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At 1/25/13 12:42 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 1/25/13 12:38 AM, Sekhem wrote: if superman can't even kill lex luthor (who has no metahuman abilities), how would he beat goku?

Lex luthor keeps a big wad of kryptonite with him wherever he goes.

Sekhem, you've got serious DBZ fans telling you that superman would win. Superman has resisted a supernova, a blast of energy that can only be compared to the creation of the universe itself. Superman has held a black hole. Superman can lift the equivilant of hundreds of earths.

Goku would fucking die.

yeah and he come make a house with only a Bimby! it's like i tell you, Superman it's a super hero made from a kid. HE CAN DO EVERYTHING... SO INTERESTING... NO LIMITS... as i said before... DULL!

At 1/25/13 12:50 AM, Sekhem wrote:

At 1/25/13 12:42 AM, Xenomit wrote: Sekhem, you've got serious DBZ fans telling you that superman would win. Superman has resisted a supernova, a blast of energy that can only be compared to the creation of the universe itself. Superman has held a black hole. Superman can lift the equivilant of hundreds of earths.

Goku would fucking die.

goku has resisted a supernova too (see return of cooler), goku has no reason to go near black holes, and goku can lift several hundred planets too (see literally any of the last episodes of dbz)

superman has died at the hands of doomsday who exploited no traditional superman weakness

goku could instant transmission superman to a place where his powers are void and superman is done

easy

ahhhh the funny thing happened on the death battle animation. superman was getting weak because of the kryptonite on the floor, then son goku destroyed it.

thanks and have a wonderfull day!

At 1/23/13 11:46 PM, Master-X wrote: I think I killed on of those topics here once by saying that Captain Marvel could kick both their asses.

Shazam!

There's a facebook page dedicated to comic/film/cartoon debates, Supes and Goku was a big one, and (I hate to say this) Supes came out on top, purely due to the facts presented in the comics

I'd say it depends, the DC/DBZ universes are completely different, we know what attributes Supes has because the comics tell us, in DBZ there are very few 'facts' told about what they can actually do in terms of scale. The only way it can be honestly settled is if an official comic was released by Toriyama/DC, that would make for an interesting read

As a side note, I'm a DBZ fanboy, who still has his shirts from 10 years ago, although Goku can get fucked, Piccolo is where its at

At 1/25/13 12:56 AM, jack-be-nimble-69 wrote: As a side note, I'm a DBZ fanboy, who still has his shirts from 10 years ago, although Goku can get fucked, Piccolo is where its at

See sekhem? This is how you gracefully admit that someone you like would be beaten.

Now, I personally don't like either. Superman is a generic super hero, and Goku is a generic anime character. There's no problem with it, I just don't find either of them very interesting. However, superman would win pretty big time. You keep forgetting, Sekhem, that superman is indestructible. The only thing that can kill him is kryptonite. Goku isn't indestructible, and superman is quite a bit stronger than him as far as physical capability goes.

Legitimately, the best eppidsode of Dragonball Z. Seriously you can't refute this.

Why people try to compare characters from two different universes is beyond me. Both characters are hardly balanced in their own fucking realms yet you'd want them to be compared to one another? The rules and "power levels" of a character in one world shouldn't be compared to one in another because of the factors that exist on one that don't exist on the other.

For instance I could make up a character right now. His name is Zazo and he's a 6'5'' Demi-God that wields two Golden Sickles, his Father Razman, a god that controls the productivity of crops as well as one who instills righteousness, was part of a plot to rid him of his powers and dispose of him because the Council of Gods were wary of a prophecy that foretold Zazo rising against the Council and claiming himself God of gods and place everything under his tyranny. This prophecy was told by his mortal mother Myridia, who was a famous fortune teller who died giving birth to him.

Many other things happen but for the sake of this example let's say he rises regardless and kills all the gods, leaving him as supreme ruler of the universe with the ultimate strength and ultimate ability as well as invulnerability. Now would you want me to compare any other character against mine? No? Didn't think so. The rules are different and some characters are inherently stronger due to factors of their universe. There is no level playing ground in that case. Superman is akin to god like while Goku is still mortal and can be and has been killed many times. Comparing them is rather unfair. But then again, comparing fictional characters to one another is idiotic any ways...

At 1/25/13 01:04 AM, Sekhem wrote: doomsday did not use kryptonite to kill superman, fyi

And superman didn't actually die fyi

At 1/25/13 01:07 AM, HollowedPumkinz wrote:

:Superman is akin to god like while Goku is still mortal and can be and has been killed many times. Comparing them is rather unfair.

This is pretty much what we've been trying to establish. Made me facepalm when I thought about the simplicity of what needed to be said to get my point across.

Although I did mention that superman was pretty much a demigod

Oh also, fuck every other choice, Mr. Rodgers would destroy both of them.

