At 1/29/13 07:47 PM, theJRob wrote:
http://m.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-embraces-pr inciples-of-senate-immigration-reform-plan/2013/01/28/a539c4 4a-6974-11e2-ada3-d86a4806d5ee_story.html
So, long story short - eight senators (four Republicans and four Democrats) come together to discuss and draft up a basis for a moderate approach on immigration reform that satisfies the demands of both sides of the issue. Personally, coming from my center-right view of things, the goals set forth in this plan sound hard to disagree with - I completely support this plan...
This is a good thing. Bipartisan consensus usually leads to good policy.
but guess who has already stuck his dick in a perfectly fine bipartisan agreement
Any of these guys?
Rep. Lamar Smith
Sen. Jeff Sessions
Sen. David Vitter
Sen. Mike Lee
and is trying to take control of and put his name on it - trying to skip past securing the border and go straight for immediate amnesty of illegal immigrants. Yup, Obama.
Oh, I see, so the fact that the President has been pushing immigration reform for the last 4 years means nothing. Now that we have bipartisan consensus, it is suddenly a victory for Republicans, even while members of the Republican caucus in the House and Senate are still opposing it?
As far as "trying to skip past securing the border," see the attached image at the bottom of this post. What is the first major point listed? And what office is sponsoring the message presented on the image? Now, tell me, how is Obama trying to skip past securing the border? More importantly, why can't we do both at once?
Moreover, while specific statutory details on both the Obama plan and Senate plan are unclear at this point, both plans include the idea of a pathway to citizenship. In his speech in Vegas, Obama mentioned passing a background check paying taxes, paying a penalty, learning english and then waiting in line for a green card as part of the pathway to citizenship, so the idea that Obama wants immediate amnesty is bullshit.
And then on the other hand you have people like Krauthammer who claim (seriously dude, you're not really being helpful here)
Has he ever been?
that granting citizenship would cost more than what it's worth in benefits. I personally feel that securing the border and working on giving citizenship status to the immigrants should be carried out somewhat simultaneously.
So, is it worth whatever economic implications it may or may not bring? Does the plan delay granting citizenship more than it should? Discuss.
One of the biggest economic implications is trying to bring foreign entrepreneurs to America to create jobs here. Unfortunately, I don't know of any studies that look at the economic impact of a plan similar to the Presidents, but I do know that many of the immigrants I know (and I know a few) are very interested in making their own way, rather than having it paved for them. In many cases, there are a lot fewer procedural hurdles to jump here in the US than in Mexico, not to mention the US economic system is substantially better suited for investments than some of our neighbors.
And I think the delay Obama proposes make sense. Secure the border, and while we are doing that, let's focus on what to do with the illegal immigrants already here. We have the DHS / INS for a reason, it's time to use it. The Republican idea of secure the border first, then we can do this other stuff strikes me as the same kind of brinksmanship they played over the debt ceiling (a la 2011) and fiscal cliff. In other words, they want their way first, and if nothing else gets accomplished, oh well.