The Sun God.

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Okay guys so I've been thinking a lot about different religious views and origin of life.
It doesn't seem far fetched that the first Prokaryotes could be the product of a "perfect storm" like series of abiotic events. I mean after all in 1953 Stanley Miller was able to show us that electrical discharges are able to stimulate reactions that cause the creation of organic compounds. All signs point to the conclusion that life is able to occur naturally, granted their are mysteries to be solved. For example; the limitations of the electron microscope limit our understanding of how Chaperonin is able to fold amino acids into proteins, like chaperonin itself. But I'll leave that one for minds greater then my own. What I'm getting to is this, life can not be without energy. Now assuming the endosymbiotic theory is correct, which I do, all life on earth directly related to the first simple ass single-celled prokaryotic organism. Hell, seeing is believing! Mitochondria might as well be their own prokaryotic cells.

Okay so now that I'm done with the biology, go out side and look up. Assuming it's day you see some ethereal, other worldly bright light which is responsible for most the energy on earth. Assuming it's night, you see hundreds of similar entities much father away. This is the single most important ingredient to life.
What is this? The sun, a star? What the fuck is a star? Sure people will tell you their observations and measurements, but lets face it, no one has any fucking clue. A star is a massive awe-inspiring sphere of plasma at the center of out solar system which contains the potential to contain any element in the universe. It goes trough physical stages, can even turn into the most mysterious thing in the universe, something that evades our natural senses, a black hole. Hell, scientist even say they are most likely responsible for creating planets like earth!
So what I'm saying is, forget the huge cults, forget spirits, and just look up at the sky. A star holds more secrets to the creation of life then any book I can think of.

Bellow image is Messier 104 Galaxy photographed from NASAâEUTMs Hubble Space Telescope, courtesy of NASA/STScL/AURA

[XD0042006]

One time I shitted out a worm.

[Freaki-boy92]

the reason we don't know much about stars is because they're so danm hot.

we do know, however, that they are fueled by atoms undergoing nuclear fusion, a force way more powerful than nuclear fission (the atomic bomb). holy shit dude space is amazing.

the sun is the closest thing to a god there is known to be. without it we simply wouldn't exist.

[PrincessLuna]

"Science isn't just a body of knowledge, it's a way thinking." -Carl Sagan

[Viper]

For some reason this thread reminded me that I have this pic on my computer.

[Thecrazyman]

At 1/23/13 11:27 AM, PrincessLuna wrote: "Science isn't just a body of knowledge, it's a way thinking." -Carl Sagan

Even if it means lots and lots of crazy thinking, which oddly enough a number of things still remain unknown to human beings even to this day, but even then somethings in life are just best left untouched by the ones that just don't know how to handle such to begin with.

That said if there isn't knowledge that isn't power then there isn't sense that isn't responsibility, using power without responsibility means to whack things out of proportion not meant to be whacked out of proportion to begin with and using knowledge without sense can also do the same thing in it's wake.

Outer space has a lot of interesting things and this solar system isn't alone, there are others out there discovered by NASA and some of the most unusual planets that orbit about it's sun.

[KatMaestro]

I have a strange feeling that this thread may become another science vs religion turfwar. Just my 2 cents, because it's natural for religious zealots attract to science-lovers.

As for my contribution on the thread: I think we should worship blackholes. These thing are much more majestic than a star. They birth from a death of a start and they spawn life of stars, creating an endless loop that end the question of what's the beginning. Perhaps Hawkin's theory on the universe needs no creator is right, because blackholes are the largest evidence on this.

[kisame]

At 1/23/13 12:21 PM, spiderman006 wrote:

At 1/23/13 12:08 PM, Elitistinen wrote: natural for religious zealots attract to science-lovers.

Your a dumbshit, you know that?

If you're going insult someone's intelligence or lack thereof, make sure you've got a firm grasp of proper grammar.

[Jumbe]

I worship the god gan, who created the turtle which we all live on. Look it up.

[Darthdenim]

What a bunch of pretentious crap.

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At 1/23/13 01:36 PM, Darthdenim wrote: What a bunch of pretentious crap.

You can't be serious...

[KatMaestro]

At 1/23/13 12:28 PM, spiderman006 wrote:

Your a dumbshit, you know that?

So smart that you couldn't spell "you are".

I'll just leave this here for Darwin Cock Suckers

Weak arguments. Like I said, you attract to science-lovers like fire meets fuel.

[KatMaestro]

At 1/23/13 03:39 PM, spiderman006 wrote:
If you even watched the video, doubtful if you did, and you used your unbiased mind, you would realize Darwin did not have a microscope. He saw the birds and the bees, and thought 'natural selection.' With technology today, you can see how complex the cell is, it is mathematically improbable that the cell just made itself by chance.

Someone didn't know what is possibility. What's are the odds would take for living organism to be formed? Gigantic, but still it is possible. Ever heard of Abiogenesis? Bet you don't.

You can't disprove this. No one can. Durp.

[Trapex]

When I thought Sun God, I instantly thought...