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How can a man that has to continually push his limits to beat his foes against a man that has no limits?

At 1/25/13 01:19 AM, Parlux wrote: How can a man that has to continually push his limits to beat his foes against a man that has no limits?

"How can a man against a man"

At 1/25/13 01:01 AM, Xenomit wrote: superman is indestructible. The only thing that can kill him is kryptonite.

I don't know if it could actually kill him, but he's also technically weak against magic.
Though, I never actually heard that until Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.
Strong enough magic could PROBABLY kill him.

Not that Goku is a magician or anything, so that still doesn't matter.

At 1/25/13 01:22 AM, Sekhem wrote:

At 1/25/13 01:20 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 1/25/13 01:19 AM, Parlux wrote: How can a man that has to continually push his limits to beat his foes against a man that has no limits?

"How can a man against a man"

xenomit you haven't refuted anything i've said yet

get on it

We're talking about Xenomit here man, come on you know better than to hold expectations...

At 1/25/13 01:20 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 1/25/13 01:19 AM, Parlux wrote: How can a man that has to continually push his limits to beat his foes against a man that has no limits?

"How can a man against a man"

Yeah just coming into this thread I must say that I agree with whoever (can't remember who) said that comparing them is unfair.

They're from different worlds, and they both come out on top in their respective universes.

Also, why WOULD Superman want to fight Goku? They both fight for the safety of humanity, they both are aliens... Actually they have quite a bit in common, minus the fact that Goku's race is made up of a bunch of raging psychopaths.

At 1/25/13 01:23 AM, zag wrote: I don't know if it could actually kill him, but he's also technically weak against magic.

He's especially suseptable to magic and lead, I think a large enough amount of either could weaken him enough to put him out of any kind of a fight for a while, but so far the only thing that can actually kill him for sure is kryptonite.

Though, I never actually heard that until Mortal Kombat vs. DC Universe.
Strong enough magic could PROBABLY kill him.

Like I said, he's never really faced a whole bunch of magic, so there's no way to tell. But yeah, get enough of either magic or lead and it can do some bad shit to him.

Not that Goku is a magician or anything, so that still doesn't matter.

What exactly are spirit balls and kamehameha's? Are they bursts of pure energy or what?

At 1/25/13 01:22 AM, Sekhem wrote: xenomit you haven't refuted anything i've said yet

Because you're too butthurt to deal with. Calm down and stop using moot points that don't matter.

Super man has required revival once, Goku has required it twice. Happy now?

At 1/25/13 01:57 AM, Sekhem wrote: this is true, but goku can fight from death - superman can't

You wont learn will you

This is a fight to the death. Superman could somewhat easily kill Goku. And that would be it, the fight would be over, because Goku would be dead. Goku is a mortal, unlike Superman who is immortal.

At 1/25/13 02:01 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 1/25/13 01:57 AM, Sekhem wrote: this is true, but goku can fight from death - superman can't

unlike Superman who is immortal.

What the fuck are you talking about immortal superman my ass

my dad has the comic lol

At 1/25/13 02:04 AM, 372 wrote: What the fuck are you talking about immortal superman my ass

my dad has the comic lol

You realize that it's canonical that superman is millions of years old, right?

At 1/25/13 02:03 AM, Sekhem wrote: superman is not immortal

shit, even the omega effect can annihilate superman (no kryptonite, once again)

Full retard there. Immortal and Invincible are not the same thing. Read a dictionary.

goku is a mortal, but cannot really 'cease to exist'

Yes he can. He can be wiped clean from existence. It's a thing called death.

At 1/25/13 02:18 AM, Xenomit wrote:

At 1/25/13 02:04 AM, 372 wrote: What the fuck are you talking about immortal superman my ass

my dad has the comic lol

You realize that it's canonical that superman is millions of years old, right?

At 1/25/13 02:03 AM, Sekhem wrote: superman is not immortal

shit, even the omega effect can annihilate superman (no kryptonite, once again)

Full retard there. Immortal and Invincible are not the same thing. Read a dictionary.

goku is a mortal, but cannot really 'cease to exist'

Yes he can. He can be wiped clean from existence. It's a thing called death.

when goku dies he just ends up back here waiting for someone to bring him back to life....
when superman dies, he dies.

At 1/25/13 02:23 AM, 372 wrote: when goku dies he just ends up back here waiting for someone to bring him back to life....

Assuming that there always will be someone to bring him back to life. Since they're all mortal and such.

when superman dies, he dies.

Yes, that's why he was revived.

At 1/25/13 02:23 AM, Sekhem wrote: superman can be killed (and was), thus he is not immortal or invicible

I said look up those two words in a dictionary. You can die as an immortal.

death does not wipe goku from existence

it places him with king yemma

Where he can't fight superman. He's dead, the fight is over.