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This is pretty nerve wracking how these keep poping up like this. I used to go to that campus last semister x-x.

she got drunk as fuck and swallowed all my kidsizz

We should ban all news media. That way the shooters get no attention, and people will stop the shootings because "waaah no one notices me."

This logic is flawless, don't try to prove otherwise.

At 1/22/13 05:21 PM, TNT wrote: So you asked, "How many times has a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun?", the answer according to this survey could be over 700,000 times annually more or less.

That's still not good, because just think about that one percent you used all the way through there

one percent

Shame they can't promote the use of some non-lethal ammos or something. I think it could make protests/riots more interesting (maybe less one sided) and they could just clean up in schools and use rubber bullets and beanbags for crowd control.. and shotgun *punk kids with paintball guns, off the lawn without killin' them. XD

At 1/22/13 05:21 PM, TNT wrote:

At 1/22/13 04:04 PM, Travis wrote:

"How many times has a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun?" - Common Sense

In the early 90s, Dr. Kleck of Florida State University in Tallahassee conducted a nationwide survey about gun owners using their guns for defense. In this survey, 4,978 people answered questions via telephone in the lower 48 states. These questions in general, were if they have used their guns in defense, and if so, what crime was being committed by the suspect, and rather they were armed or unarmed.

The results indicated that about 1% of the gun owners used it for defense, which 47.2% of the suspects were armed (18.1% knife, 13.6% handgun, 10.1% blunt object, and less than 6% with some other weapon).

So, from this survey we can conclude that:

4,978 x 1% = 49.78, which rounds up to 50 people that used their gun for defense.
257,746,103 (est. US population in 1993) / 50 = 5.1 million estimated people that used their gun for defense.

Hold your horses.

This study shows that when you exclude people who used guns in a line of work (i.e. military, police officer) the number comes down to a mere 162,000 civilians who used their guns for self-defense each year. By contrast, 436,000 violent crimes per year are done with a gun.

Conclusion?

Guns belong in the hands of trusted authorities, not untrained rednecks who don't need them. When it comes to normal citizens... mo guns, mo problems.

At 1/22/13 07:21 PM, T3XT wrote: Guns belong in the hands of trusted authorities, not untrained rednecks who don't need them. When it comes to normal citizens... mo guns, mo problems.

Luckily, if we ask nicely, everyone, especially the criminals, will be more than happy to hand over their guns without any sort of problems, for the betterment of our society.

At 1/22/13 07:21 PM, T3XT wrote: Guns belong in the hands of trusted authorities, not untrained rednecks who don't need them. When it comes to normal citizens... mo guns, mo problems.

I wonder though.

I don't like guns, I REALLY don't like guns, but members of my family all have guns and have gone through some strict training just to get their gun license and guns legally. What of them, or people like them?

Oh gee, another shooting in a "gun free zone". I'm sooo shocked.

At 1/22/13 04:04 PM, Travis wrote: "How many times has a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun?" - Common Sense

Almost always, if the shit head doesn't blow his own brains out. You are aware of cops, right?

Also, most "good guys" don't get the chance, because they follow the law and don't bring their guns into gun free zones (where these shootings happen) because it's illegal.

At 1/22/13 07:21 PM, T3XT wrote: Guns belong in the hands of trusted authorities, not untrained rednecks who don't need them. When it comes to normal citizens... mo guns, mo problems.

This doesn't even make...like, any sense.

Now, how do YOU define who needs a gun. You're clearly someone who has no idea about guns, or at the very least, avoids them, so how can YOU, of all people, quantify who "needs" a gun. Are you also gonna be the judge of who "needs" a Ferrari, or a private plane, or a treehouse, or fatty foods? If not, who should be trusted to dictate what people need?

At 1/22/13 07:46 PM, LemonCrush wrote: If not, who should be trusted to dictate what people need?

p sure thats what we elect the pres for

At 1/22/13 07:47 PM, TurkeyBased wrote: p sure thats what we elect the pres for

Where is that in the powers granted to the President, by the Constitution?

No, actually, I don't expect you to answer that...you're probably 12. I can't imagine any adult thinking the purpose of the President is to decide what people have or need.

At 1/22/13 07:21 PM, T3XT wrote: Hold your horses.

This study shows that when you exclude people who used guns in a line of work (i.e. military, police officer) the number comes down to a mere 162,000 civilians who used their guns for self-defense each year. By contrast, 436,000 violent crimes per year are done with a gun.

Conclusion?

Guns belong in the hands of trusted authorities, not untrained rednecks who don't need them. When it comes to normal citizens... mo guns, mo problems.

* A 1994 survey conducted by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention found that Americans use guns to frighten away intruders who are breaking into their homes about 498,000 times per year.

The number you're referring to is actually using the gun, not just doing something like brandishing it or that oh so lovely sound of a round being chambered from a different room.

At 1/22/13 06:45 PM, Otto wrote:

At 1/22/13 05:21 PM, TNT wrote: So you asked, "How many times has a good guy with a gun stopped a bad guy with a gun?", the answer according to this survey could be over 700,000 times annually more or less.

That's still not good, because just think about that one percent you used all the way through there

one percent

Comparing it to the US population it may seem small, but 700,000 is still a lot of people.

Had they not have guns, that's just 700,000 more potential victims to count.

At 1/22/13 03:05 PM, All-American-Badass wrote: I'm watching the news right now and there's speculation that this may have been a gang related incident gone at the wrong place. I'm just glad that there's no one dead so far.

Same here, I hope they catch the second guy though. This is getting ridiculous, I wouldn't be surprised if a conspiracy theory pops up about this.