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At 1/23/13 01:36 PM, Darthdenim wrote: What a bunch of pretentious crap.

this. you seriously have this entire thing summed up correctly

[manopoly12]

a black hole. Hell, scientist even say they are most likely responsible for creating planets like earth!
A more childish but fun way to put it ''the black hole shat earth into existence''.

[Ragnarokia]

If you want to worship anything, worship the sun and the moon. At least those things make a difference and are huge. Does more than any other petty religion's gods ever do.

Of course expecting you can gain the favour of the sun by sacrificing humans is just stupid and very arrogant, honestly thinking that your pathetic little sacrifice can somehow change the cosmic path of something as great as the sun is frankly pompousness.

Tbh I like sun god worshipers, as they tend to keep it to themselves these days, thus it makes them one of the greatest religions there are as they DON'T FORCE IT ON OTHERS, yea. People could learn a thing or two from such people.

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At 1/23/13 03:39 PM, spiderman006 wrote:

At 1/23/13 03:33 PM, Elitistinen wrote:

I'll just leave this here for Darwin Cock Suckers

Weak arguments. Like I said, you attract to science-lovers like fire meets fuel.

I just posted a video, I didn't post an argument, your weak attempt of trolling me is ineffective.

If you even watched the video, doubtful if you did, and you used your unbiased mind, you would realize Darwin did not have a microscope. He saw the birds and the bees, and thought 'natural selection.' With technology today, you can see how complex the cell is, it is mathematically improbable that the cell just made itself by chance.

I'm done arguing, this is not the bbs, so get fucked.

Hey man if you actually had any idea what was going on in that video you would realize that it actually all supports Darwin's theory of evolution. And yes I agree it is amazing Darwin was able to come up with such a thing without knowing all we know today.
This in a sum is known as the theory of modern synthesis.
The inner workings of a cell are magnificent yes, but more chain of chemical reactions then anything. The video you stated above is more of a "help students remember vocabulary words" video then anything. Cells themselves are transparent, how do you think any of that could actually appear like that inside a cell?
The endosymbiotic theory, as I stated above in hopes of avoiding this argument, explains to us how evolution happened at time where the only life was Archean, and it puts into perspective how something so simple could possibly evolve turn into something as complex as a human being.

it's all in my best selling novel right here

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At 1/23/13 07:18 PM, 372 wrote:

At 1/23/13 03:39 PM, spiderman006 wrote:

At 1/23/13 03:33 PM, Elitistinen wrote:

I'll just leave this here for Darwin Cock Suckers

Weak arguments. Like I said, you attract to science-lovers like fire meets fuel.

I just posted a video, I didn't post an argument, your weak attempt of trolling me is ineffective.

If you even watched the video, doubtful if you did, and you used your unbiased mind, you would realize Darwin did not have a microscope. He saw the birds and the bees, and thought 'natural selection.' With technology today, you can see how complex the cell is, it is mathematically improbable that the cell just made itself by chance.

I'm done arguing, this is not the bbs, so get fucked.

Also the frontier of modern biology is a lot of epigenetics and hell nasa found bits of un-earthly nucleobases on an asteroid!

[Sense-Offender]

At 1/23/13 04:45 PM, Trapex wrote: When I thought Sun God, I instantly thought...

ooooor...

[Sense-Offender]

At 1/23/13 11:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/23/13 04:45 PM, Trapex wrote: When I thought Sun God, I instantly thought...

ooooor...

oooooooooor.....

[supergandhi64]

At 1/23/13 11:27 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/23/13 11:21 PM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/23/13 04:45 PM, Trapex wrote: When I thought Sun God, I instantly thought...

ooooor...

oooooooooor.....

funny jokes... not! i'm pretty sure we all know what to think about sun worship, so don't bother making snarky, blasphemous remarks

--supergandhi64

[Sense-Offender]

At 1/24/13 12:20 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: funny jokes... not! i'm pretty sure we all know what to think about sun worship, so don't bother making snarky, blasphemous remarks

oooooooooooooooooooor!

[Sense-Offender]

At 1/24/13 01:25 AM, Sense-Offender wrote:

At 1/24/13 12:20 AM, supergandhi64 wrote: funny jokes... not! i'm pretty sure we all know what to think about sun worship, so don't bother making snarky, blasphemous remarks

oooooooooooooooooooor!

oooooooooooooooooooooooooor!

[Swag-in-a-Bag]

We're all stardust peeple

[science-is-fun]

There is nothing "spiritual" about science and there never will be.

[Sense-Offender]

ooooooooooorrrrrrrrrr

[AllahKAZAM]

Good talk but you assume that life couldnt have started in multiple seperate places.
Hell dude arsenic based life forms have already evolved so its asanine to believe all earths life came from one lucky cell.

[Chdonga]

At 1/23/13 11:27 AM, PrincessLuna wrote: "Science isn't just a body of knowledge, it's a way thinking." -Carl Sagan

"Billions and billions" -Carl Sagan

[Sense-Offender]

At 1/24/13 09:03 AM, Chdonga wrote:

At 1/23/13 11:27 AM, PrincessLuna wrote: "Science isn't just a body of knowledge, it's a way thinking." -Carl Sagan

"Billions and billions" -Carl Sagan

"aah...wooop!" -Carl Sagan