, and likewise a knapsack. And let the one who has no sword sell his cloak and buy one.
Of David. Blessed be the Lord, my rock, who trains my hands for war, and my fingers for battle
1 Samuel 13:19-20
Now there was no blacksmith to be found throughout all the land of Israel, for the Philistines said, âEUoeLest the Hebrews make themselves swords or spears.âEU But every one of the Israelites went down to the Philistines to sharpen his plowshare, his mattock, his axe, or his sickle
But no one can enter a strong man's house and plunder his goods, unless he first binds the strong man. Then indeed he may plunder his house.
I think those are some right?
Anyway turn the other cheek doesn't mean to put yourself in the position of danger, it is telling people not to exact vengeance upon people.
"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord."
Christianity isn't about pacifism.
Murder =/= Killing
It is more about translation and then looking at the actual text.
Anyway, no need to use the bible at all, because we have laws in our country. And we have rights, rights that the government according to these laws shall not infringe upon.